Since Obama is failing so horrifically, Will Hillary run against him?

[Neotrotsky]

She wants it bad,at this point in the past election,she was the one.
anything is possible ask Vince.

Oh she does

No doubt, if things keep going bad for Papa Obama
then he might drop Biden for her

But would she take it or go for it because she smells
blood in the water?

 

[The T]

She wants it bad,at this point in the past election,she was the one.
anything is possible ask Vince.

Oh she does

No doubt, if things keep going bad for Papa Obama
then he might drop Biden for her

But would she take it or go for it because she smells
blood in the water?

The Hildebeast was always one to gravitate toward political bloodshed. Lest her exploits when her galivanting piece of shit husband was embroiled in so much?

I personally think she's BORED with Secratary Of State Duties...and wants something more.

 

[Salt Jones]

a veteran is a gi bill usurper???man you are a absolute idiot,YOU TRULY ARE!!!my god if you can't differentiate between affirmative action and the gi bill it's proof that affirmative action was created for people with below average intelligence.

I knew I'd find a sucker to take the bait. What percentage of white WWII veterans used the original GI Bill to get a home loan or to pay for college? What percentage of black WWII veterans were ALLOWED by the government to use the GI Bill for home Loans or college. Didn't the GI Bill allow white veterans to improve their and their families lives? Weren't Jim Crow rules used to deny education benefits and better housing opportunities to blacks, even black veterans who were eligible for and had earned the right to use the GI Bill?

The GI Bill was Affirmative Action for white veterans, ask your parents or grandparents.

I worked for the US Postal Service bulk mail center in Atlanta, Ga for several years where there was 1 white guy for every 50 black guys. I knew of 4 black vets that signed up for college and got the GI Bill. 3 of them went for a few classes, dropped out, and kept getting their GI Bill check for at least 6 more months. That was about 30 years ago. I don't think you know what you are talking about.

"30 years ago" would make that 1981. Did world war 2 end in 1981? Did the generational wealth created by white WWII veterans using the GI Bill start in 1981? Was Jim Crow happening in 1981?

 

[HenryBHough]

I thought she confirmed that she wasn't going to run, like earlier in the year?

If I recall correctly, she said (verbally) that she wasn't going to run.

It's settled fact that when a Clinton's lips are moving said Clinton is lying.

Now were Hillary to have made the statement in writing and never spoke it then it would be fair to believe she might not run.

Only question left is whether she could beat Romney as handily as could Obama. That's based on Hillary and Romney being approximately equal on the political left/right spectrum and Obama a fair bit to the right of either.

Remember, Martha's Vineyard is in Massachusetts where we live under the prototype of Obamacare - "Romneycare".

 

[JakeStarkey]

She wants it bad,at this point in the past election,she was the one. anything is possible ask Vince.

Oh she does No doubt, if things keep going bad for Papa Obama then he might drop Biden for her But would she take it or go for it because she smells blood in the water?

NeoFascist now is an expert on the dems when he has already demonstrated an absolute lack of understanding of Republican Party politics.

Obama will not ask HRC to run as Veep, and she would not accept.

She will not challenge BHO for the nomination, and the events of the coming two weeks will demonstrate exactly why.

To beat Obama, the responsible Republicans will need to select Romney with Perry as Veep to hold the reactionaries, the wack right, and the far rights fascists like Neo in place.

Romney has a chance to beat Obama. No other Republican, except for an outside, far outside chance by Perry.

 

[Neotrotsky]

I thought she confirmed that she wasn't going to run, like earlier in the year?

If I recall correctly, she said (verbally) that she wasn't going to run.

It's settled fact that when a Clinton's lips are moving said Clinton is lying.

Now were Hillary to have made the statement in writing and never spoke it then it would be fair to believe she might not run.

Only question left is whether she could beat Romney as handily as could Obama. That's based on Hillary and Romney being approximately equal on the political left/right spectrum and Obama a fair bit to the right of either.

Remember, Martha's Vineyard is in Massachusetts where we live under the prototype of Obamacare - "Romneycare".

Romney offers little hope- Papa Obama could walk all over him
Which is why the MSM and RINO's and the Left push him

Remember how the press loved McCain, until he actually ran

 

[HenryBHough]

Romney defeat Obama?

Harrrrrr deeeee harrrrr harrrrr harrrrr!


That would require two things, only one of which is probable.


1. Conservatives vote third party or just stay home.

2. Democrats defect from Obama to vote in favour of the more Marxist Romney.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Romney defeat Obama?

Harrrrrr deeeee harrrrr harrrrr harrrrr!


That would require two things, only one of which is probable.


1. Conservatives vote third party or just stay home.

2. Democrats defect from Obama to vote in favour of the more Marxist Romney.

I hear you
but I feel Romey would lose for some other reasons

Side note:
Not supporting Romney will cause a "hissy fit" in some, well actually one,
of the posters here

 

[HenryBHough]

Romney has a chance to beat Obama. No other Republican, except for an outside, far outside chance by Perry.

This could be possible were Obama to announce he never smoked dope and thereby lost his true-believing base.

 

[Neotrotsky]

This could be possible were Obama to announce he never smoked dope and thereby lost his true-believing base.

Prepare for the "hissy fit"
It is pure comedy

 

[JakeStarkey]

Let's hope that makes a difference between Obama and Romney, though it won't, I believe.

 

[JoeB131]

[
To beat Obama, the responsible Republicans will need to select Romney with Perry as Veep to hold the reactionaries, the wack right, and the far rights fascists like Neo in place.

Romney has a chance to beat Obama. No other Republican, except for an outside, far outside chance by Perry.

Actually, I think that ANY republican would have an excellent chance of beating Obama if the economy stays like it is, and there is every indication that it will or may even get worse. He's got the numbers of a Bush-41 or Carter, not of a Reagan or Clinton.

I think that Romney would be a weaker candidate that Perry. Oh, I've heard this before, that we need a "moderate' who can appeal to "independents". I heard that crap with McCain. And Bob Dole. And Jerry Ford. Fact is, people aren't looking for moderation, they are looking for leadership.

First, if the establishment manages to foist Romney on the rank and file, they might vote for him, but they won't get out and try to get their neighbors to. They remember that he isn't pro-Choice, he's multiple choice. He's the guy who invented the "Beta Version" of ObamaCare. He's leading now because the conservative base is still flailing around looking for an alternative. Perry isn't in yet, Palin is non-committal, Bachmann has issues to resolve. When the herd gets weeded out, they will focus on a single candidate, and so long Romney- and Obama.

Secondly, a lot of evangelicals will never vote for a Mormon. Heck, I'm an agnostic, and I would never vote for a Mormon. The MSM isn't playing the Mormon angle right now, but if Romney gets the nomination, expect a whole bunch of hard hitting exposes on Magic Underwear, the Planet Kolob and all the other crazy stuff you have to believe to keep good with the LDS.

Third, the more people see of Romney, the less they like him. This was the case in 2008, and it will be the case this time. He's stiff and robotic, while Perry can work the crowd like a preacher during a revival. People want passion.

Fourth, the primary schedule kind of sucks for Romney. He could easily lose Iowa, (where he isn't even competing) and might lose NH if Guiliani provides people with an alternative. There will be no illegal Michigan Primary for him to do what he did in 2008.

Fifth, Romney got extra life in 2008 because the Right Wing Noise Machine of Limbaugh, et al, got behind him because they disliked McCain and were terrified Huckabee might separate the religious voters from the business ones. But even with that extra boost, he still came in third. In this case, Perry is a guy the Limbaughs of the world can enthusiastically get behind.

Sixth, Perry's got a much better record that Romney has. Three term governor vs. 1 term. Strong Job growth during a recession vs. tepid job growth during a boom period. Strongly advocating conservative positions vs. weakly going along with a democratic legislature.

2012 is a year to go with your gut, conservatives. Who appeals to your gut more, Perry or Romney?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Joe, the fun thing about being American is that you get voice your opinion politically.

Your analysis is dead wrong.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, the fun thing about being American is that you get voice your opinion politically.

Your analysis is dead wrong.

You are free to point out any premise I got wrong...

If the GOP establishment gets it way and foists the Android from Kolob on us, we can get another four years of Obama and all the socialism you can eat.

 

[CitizenPained]

No.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Joe, the fun thing about being American is that you get voice your opinion politically.

Your analysis is dead wrong.

You are free to point out any premise I got wrong...

If the GOP establishment gets it way and foists the Android from Kolob on us, we can get another four years of Obama and all the socialism you can eat.

Mitt can beat Obama, and if you are against Mitt because he is a Mormon, did you support Ronnie who supported Nancy's spiritualism and ouija and tarot and astrology.

Get a grip.

 

[HenryBHough]

Joe, the fun thing about being American is that you get voice your opinion politically.

So very true.

This week.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, the fun thing about being American is that you get voice your opinion politically.

Your analysis is dead wrong.

You are free to point out any premise I got wrong...

If the GOP establishment gets it way and foists the Android from Kolob on us, we can get another four years of Obama and all the socialism you can eat.

Mitt can beat Obama, and if you are against Mitt because he is a Mormon,
Get a grip.

Mitt Can't beat Obama, not only because of the Mormonism (22% of Americans say they would never vote for a Mormon) but for a whole lot of other reasons.

Gallup: 22% Say They Wouldn't Vote for a Mormon | The Weekly Standard

The results: 76 percent of Americans say they would vote for a well-qualified Mormon, while 22 percent say they would not. The bias is more pronounced among Democrats: 27 percent say they wouldn't vote for a Mormon, while 18 percent of Republicans and 19 percent of independents say the same.

So when 18% of your base says that they won't vote for a certain religion, and those are the guys who admit it openly. (You have to assume there were a lot who were thinking it but didn't say so because they didn't want the pollster to think they were "bigots".)

And again, the MSM will be pulling out all the stops to get Obama back in, which means that they will really highlight all the really bizarre LDS beliefs if Romney gets the nomination. (They'll lay back before the nomination, because they probably like Romney better than a real conservative.)

Of course, if you want to pretend Mormonism isn't a factor, I listed five other reasons why he'd be a weak contender. I'll put in another for the general election- he's a guy who got rich essentially putting other people out of jobs. Read about what he did at AmPad some time.

did you support Ronnie who supported Nancy's spiritualism and ouija and tarot and astrology.

1) These revalations about Nancy's odd beliefs didn't come out until AFTER he had been elected. (In fact, she got into them after the 1981 assassination attempt.)

2) Those were her beliefs, not his.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Don't awake the RINO Kraken !

 

[JoeB131]

Don't awake the RINO Kraken !

It's amazing how they can snatch defeat from the Jaws of Victory.

It's like they never learn. If your goal is to be liked by MSNBC, you aren't going to be liked by them once you get the nomination and you turn most of your own base off.

Here's a hint. Why aren't we seeing threads from our liberal friends on this board going after Romney the way they are going after Bachmann, Palin (who isn't even running) and Perry (who hasn't even declared yet.) You would think that if Romney were the threat Jake thinks he is, they'd be the ones going after him.