Simple poll on Palestine

[Epsilon Delta]

Simple poll on Palestine - Does Palestine have a "right to 'exist'"? Whatever that means.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Simple poll on Palestine - Does Palestine have a "right to 'exist'"? Whatever that means.

There is no such entity. Never has been, except as a function of British rule after World War I.

Do the people have a right to exist, sure do. However they do NOT have the right to murder Jews nor to demand a return to Israel. As for a country? Israel has tried repeatedly from 2000 on to create such a nation. And the response from the Arabs? More murder and terrorism.

The Israelis all agree those Arabs have a right to their own Country and to live in it peacefully. However that is NOT what they are doing. And as for the Arabs, they refuse to even acknowledge the right of the Jews to live in the Middle East, much less Israel.

Clean up your question so that it is clear what you are asking.

Ohh wait, I forgot, you are a Jew hater. Never mind.

 

[Epsilon Delta]

Hey fucker, guess what? Grandpa was a Jew and his whole family was murdered in the Holocaust. Why don't you go fuck yourself, asshole?

 

[elvis]

Simple poll on Palestine - Does Palestine have a "right to 'exist'"? Whatever that means.

That's like asking if the Jutland Peninsula has the right to exist. The gunny asked in his thread of the NATION of Israel had the right to exist.

 

[Epsilon Delta]

Simple poll on Palestine - Does Palestine have a "right to 'exist'"? Whatever that means.

That's like asking if the Jutland Peninsula has the right to exist. The gunny asked in his thread of the NATION of Israel had the right to exist.

Yeah, well, exactly. Does the NATION of Palestine has a right to exist? DOES the Jutland pensinsula, in fact, have a right to exist? It IS afterall, governed by a separate entity that does not claim possesion of the rest of Somalia. Did Slovakia or the Czech republic have "right" to exist in 1950? 1970? 1992? Or was it just in 1993 that they gained the "right" to exist? What constitutes this "right to exist" and who gives it?

The fact is there are a particular group of people who claim to be "Israelis", who claim to live in a place called "Israel." If this is the requirement for a "right to exist", if there IS, in FACT, a group that identifies itself as PALESTINIAN, who claim to live in a place they themselves call "PALESTINE", why does one hold less a right to exist than the other?

 

[DiveCon]

Simple poll on Palestine - Does Palestine have a "right to 'exist'"? Whatever that means.

That's like asking if the Jutland Peninsula has the right to exist. The gunny asked in his thread of the NATION of Israel had the right to exist.

Yeah, well, exactly. Does the NATION of Palestine has a right to exist? DOES the Jutland pensinsula, in fact, have a right to exist? It IS afterall, governed by a separate entity that does not claim possesion of the rest of Somalia. Did Slovakia or the Czech republic have "right" to exist in 1950? 1970? 1992? Or was it just in 1993 that they gained the "right" to exist? What constitutes this "right to exist" and who gives it?

The fact is there are a particular group of people who claim to be "Israelis", who claim to live in a place called "Israel." If this is the requirement for a "right to exist", if there IS, in FACT, a group that identifies itself as PALESTINIAN, who claim to live in a place they themselves call "PALESTINE", why does one hold less a right to exist than the other?

there IS no "nation of Palestine"

 

[Article 15]

The fact is there are a particular group of people who claim to be "Israelis", who claim to live in a place called "Israel." If this is the requirement for a "right to exist", if there IS, in FACT, a group that identifies itself as PALESTINIAN, who claim to live in a place they themselves call "PALESTINE", why does one hold less a right to exist than the other?

One has bigger guns and more powerful friends.

 

[Epsilon Delta]

there IS no "nation of Palestine"

Says who? Says YOU? You probably don't even know what "nation" means, dude. Once again, I'll have to educate you in elementary matters: According to the New Oxford American Dictionary:

A nation is a body of people who share a real or imagined common history, culture, language or ethnic origin, who typically inhabit a particular country or territory.

.

 

[Epsilon Delta]

The fact is there are a particular group of people who claim to be "Israelis", who claim to live in a place called "Israel." If this is the requirement for a "right to exist", if there IS, in FACT, a group that identifies itself as PALESTINIAN, who claim to live in a place they themselves call "PALESTINE", why does one hold less a right to exist than the other?

One has bigger guns and more powerful friends.

Yeah, well, can't argue against THAT.

 

[elvis]

Simple poll on Palestine - Does Palestine have a "right to 'exist'"? Whatever that means.

That's like asking if the Jutland Peninsula has the right to exist. The gunny asked in his thread of the NATION of Israel had the right to exist.

Yeah, well, exactly. Does the NATION of Palestine has a right to exist? DOES the Jutland pensinsula, in fact, have a right to exist? It IS afterall, governed by a separate entity that does not claim possesion of the rest of Somalia. Did Slovakia or the Czech republic have "right" to exist in 1950? 1970? 1992? Or was it just in 1993 that they gained the "right" to exist? What constitutes this "right to exist" and who gives it?

The fact is there are a particular group of people who claim to be "Israelis", who claim to live in a place called "Israel." If this is the requirement for a "right to exist", if there IS, in FACT, a group that identifies itself as PALESTINIAN, who claim to live in a place they themselves call "PALESTINE", why does one hold less a right to exist than the other?

The Jutland Peninsula is the part of Europe that is occupied by Denmark and to a smaller extent, Germany and has nothing to do with Somalia.
I can say that Czechoslovakia had the right to exist in all three of those years listed. She should have been free to set up her own government after World War II. I don't know the history of the two nations, so I don't know if they should have broken apart or not.
Speaking of World War II, should Austria have been forced to separate from Germany after the war was over?
Should Imperial Germany have been forced to give up the Danzig corridor after World War I?

 

[DiveCon]

there IS no "nation of Palestine"

Says who? Says YOU? You probably don't even know what "nation" means, dude. Once again, I'll have to educate you in elementary matters: According to the New Oxford American Dictionary:

A nation is a body of people who share a real or imagined common history, culture, language or ethnic origin, who typically inhabit a particular country or territory.

.

LOL
yeah
ok
so, what if a bunch of people decided to come take over your land, and call themselves deltafarians
does that mean Costa Rica no longer exists?
and its now Delta Rico
sorry, but the Jews and Israel pre-existed the arabs invading

 

[DiveCon]

and the real strange thing about this, there could have been a "palestine" since 1948, had they not rejected the deal offered
and funny how none of them called themselves "Palestinians" prior to about 1964

 

[elvis]

there IS no "nation of Palestine"

Says who? Says YOU? You probably don't even know what "nation" means, dude. Once again, I'll have to educate you in elementary matters: According to the New Oxford American Dictionary:

A nation is a body of people who share a real or imagined common history, culture, language or ethnic origin, who typically inhabit a particular country or territory.

.

So, using that definition, Hitler had every right annex Austria, the Sudatenland, and the areas of Poland which Germany gave up per the Treaty of Versailles. Why shouldn't all Germans live as one? You agree?

 

[elvis]

and the real starange thing about this, there could have been a "palestine" since 1948, had they not rejected the deal offered
and funny how none of them called themselves "Palestinians" prior to about 1964

so much of this is because Britain made a promise to the Jews AND a promise to the Arabs.

 

[DiveCon]

and the real starange thing about this, there could have been a "palestine" since 1948, had they not rejected the deal offered
and funny how none of them called themselves "Palestinians" prior to about 1964

so much of this is because Britain made a promise to the Jews AND a promise to the Arabs.

and prior to 1967 anyone born in the Gaza Strip was an Egyptian, anyone born in the west bank was Jordanian

how come Jordan and Egypt didnt create this "Palestine" nation?

 

[elvis]

and the real starange thing about this, there could have been a "palestine" since 1948, had they not rejected the deal offered
and funny how none of them called themselves "Palestinians" prior to about 1964

so much of this is because Britain made a promise to the Jews AND a promise to the Arabs.

and prior to 1967 anyone born in the Gaza Strip was an Egyptian, anyone born in the west bank was Jordanian

how come Jordan and Egypt didnt create this "Palestine" nation?

Interesting you should bring up Egypt. At the Camp David Accords, Anwar Sadat was able to negotiate with Israel to give the Sinai back to Egypt, and to give the Judea and Samaria to the Palestinians.
How was he rewarded? He was assassinated by the Muslim Brotherhood for negotiating with Israel.

 

[DiveCon]

so much of this is because Britain made a promise to the Jews AND a promise to the Arabs.

and prior to 1967 anyone born in the Gaza Strip was an Egyptian, anyone born in the west bank was Jordanian

how come Jordan and Egypt didnt create this "Palestine" nation?

Interesting you should bring up Egypt. At the Camp David Accords, Anwar Sadat was able to negotiate with Israel to give the Sinai back to Egypt, and to give the Judea and Samaria to the Palestinians.
How was he rewarded? He was assassinated by the Muslim Brotherhood for negotiating with Israel.

and Begin was assasinated by an Israeli radical
that whole thing stank

 

[elvis]

and prior to 1967 anyone born in the Gaza Strip was an Egyptian, anyone born in the west bank was Jordanian

how come Jordan and Egypt didnt create this "Palestine" nation?

Interesting you should bring up Egypt. At the Camp David Accords, Anwar Sadat was able to negotiate with Israel to give the Sinai back to Egypt, and to give the Judea and Samaria to the Palestinians.
How was he rewarded? He was assassinated by the Muslim Brotherhood for negotiating with Israel.

and Begin was assasinated by an Israeli radical
that whole thing stank

Was he? I thought that was Rabin.

 

[DiveCon]

Interesting you should bring up Egypt. At the Camp David Accords, Anwar Sadat was able to negotiate with Israel to give the Sinai back to Egypt, and to give the Judea and Samaria to the Palestinians.
How was he rewarded? He was assassinated by the Muslim Brotherhood for negotiating with Israel.

and Begin was assasinated by an Israeli radical
that whole thing stank

Was he? I thought that was Rabin.

hmmm, might have been Rabin

 

[elvis]

and Begin was assasinated by an Israeli radical
that whole thing stank

Was he? I thought that was Rabin.

hmmm, might have been Rabin

I know Rabin was because I remember when it happened. Begin was at the camp david accords. not sure what happened to him.