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Both are trying to force their agendas on people like me. I'm too busy working part time. Obviously they arent. They have time to slough off.
Here is a good comparison of the two movements...
American conservatism/tea party:
Conservatives have figured out their moral basis and you see it on Wall Street: It includes: The primacy of self-interest. Individual responsibility, but not social responsibility. Hierarchical authority based on wealth or other forms of power. A moral hierarchy of who is deserving, defined by success. And the highest principle is the primacy of this moral system itself, which goes beyond Wall Street and the economy to other arenas: family life, social life, religion, foreign policy, and especially government. Conservative democracy is seen as a system of governance and elections that fits this model.
Occupy Wall Street movement:
Democracy starts with citizens caring about one another and acting responsibly on that sense of care, taking responsibility both for oneself and for ones family, community, country, people in general, and the planet. The role of government is to protect and empower all citizens equally via The Public: public infrastructure, laws and enforcement, health, education, scientific research, protection, public lands, transportation, resources, art and culture, trade policies, safety nets, and on and on. Nobody makes it one their own. If you got wealthy, you depended on The Public, and you have a responsibility to contribute significantly to The Public so that others can benefit in the future. Moreover, the wealthy depend on those who work, and who deserve a fair return for their contribution to our national life. Corporations exist to make life better for most people. Their reason for existing is as public as it is private.
ref.
"Privilege is here, and with privilege goes responsibility. There is inherited wealth in this country and also inherited poverty. And unless the graduates of this college and other colleges like it who are given a running start in life--unless they are willing to put back into our society, those talents, the broad sympathy, the understanding, the compassion--unless they are willing to put those qualities back into the service of the Great Republic, then obviously the presuppositions upon which our democracy are based are bound to be fallible."
President John F. Kennedy
Remarks at Amherst College
Amherst, Massachusetts
October 26, 1963
Your view is a bit tainted, though you touch on the truth.
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According to OWSers, being poor is morally superior.Would this be the same Tea Party that many Democrats referred to as fake, phony,astro turf run by special interest and big business? If this is the case and the movements are twins then I guess we know what that makes occupy.
On my route, there's a house with a professionally-printed "We are the 99%" sign in the front yard.
This house is at least a hundred years old, on the lake, half a block from a marina and across the street from a Fedgov-owned and maintained park with beautiful picnic spots and a beach. Home prices on that street run around $300K.
99% my ass.
Priceless. Just priceless.
I've had the benefit in my lifetime of people who really like being rich. I love it. And I've loved every minute of loving it. And I've been rich and yes I love it. Beats the crap out of being poor. And yes I've been poor.
Give me rich every time.
According to OWSers, being poor is morally superior.On my route, there's a house with a professionally-printed "We are the 99%" sign in the front yard.
This house is at least a hundred years old, on the lake, half a block from a marina and across the street from a Fedgov-owned and maintained park with beautiful picnic spots and a beach. Home prices on that street run around $300K.
99% my ass.
Priceless. Just priceless.
I've had the benefit in my lifetime of people who really like being rich. I love it. And I've loved every minute of loving it. And I've been rich and yes I love it. Beats the crap out of being poor. And yes I've been poor.
Give me rich every time.
Of course, these are the same kind of people who believe that being raped and murdered is morally superior to defending yourself with a firearm.
Morons, the lot of 'em.
People like tinydancer who are conservative,and a success inspire me hardcore to rage my fight even more.
The progressive movement wants the United States to "progress" to the condition of the Soviet Union circa 1958.There is nothing 'tainted' Intense. It is the truth. That is why conservatives hate the progressive movement, it dismantled the plutocracy the robber barons created.
Oh, you mean like your support for King Obama?When you understand what conservatism is, every argument they make leads to the same end.
Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.
Liberalism doesn't rust people. It insists the government make all their decisions for them.When you understand this and view their words, ask the question; will this lead to some form of an aristocracy?
The answer is always YES...
Liberalism is trust of the people, tempered by prudence; conservatism, distrust of people, tempered by fear.
William E. Gladstone
Here is a good comparison of the two movements...
American conservatism/tea party:
Conservatives have figured out their moral basis and you see it on Wall Street: It includes: The primacy of self-interest. Individual responsibility, but not social responsibility. Hierarchical authority based on wealth or other forms of power. A moral hierarchy of who is deserving, defined by success. And the highest principle is the primacy of this moral system itself, which goes beyond Wall Street and the economy to other arenas: family life, social life, religion, foreign policy, and especially government. Conservative democracy is seen as a system of governance and elections that fits this model.
Occupy Wall Street movement:
Democracy starts with citizens caring about one another and acting responsibly on that sense of care, taking responsibility both for oneself and for ones family, community, country, people in general, and the planet. The role of government is to protect and empower all citizens equally via The Public: public infrastructure, laws and enforcement, health, education, scientific research, protection, public lands, transportation, resources, art and culture, trade policies, safety nets, and on and on. Nobody makes it one their own. If you got wealthy, you depended on The Public, and you have a responsibility to contribute significantly to The Public so that others can benefit in the future. Moreover, the wealthy depend on those who work, and who deserve a fair return for their contribution to our national life. Corporations exist to make life better for most people. Their reason for existing is as public as it is private.
ref.
<snipped for the pathetic quoting of an American Icon for stupid bullshit>
Here is a good comparison of the two movements...
American conservatism/tea party:
Conservatives have figured out their moral basis and you see it on Wall Street: It includes: The primacy of self-interest. Individual responsibility, but not social responsibility. Hierarchical authority based on wealth or other forms of power. A moral hierarchy of who is deserving, defined by success. And the highest principle is the primacy of this moral system itself, which goes beyond Wall Street and the economy to other arenas: family life, social life, religion, foreign policy, and especially government. Conservative democracy is seen as a system of governance and elections that fits this model.
Occupy Wall Street movement:
Democracy starts with citizens caring about one another and acting responsibly on that sense of care, taking responsibility both for oneself and for ones family, community, country, people in general, and the planet. The role of government is to protect and empower all citizens equally via The Public: public infrastructure, laws and enforcement, health, education, scientific research, protection, public lands, transportation, resources, art and culture, trade policies, safety nets, and on and on. Nobody makes it one their own. If you got wealthy, you depended on The Public, and you have a responsibility to contribute significantly to The Public so that others can benefit in the future. Moreover, the wealthy depend on those who work, and who deserve a fair return for their contribution to our national life. Corporations exist to make life better for most people. Their reason for existing is as public as it is private.
ref.
<snipped for the pathetic quoting of an American Icon for stupid bullshit>
Depends on how you define a 'good comparison'... those with an intellect over room temperature would see your 'good comparison' as partisan bullshit. Nothing 'good' about that. Moron.
Here is a good comparison of the two movements...
American conservatism/tea party:
Conservatives have figured out their moral basis and you see it on Wall Street: It includes: The primacy of self-interest. Individual responsibility, but not social responsibility. Hierarchical authority based on wealth or other forms of power. A moral hierarchy of who is deserving, defined by success. And the highest principle is the primacy of this moral system itself, which goes beyond Wall Street and the economy to other arenas: family life, social life, religion, foreign policy, and especially government. Conservative democracy is seen as a system of governance and elections that fits this model.
Occupy Wall Street movement:
Democracy starts with citizens caring about one another and acting responsibly on that sense of care, taking responsibility both for oneself and for ones family, community, country, people in general, and the planet. The role of government is to protect and empower all citizens equally via The Public: public infrastructure, laws and enforcement, health, education, scientific research, protection, public lands, transportation, resources, art and culture, trade policies, safety nets, and on and on. Nobody makes it one their own. If you got wealthy, you depended on The Public, and you have a responsibility to contribute significantly to The Public so that others can benefit in the future. Moreover, the wealthy depend on those who work, and who deserve a fair return for their contribution to our national life. Corporations exist to make life better for most people. Their reason for existing is as public as it is private.
ref.
<snipped for the pathetic quoting of an American Icon for stupid bullshit>
Depends on how you define a 'good comparison'... those with an intellect over room temperature would see your 'good comparison' as partisan bullshit. Nothing 'good' about that. Moron.
Ah, the haughty narcissistic decided to emote.
It is right on Cali gal. I hear it every day on this board. Do you disavow the Ayn Rand 'me, me, me' mantra of the right? Conservatives believe in individual responsibility alone, not social responsibility. They don't think government should help its citizens.
If you have to lie to make your point -- you're a leftist.Here is a good comparison of the two movements...
American conservatism/tea party:
Conservatives have figured out their moral basis and you see it on Wall Street: It includes: The primacy of self-interest. Individual responsibility, but not social responsibility. Hierarchical authority based on wealth or other forms of power. A moral hierarchy of who is deserving, defined by success. And the highest principle is the primacy of this moral system itself, which goes beyond Wall Street and the economy to other arenas: family life, social life, religion, foreign policy, and especially government. Conservative democracy is seen as a system of governance and elections that fits this model.
Occupy Wall Street movement:
Democracy starts with citizens caring about one another and acting responsibly on that sense of care, taking responsibility both for oneself and for ones family, community, country, people in general, and the planet. The role of government is to protect and empower all citizens equally via The Public: public infrastructure, laws and enforcement, health, education, scientific research, protection, public lands, transportation, resources, art and culture, trade policies, safety nets, and on and on. Nobody makes it one their own. If you got wealthy, you depended on The Public, and you have a responsibility to contribute significantly to The Public so that others can benefit in the future. Moreover, the wealthy depend on those who work, and who deserve a fair return for their contribution to our national life. Corporations exist to make life better for most people. Their reason for existing is as public as it is private.
ref.
<snipped for the pathetic quoting of an American Icon for stupid bullshit>
Depends on how you define a 'good comparison'... those with an intellect over room temperature would see your 'good comparison' as partisan bullshit. Nothing 'good' about that. Moron.
Ah, the haughty narcissistic decided to emote.
It is right on Cali gal. I hear it every day on this board. Do you disavow the Ayn Rand 'me, me, me' mantra of the right? Conservatives believe in individual responsibility alone, not social responsibility. They don't think government should help its citizens.
If you have to lie to make your point -- you're a leftist.Depends on how you define a 'good comparison'... those with an intellect over room temperature would see your 'good comparison' as partisan bullshit. Nothing 'good' about that. Moron.
Ah, the haughty narcissistic decided to emote.
It is right on Cali gal. I hear it every day on this board. Do you disavow the Ayn Rand 'me, me, me' mantra of the right? Conservatives believe in individual responsibility alone, not social responsibility. They don't think government should help its citizens.
No one believes there should be no safety net.
But you want a hammock.
If you have to lie to make your point -- you're a leftist.Depends on how you define a 'good comparison'... those with an intellect over room temperature would see your 'good comparison' as partisan bullshit. Nothing 'good' about that. Moron.
Ah, the haughty narcissistic decided to emote.
It is right on Cali gal. I hear it every day on this board. Do you disavow the Ayn Rand 'me, me, me' mantra of the right? Conservatives believe in individual responsibility alone, not social responsibility. They don't think government should help its citizens.
No one believes there should be no safety net.
But you want a hammock.
Here is a good comparison of the two movements...
American conservatism/tea party:
Conservatives have figured out their moral basis and you see it on Wall Street: It includes: The primacy of self-interest. Individual responsibility, but not social responsibility. Hierarchical authority based on wealth or other forms of power. A moral hierarchy of who is deserving, defined by success. And the highest principle is the primacy of this moral system itself, which goes beyond Wall Street and the economy to other arenas: family life, social life, religion, foreign policy, and especially government. Conservative democracy is seen as a system of governance and elections that fits this model.
Occupy Wall Street movement:
Democracy starts with citizens caring about one another and acting responsibly on that sense of care, taking responsibility both for oneself and for ones family, community, country, people in general, and the planet. The role of government is to protect and empower all citizens equally via The Public: public infrastructure, laws and enforcement, health, education, scientific research, protection, public lands, transportation, resources, art and culture, trade policies, safety nets, and on and on. Nobody makes it one their own. If you got wealthy, you depended on The Public, and you have a responsibility to contribute significantly to The Public so that others can benefit in the future. Moreover, the wealthy depend on those who work, and who deserve a fair return for their contribution to our national life. Corporations exist to make life better for most people. Their reason for existing is as public as it is private.
ref.
<snipped for the pathetic quoting of an American Icon for stupid bullshit>
Depends on how you define a 'good comparison'... those with an intellect over room temperature would see your 'good comparison' as partisan bullshit. Nothing 'good' about that. Moron.
Ah, the haughty narcissistic decided to emote.
It is right on Cali gal. I hear it every day on this board. Do you disavow the Ayn Rand 'me, me, me' mantra of the right? Conservatives believe in individual responsibility alone, not social responsibility. They don't think government should help its citizens.
If you have to lie to make your point -- you're a leftist.Ah, the haughty narcissistic decided to emote.
It is right on Cali gal. I hear it every day on this board. Do you disavow the Ayn Rand 'me, me, me' mantra of the right? Conservatives believe in individual responsibility alone, not social responsibility. They don't think government should help its citizens.
No one believes there should be no safety net.
But you want a hammock.
Yea, the typical right wing polarized argument. IF you believe there should be a safety net, why are so many right wing turds calling for an end to social programs? Or supporting Paul Ryan and the teabaggers attempt to privatize Medicare? You right wing opulent ass lickers never have a problem when big pharma and the insurance cartels hook their auto-milkers up to the government tit and suck taxpayers out of billions.
Depends on how you define a 'good comparison'... those with an intellect over room temperature would see your 'good comparison' as partisan bullshit. Nothing 'good' about that. Moron.
Ah, the haughty narcissistic decided to emote.
It is right on Cali gal. I hear it every day on this board. Do you disavow the Ayn Rand 'me, me, me' mantra of the right? Conservatives believe in individual responsibility alone, not social responsibility. They don't think government should help its citizens.
Ah... the idiot bullshitter responds.
It is bullshit, Bf.... you don't 'hear' anything... you are incapable of 'hearing'... you are far more prone to accepting one version and dismissing another. Conservatives believe in personal responsibility (not individual responsibility).... we are all responsible for our own lives.... we don't want government interference.... you see 'help', we see interference... we believe in a hand up, not a hand out. We are just as entitled to our views as Americans as you are to yours. What you are not entitled to do is steal from me to give to someone else. I'll help that person myself.... I don't need you involved.