Should We (Trump) Disband NATO Or Just Pull Out Entirely?

[Erinwltr]

Again....who was the only country to invoke Article 5 in the NATO treaty?

I think it was the US.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This is what Trump has been bitching about.

It is time to take Germany off of welfare.

German Hillary has really fucked up that country, hasn't she?

Germany's Air Force Is Dying a Slow Death


Germany's Air Force Is Dying a Slow Death

The Luftwaffe's Eurofighter readiness issues are compounded by a lack of air-combat missiles.

None of the German navy's six submarines are combat-ready and just nine of 15 frigates are in full service. Moreover, only 95 of the army's 244 tanks are operational.

Troop numbers have been slashed from almost 500,000 to just 180

They're too busy paying for Soros's invasion

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The rest of NATO need to kick the US out. The US spends far too much on bombs and wants to drag the rest of NATO along with it. But the lobbyists are not as powerful in Europe as they are in the US and are less effective.

Everybody is happy then.

 

[DrLove]

Withdrawing our support of NATO is just why Putin wanted Trump elected

Looks like he is getting his moneys worth

Yep - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
Vlad's greatest return on investment to date.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Again....who was the only country to invoke Article 5 in the NATO treaty?

Look what it got us. Muslims now control most of Germany, Italy, London and Paris.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The rest of NATO need to kick the US out. The US spends far too much on bombs and wants to drag the rest of NATO along with it. But the lobbyists are not as powerful in Europe as they are in the US and are less effective.

Everybody is happy then.

Adios!

 

[blastoff]

We have a NATO powwow and let all member nations know the US will no longer stand for member countries not living up to their payment requirements. Pay up what you owe in X months or you’re out of the UN. If the UN doesn’t follow through and kick them out then the US is out. After the X months are up we see where things stand and act accordingly.

What NATO country would think the alliance is worth a crap without the military power of the US?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We have a NATO powwow and let all member nations know the US will no longer stand for member countries not living up to their payment requirements. Pay up what you owe in X months or you’re out of the UN. If the UN doesn’t follow through and kick them out then the US is out. After the X months are up we see where things stand and act accordingly.

What NATO country would think the alliance is worth a crap without the military power of the US?

What's the point of the UN anyway? Most of the world lacks running water and electricity, but instead of making things better at home, UN reps chide the USA.

 

[MrShangles]

Trump doesn't like it because Putin doesn't like it. We must all come to terms with the fact that he is now a Russian asset,

My suggestion would be that he start a competing entity to the G-7. They could call it the S-7 or Strongmen-7 to include countries led by murderous autocrats he has praised and wants to be more like -- US, Russia, Syria, North Korea, Turkey, Philippines and China.

6 Strongmen Trump Has Praised — And The Conflicts It Presents

PS: Have you been paying any attention to what's been going on with NoKo? Trump couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag.

North Korea said otherwise in a statement published shortly after Pompeo flew out. The fragile new diplomacy, its Foreign Ministry insisted, has entered a “dangerous phase that might rattle our willingness for denuclearization.” It charged that the United States was making “gangster-like” demands.

“We had expected that the U.S. side would offer constructive measures that would help build trust based on the spirit of the leaders’ summit,” the statement said. Pyongyang had been considering reciprocal measures, it added. “However, the attitude and stance the United States showed in the first high-level meeting was no doubt regrettable. Our expectations and hopes were so naive it could be called foolish.”​

North Korea Declares U.S. Diplomacy “Gangster-Like“

If Trump goes easy on NK y’all bitch, if Trump goes tough on NK y’all bitch. That’s the problem with liberals, TDS


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[MrShangles]

Withdrawing our support of NATO is just why Putin wanted Trump elected

Looks like he is getting his moneys worth

If you go out for lunch with your work friends, do you always pay the biggest part of the tab every time y’all go out, would you?


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[LuckyDuck]

Trump Declines to Affirm NATO's Article 5

It is no mystery to anyone that both Russia and Trump are no big fans of NATO -- Russia doesn't like it because NATO is a check on their possible expansion back into Eastern Europe and Trump doesn't like it because people told him to -- or as he claims, other countries don't pay enough of their share-- so wouldn't ending NATO be the best solution and save us billions of dollars?

It would be better if we embrace the fact we now have the worlds best negotiator as president and he could negotiate a better deal than what we have with NATO -- and I keep hearing opponents talk about treaties and something about article 5 and how important it is we keep our pledge

What is article 5 anyway? Like, why is that important and we would never need to invoke that provision ourselves, so why should we have to adhere to it?

Perhaps our affiliation with NATO should be re-evaluated and our nation realign itself with nations more in line with our ideas. Forming an alliance with nations like, Hungary, Poland and Czech Republic, would be a start. Italy has made it clear that they do not want to be overrun with Islamists and are tossing out most of them and Austria is finally taking a hard stance on the same issue. Nations not wanting to become Islamic Theocracies can make good partners (excluding such nations as North Korea, et cetera).

 

[karpenter]

I Thought NATO Should Have Dissolved
With The Fall Of The Soviet Union
The Reason NATO Was Formed

We Welcomed The Membership
With Former Pact Nations
While Not Extending Anything To Help The New Russia
And That Was Well Before Putin

Erdogan Is Making Himself An Untenable Issue
Something Will Eventually Have To Be Done About Him
But Turkey Is Still A NATO Member

 

[DrLove]

If Trump goes easy on NK y’all bitch, if Trump goes tough on NK y’all bitch. That’s the problem with liberals, TDS

The problem isn't whether DJT goes easy or hard on NoKo Shangles. The problem is that he's an incompetent rube. One does not conduct foreign policy by tweet or agree to meet a tinhorn dictator in person one on one and absolutely get rolled.

We can all hardly wait to see him get rolled by Putin. Kiss the sanctions goodbye.

 

[karpenter]

The problem isn't whether DJT goes easy or hard on NoKo Shangles. The problem is that he's an incompetent rube.

So Was Reagan

One does not conduct foreign policy by tweet or agree to meet a tinhorn dictator in person one on one and absolutely get rolled.

You Also Can't Expect A Whole House To Get Built
The Day You Have A Door

It Has Been Explained This Is An Ongoing Process

Meanwhile:
The NORKS Have Been Quiet
For Quite Awhile