Should we tear down the Statue of Liberty?

Should we tear down the Statue of Liberty

  • Build the wall, tear down the statue.

  • Screw the wall, bring us your tired...

  • Build the wall, but leave the Statue up for humor's sake.


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One of my students arrived here from Ireland and she was not eligible for ANY benefits, and she and her husband were living in a goddamned tent. No lie. She couldn't get food stamps, nothing.

What part of that needs to be fixed?

What do you mean?
You said the "gravy train" needed to be fixed. I thought you meant the welfare system that immigrants supposedly "suck on" their whole lives. The thing is, they aren't allowed to, at least not if they're legally here . And I had clients ten years ago that had their Medicaid and food stamps and TANF cancelled because they hadn't come up with a birth certificate for DHHS, and at least in Maine, they weren't giving benefits to anyone who couldn't prove they were a citizen. So explain how this system needs to be fixed.

I'm not sure exactly. But the wall-cowards keep claiming that Mexican immigrants are coming here for the freebies. If that's really their beef, we can address that without indulging fascist wet dreams.

Of course, when I point this out they simply move on to another, equally worthless, excuse for building the wall.

What / who are these “Wall-Cowards” you speak of?
(neat catch phrase)
You.

I’m curious, give it to us straight...don’t be scared.
If you had unwanted, uninvited trespassers pitching tents in your backyard and telling you to go fuck yourself when you ask them to to leave...what would you do about it...how would you mitigate the issue?
 
That sounds more like slacker millennials than any Mexicans I've known. The gravy train is the problem, not poor people, not Mexicans. Fix that, and there's no need to tilt fascist.
One of my students arrived here from Ireland and she was not eligible for ANY benefits, and she and her husband were living in a goddamned tent. No lie. She couldn't get food stamps, nothing.

What part of that needs to be fixed?

What do you mean?
You said the "gravy train" needed to be fixed. I thought you meant the welfare system that immigrants supposedly "suck on" their whole lives. The thing is, they aren't allowed to, at least not if they're legally here . And I had clients ten years ago that had their Medicaid and food stamps and TANF cancelled because they hadn't come up with a birth certificate for DHHS, and at least in Maine, they weren't giving benefits to anyone who couldn't prove they were a citizen. So explain how this system needs to be fixed.

I'm not sure exactly. But the wall-cowards keep claiming that Mexican immigrants are coming here for the freebies. If that's really their beef, we can address that without indulging fascist wet dreams.

Of course, when I point this out they simply move on to another, equally worthless, excuse for building the wall.
They have a lot of stupid arguments, granted, but I see no problem with a physical barrier in areas where there are a lot of people jumping the border. It seems "mean" to the border agents to make them chase these people to ground after they walk across the line, instead of having a fence that keeps them where they belong to begin with.
A wall or fence in strategic areas is a good idea, PART of a strategy for stronger border security.
I have to admit, my first knee jerk reaction to the Wall was --I kid you not--hearing Reagan saying "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
The wall Reagan told Gorbachev to tear down divided one country, one city, and one people. Mexicans say that the border divides one country also. That country is Mexico. Do you agree that a wall on the border would divide one country and one people?

If you don't, stop saying silly things.
 
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

-- or not?
Got to be one of the stupidest comments / questions posted on USMB...

Awesome! Do I get some kind of award or something?
You already got it - recognition.

(BTW, I am not calling you stupid. I just thought that was one of the stupidest comments ever posted.)
 
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

-- or not?
Got to be one of the stupidest comments / questions posted on USMB...

Awesome! Do I get some kind of award or something?

Sure, you get a participation trophy....Pelosi is sending it in the mail.
 
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

-- or not?

Not to worry, liberals will get around to that one eventually.

What is your answer?

What you really mean is you didn't like my answer...my bad.

I was just curious if you were going to answer the poll. Are you skeered? There's no Mexicans hiding behind it. It's safe. I promise.
I say build the wall, keep the statue, and deport liberals. That's the ultimate solution.
 
One of my students arrived here from Ireland and she was not eligible for ANY benefits, and she and her husband were living in a goddamned tent. No lie. She couldn't get food stamps, nothing.

What part of that needs to be fixed?

What do you mean?
You said the "gravy train" needed to be fixed. I thought you meant the welfare system that immigrants supposedly "suck on" their whole lives. The thing is, they aren't allowed to, at least not if they're legally here . And I had clients ten years ago that had their Medicaid and food stamps and TANF cancelled because they hadn't come up with a birth certificate for DHHS, and at least in Maine, they weren't giving benefits to anyone who couldn't prove they were a citizen. So explain how this system needs to be fixed.

I'm not sure exactly. But the wall-cowards keep claiming that Mexican immigrants are coming here for the freebies. If that's really their beef, we can address that without indulging fascist wet dreams.

Of course, when I point this out they simply move on to another, equally worthless, excuse for building the wall.
They have a lot of stupid arguments, granted, but I see no problem with a physical barrier in areas where there are a lot of people jumping the border. It seems "mean" to the border agents to make them chase these people to ground after they walk across the line, instead of having a fence that keeps them where they belong to begin with.
A wall or fence in strategic areas is a good idea, PART of a strategy for stronger border security.
I have to admit, my first knee jerk reaction to the Wall was --I kid you not--hearing Reagan saying "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
The wall Reagan told Gorbachev to tear down divided one country, one city, and one people. Mexicans say that the border divides one country also. That country is Mexico. Do you agree that a wall on the border would divide one country and one people?

If you don't, stop saying silly things.

The LEFT has to LIE to fit their narrative. The Berlin Wall was intended to keep East Germans IN, not anybody out. Our wall on the Mexican border would be to keep invading, illegal aliens out, not Americans IN.

Democrats are proven liars.
 
If you had unwanted, uninvited trespassers pitching tents in your backyard and telling you to go fuck yourself when you ask them to to leave...what would you do about it...how would you mitigate the issue?

Shoot them?

On the other hand, if I'd invited them and I was OK with it, it's really none of your fucking business.
 
I’m curious, give it to us straight...don’t be scared.
If you had unwanted, uninvited trespassers pitching tents in your backyard and telling you to go fuck yourself when you ask them to to leave...what would you do about it...how would you mitigate the issue?
According to 'The Book Of Chuck/Nancy', you feed them, give them clothes, build them shelter if not invite them inside to live with them OR if you decide not to move out and just give them your house, pay for their medical care, turn the other cheek when they assault/rape/murder one of your family members, don't be surprised when they invite more of their friends/family to come into your back yard, and especially don't be mad when the local mayor / governor declares your backyard to be a 'Sanctuary backyard'. And of course, realize that if you refuse to do these things and instead call the cops or grab your shotgun and escort them off your property then YOU are a RACIST and are Un-American.
 
I’m curious, give it to us straight...don’t be scared.
If you had unwanted, uninvited trespassers pitching tents in your backyard and telling you to go fuck yourself when you ask them to to leave...what would you do about it...how would you mitigate the issue?

I would ask them to leave, and give them the opportunity to do so. If they did not leave I would call the police, and have them physically removed. If it continued to happen I would take further measures to secure my property.

The United States, and its resources are OUR PROPERTY. We need to take further measures to secure it as the illegals are still coming, and taking our property. We've asked them politely to leave, and also told them not to come anymore. They have ignored us. It is time for more drastic measures.
 
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Shoot them? On the other hand, if I'd invited them and I was OK with it, it's really none of your fucking business.

No one (except the Democrats, perhaps) has invited the 20+ million illegals living here today to come her, or asked the 1500 illegals reportedly crossing per day, or asked MS13, human traffickers, rapists, pedophiles, and cop killers to cross our borders.

When Iive in a law-abiding city and suddenly my Mayor / Governor declare they are intentionally breaking the law / Federal Law by making my city a 'Sanctuary City' it is very much my business.
 
If you had unwanted, uninvited trespassers pitching tents in your backyard and telling you to go fuck yourself when you ask them to to leave...what would you do about it...how would you mitigate the issue?

Shoot them?

On the other hand, if I'd invited them and I was OK with it, it's really none of your fucking business.

Oh, we know you’re a complete badass...we get it.
Do you feel stupid yet?
 
Got to be one of the stupidest comments / questions posted on USMB...

Awesome! Do I get some kind of award or something?
You already got it - recognition.

(BTW, I am not calling you stupid. I just thought that was one of the stupidest comments ever posted.)

Thanks! The contempt of idiots is something to cherish.
Good, because you are probably getting lots of if for that comment.
 
If you had unwanted, uninvited trespassers pitching tents in your backyard and telling you to go fuck yourself when you ask them to to leave...what would you do about it...how would you mitigate the issue?

Shoot them?

On the other hand, if I'd invited them and I was OK with it, it's really none of your fucking business.

Oh, we know you’re a complete badass...we get it.
Do you feel stupid yet?

No. Can you give me pointers?
 
If you had unwanted, uninvited trespassers pitching tents in your backyard and telling you to go fuck yourself when you ask them to to leave...what would you do about it...how would you mitigate the issue?

Shoot them?

On the other hand, if I'd invited them and I was OK with it, it's really none of your fucking business.

When they're parking on your front lawn, pissing on your shrubbery it is none of our business. If it degrades property values in the neighborhood it is our fucking business...dumbass.
 
I’m curious, give it to us straight...don’t be scared.
If you had unwanted, uninvited trespassers pitching tents in your backyard and telling you to go fuck yourself when you ask them to to leave...what would you do about it...how would you mitigate the issue?

I would ask them to leave, and give them the opportunity to do so. If they did not leave I would call the police, and have them physically removed. If it continued to happen I would take further measures to secure my property.

Kind of a no-brainer...right?
We’d all build a barrier to deter the filthy pieces of shits...right?
 
When they're parking on your front lawn, pissing on your shrubbery it is none of our business. If it degrades property values in the neighborhood it is our fucking business...dumbass.

Nope. No one has a right to "property values".
 
I would ask them to leave, and give them the opportunity to do so. If they did not leave I would call the police, and have them physically removed. If it continued to happen I would take further measures to secure my property.

Kind of a no-brainer...right?
We’d all build a barrier to deter the filthy pieces of shits...right?

It is kind of obvious. The "brain" part comes in recognizing that comparing private property rights to national boundaries isn't valid. But I guess you'll have to take my word for it.
 

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