Should we tear down the Statue of Liberty?

[dblack]

Build a wall around it

have Mexico pay for it

and see if makes you feel safer

The wall is just a start.

I'm well aware of that. Which is why it's so important we halt this fascist insanity now.

Laws and events that occurred in the past affect things now. Politicians did nothing to slow drugs from entering our nation. Yeah, we had/have the Coast Guard make a stop here and there and other events. And in the mean time millions of men and women arrested and many dead from using drugs. Decades of inaction from them. We all have personal interests. Many have family and relatives who have suffered from drug usage and affecting their lifestyles. Drugs must be attacked in real terms and it may be multi faceted. And many come through the southern border as well as other points of entry. We became a slovenly and selfish people and we suffer the results of it now even as we live better then the past to some extent.

There's a very clear connection between the stupidity of the "drug war" and the desire for a wall. Both are delusional and hinge on laws that don't acknowledge reality. The reality is that people, many people, in the US want drugs, and they want Mexican immigrants. That's why both are here, regardless of authoritarian attempts to prevent it.

Statists become enamored with the idea that government can solve social problems by passing laws, but usually it doesn't work. For the most part, people are going to do what they want regardless of the law. Laws only work to codify behavior that the overwhelming majority have already adopted. That's why it's so stupid to pass laws that pursue significant social change without a real consensus behind them. 51% just won't cut it.

 

[harmonica]

this is not 1850 or 1950 anymore
the world and the US has changed--DRASTICALLY
immigrants can't just grab a piece of land and start farming

 

[22lcidw]

Build a wall around it

have Mexico pay for it

and see if makes you feel safer

The wall is just a start.

I'm well aware of that. Which is why it's so important we halt this fascist insanity now.

Laws and events that occurred in the past affect things now. Politicians did nothing to slow drugs from entering our nation. Yeah, we had/have the Coast Guard make a stop here and there and other events. And in the mean time millions of men and women arrested and many dead from using drugs. Decades of inaction from them. We all have personal interests. Many have family and relatives who have suffered from drug usage and affecting their lifestyles. Drugs must be attacked in real terms and it may be multi faceted. And many come through the southern border as well as other points of entry. We became a slovenly and selfish people and we suffer the results of it now even as we live better then the past to some extent.

There's a very clear connection between the stupidity of the "drug war" and the desire for a wall. Both are delusional and hinge on laws that don't acknowledge reality. The reality is that people, many people, in the US want drugs, and they want Mexican immigrants. That's why both are here, regardless of authoritarian attempts to prevent it.

Statists become enamored with the idea that government can solve social problems by passing laws, but usually it doesn't work. For the most part, people are going to do what they want regardless of the law. Laws only work to codify behavior that the overwhelming majority have already adopted. That's why it's so stupid to pass laws that pursue significant social change without a real consensus behind them. 51% just won't cut it.

Drugs are not alcohol. Drug users just do not affect themselves. They affect their families emotionally and financially and cost the taxpayer. They go to prison and will commit crimes if bad enough. About the immigrants. It is not the Mexican immigrants. It is the amount of Mexican immigrants and the cost to the taxpayer to those who are not working. Authoritarian rule is already here.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Well, I'm pretty sure I've told you before, but I'm not a Democrat, and I don't read their talking points. I'm just pointing out the obvious idiocy that has taken over the Republican party.

Yet you are silent on the idiocy that has been prevalent in the Democrats for at least 5 decades?

Heh... clearly you haven't been paying attention to my posts. In fact, by biggest concern is the socialist backlash that the Democrats will lead in response to Trump's idiocy. And Trump is creating the tools they will need (e.g. the wall).

Calling the wall "idiocy" proves you are a libtard.

 

[dblack]

Well, I'm pretty sure I've told you before, but I'm not a Democrat, and I don't read their talking points. I'm just pointing out the obvious idiocy that has taken over the Republican party.

Yet you are silent on the idiocy that has been prevalent in the Democrats for at least 5 decades?

Heh... clearly you haven't been paying attention to my posts. In fact, by biggest concern is the socialist backlash that the Democrats will lead in response to Trump's idiocy. And Trump is creating the tools they will need (e.g. the wall).

Calling the wall "idiocy" proves you are a libtard.

So that's the only criteria for a "libtard". Got it.

 

[dblack]

Drugs are not alcohol. Drug users just do not affect themselves. They affect their families emotionally and financially and cost the taxpayer. They go to prison and will commit crimes if bad enough. About the immigrants. It is not the Mexican immigrants. It is the amount of Mexican immigrants and the cost to the taxpayer to those who are not working. Authoritarian rule is already here.

All hail authoritarian rule!

Uh, no. Take your jack boots and piss off.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Build a wall around it

have Mexico pay for it

and see if makes you feel safer

The wall is just a start.

I'm well aware of that. Which is why it's so important we halt this fascist insanity now.

Laws and events that occurred in the past affect things now. Politicians did nothing to slow drugs from entering our nation. Yeah, we had/have the Coast Guard make a stop here and there and other events. And in the mean time millions of men and women arrested and many dead from using drugs. Decades of inaction from them. We all have personal interests. Many have family and relatives who have suffered from drug usage and affecting their lifestyles. Drugs must be attacked in real terms and it may be multi faceted. And many come through the southern border as well as other points of entry. We became a slovenly and selfish people and we suffer the results of it now even as we live better then the past to some extent.

There's a very clear connection between the stupidity of the "drug war" and the desire for a wall. Both are delusional and hinge on laws that don't acknowledge reality. The reality is that people, many people, in the US want drugs, and they want Mexican immigrants. That's why both are here, regardless of authoritarian attempts to prevent it.

Statists become enamored with the idea that government can solve social problems by passing laws, but usually it doesn't work. For the most part, people are going to do what they want regardless of the law. Laws only work to codify behavior that the overwhelming majority have already adopted. That's why it's so stupid to pass laws that pursue significant social change without a real consensus behind them. 51% just won't cut it.

“There's a very clear connection between the stupidity of the "drug war" and the desire for a wall. Both are delusional and hinge on laws that don't acknowledge reality.”
There’s a very clear connection between those ignorant lowlifes who think drugs should be legal and those twisted unAmericans who hate our right to sovereignty. Both are complete wackos and run with the Party Of Filth.

“The reality is that people, many people, in the US want drugs, and they want Mexican immigrants. That's why both are here, regardless of authoritarian attempts to prevent it.”
The reality is that people, many people in the US want to fuck young children and Labradors and they want African slaves again. Because they want these things they should have that right and those damn authoritarian types shouldn’t be able to prevent it.

 

[dblack]

The reality is that people, many people in the US want to fuck young children and Labradors and they want African slaves again.

Hmm... well, I've sort of suspected you live in an 'alternate reality', so maybe there it's true.

 

[BrokeLoser]

The reality is that people, many people in the US want to fuck young children and Labradors and they want African slaves again.

Hmm... well, I've sort of suspected you live in an 'alternate reality', so maybe there it's true.

There you go...pretend we don’t have a shit-ton of pedophiles...and those of you always telling us that we need desperate people willing to work for shit and that we need slaves.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

"yearning to be free" does not mean "getting in on all the free stuff", "Trying to undermine our way of life by replacing it with the cultural norms of an alien culture" or "seeking greater opportunity to engage in drug and human trafficking"

It means to come here to contribute to our society and become an American. This current fashion popular among the regressive left to sit back and call "ollyolly oxenfree" to anybody who wishes to storm our shores and crash our gates is simply a recipe for the destruction of our very way of life.

Immigration should be selective. It should be gradual. It should be predicated upon assimilation. Why anybody would want to just open up the flood gates is beyond me.

 

[dblack]

The reality is that people, many people in the US want to fuck young children and Labradors and they want African slaves again.

Hmm... well, I've sort of suspected you live in an 'alternate reality', so maybe there it's true.

There you go...pretend we don’t have a shit-ton of pedophiles...and those of you always telling us that we need desperate people willing to work for shit and that we need slaves.

In your alternate reality, I'm sure that's all true.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, a lot of you are screaming that there is a flood of immigrants coming over the southern border. Guess you missed the part where illegal immigration is at an all time low, since 2004.

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

The number of unauthorized immigrants living in the United States was lower in 2016 than at any time since 2004. This decline is due mainly to a large drop in the number of new unauthorized immigrants, especially Mexicans, coming into the country. The origin countries of unauthorized immigrants also shifted during that time, with the number from Mexico declining and the number rising from only one other region, Central America, according to the latest Pew Research Center estimates.

 

[BrokeLoser]

You know, a lot of you are screaming that there is a flood of immigrants coming over the southern border. Guess you missed the part where illegal immigration is at an all time low, since 2004.

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

The number of unauthorized immigrants living in the United States was lower in 2016 than at any time since 2004. This decline is due mainly to a large drop in the number of new unauthorized immigrants, especially Mexicans, coming into the country. The origin countries of unauthorized immigrants also shifted during that time, with the number from Mexico declining and the number rising from only one other region, Central America, according to the latest Pew Research Center estimates.

Haha...somebody’s lying huh?
Does that LefTarded bullshit really seem rational to you?
We had a President inviting wetbacks here and we had entire cities and states proclaiming sanctuary for them but fewer were coming over...and that makes sense to you?
2.5 Million Join Illegal Population under Obama
Yale shocker: 29.5 million illegal immigrants, 3X higher than Census number

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, a lot of you are screaming that there is a flood of immigrants coming over the southern border. Guess you missed the part where illegal immigration is at an all time low, since 2004.

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

The number of unauthorized immigrants living in the United States was lower in 2016 than at any time since 2004. This decline is due mainly to a large drop in the number of new unauthorized immigrants, especially Mexicans, coming into the country. The origin countries of unauthorized immigrants also shifted during that time, with the number from Mexico declining and the number rising from only one other region, Central America, according to the latest Pew Research Center estimates.

Haha...somebody’s lying huh?
Does that LefTarded bullshit really seem rational to you?
We had a President inviting wetbacks here and we had entire cities and states proclaiming sanctuary for them but fewer were coming over...and that makes sense to you?
2.5 Million Join Illegal Population under Obama
Yale shocker: 29.5 million illegal immigrants, 3X higher than Census number

You know, I actually bother to read the links that people put in their posts. Your link about the "2.5 Million Join Illegal Population Under Obama" also has this to say.....................

From your link...........................

While the level of new illegal immigration is lower than a decade ago, the enormous ongoing scale of illegal immigration is a clear indication that the United States has not come close to controlling it.


It clearly states that the levels of illegal immigration have been going down for the past decade.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

-- or not?

No where does it state "ignore immigration laws."

 

[ThisIsMe]

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

-- or not?

Not to worry, liberals will get around to that one eventually.

[emoji23]

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

-- or not?

All countries control their borders and immigration.
The Statue of Liberty is not an immigration policy.

 

[Kilroy2]

You know, a lot of you are screaming that there is a flood of immigrants coming over the southern border. Guess you missed the part where illegal immigration is at an all time low, since 2004.

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

The number of unauthorized immigrants living in the United States was lower in 2016 than at any time since 2004. This decline is due mainly to a large drop in the number of new unauthorized immigrants, especially Mexicans, coming into the country. The origin countries of unauthorized immigrants also shifted during that time, with the number from Mexico declining and the number rising from only one other region, Central America, according to the latest Pew Research Center estimates.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

-- or not?

All countries control their borders and immigration.
The Statue of Liberty is not an immigration policy.

Of course it not a policy

It is a symbol of freedom to the entire world that America accepted at one point in time

Many European countries accept immigrants as this was how symbolical the statue is

even US citizens spent there own money to finance the building of the statue

The US built a immigration station on Ellis island

12 million immigrants pass through Ellis island including Trumps father

and now his son became El presidente

This is a story that could be symbolical and bring a tear to some peoples eye

yet even ET seems to have ruined that

So at this point in time there are some who say tear it down and they would probably donate money for that cause

I would say it is to late

That ship has long sailed

We probably need to put ET on that ship before it sails into the sunset.

Bon Voyage El Presidente

 

[dblack]

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

-- or not?

All countries control their borders and immigration.
The Statue of Liberty is not an immigration policy.

So should we tear it down? It represents a point of view that Trumpsters detest - I'd think they'd be eager to get rid of it. And for those of us who love liberty, it will just be a painful reminder of what we've lost. If Trump represents the future of the country, the Statue of Liberty has no place here.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

-- or not?

All countries control their borders and immigration.
The Statue of Liberty is not an immigration policy.

So should we tear it down? It represents a point of view that Trumpsters detest - I'd think they'd be eager to get rid of it. And for those of us who love liberty, it will just be a painful reminder of what we've lost. If Trump represents the future of the country, the Statue of Liberty has no place here.

Do not tear it down.
The Statue of Liberty is the symbol of America's freedoms.
It's not a symbol for mass illegal immigration or a symbol for people yearning welfare or a symbol for people yearning to mass murder infidels.