Should we stop the installation of the new scanners?

[Baruch Menachem]

This is the third thread on this, but this is from a different side.

We were told that the scanners wouldn't/couldn't be used to check areas that shouldn't be checked, and that the personnel manning them would behave in an adult manner.


During the installation testing of the scanners in Florida,one of the TSA scanners had some facts about his manhood revealed that caused him to be subjected to a great deal of humor from his co workers. So much so that he responded by attacking one of his tormentors with a metal rod.

To me, this is proof that what we were told about the scanners is false. The TSA people are not adult enough to use them properly, and that there is too much humiliation involved for the folks who are run through them.


The crotch bomber was on do not fly lists, on the basis of regular police work done correctly should have been stopped before he even got on the plane in Lagos. Scanners would not have done much more than add one more level of failure.

Do those who supported the scanners have second thoughts yet?

 

[blu]

why would they have second thoughts? they love big government and anything they throw at them in the name of "security". fucking pussies is what they are, neocons & liberals suck the same big government dick, just for different reasons

 

[Foxfyre]

This is the third thread on this, but this is from a different side.

We were told that the scanners wouldn't/couldn't be used to check areas that shouldn't be checked, and that the personnel manning them would behave in an adult manner.


During the installation testing of the scanners in Florida,one of the TSA scanners had some facts about his manhood revealed that caused him to be subjected to a great deal of humor from his co workers. So much so that he responded by attacking one of his tormentors with a metal rod.

To me, this is proof that what we were told about the scanners is false. The TSA people are not adult enough to use them properly, and that there is too much humiliation involved for the folks who are run through them.


The crotch bomber was on do not fly lists, on the basis of regular police work done correctly should have been stopped before he even got on the plane in Lagos. Scanners would not have done much more than add one more level of failure.

Do those who supported the scanners have second thoughts yet?

I am opposed to them being used routinely. I would much rather do some sensible profiling focusing on the most likely suspects for terrorist intentions. Those that are behaving suspciously or who are dressed suspiciously should be given the option of a thorough search or walking through a scanner.

There should be the heaviest penalties for any personnel caught misusing the scanning equipment in any way.

Already the UK is looking at problems developing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/04/new-scanners-child-porn-laws

 

[pans trogladyta]

why would they have second thoughts? they love big government and anything they throw at them in the name of "security". fucking pussies is what they are, neocons & liberals suck the same big government dick, just for different reasons

I'd say your response was a complete waste of same.

 

[blu]

tsa scanner operator looks like a viable career for ex-catholic priests

 

[pans trogladyta]

This is the third thread on this, but this is from a different side.

We were told that the scanners wouldn't/couldn't be used to check areas that shouldn't be checked, and that the personnel manning them would behave in an adult manner.


During the installation testing of the scanners in Florida,one of the TSA scanners had some facts about his manhood revealed that caused him to be subjected to a great deal of humor from his co workers. So much so that he responded by attacking one of his tormentors with a metal rod.

To me, this is proof that what we were told about the scanners is false. The TSA people are not adult enough to use them properly, and that there is too much humiliation involved for the folks who are run through them.


The crotch bomber was on do not fly lists, on the basis of regular police work done correctly should have been stopped before he even got on the plane in Lagos. Scanners would not have done much more than add one more level of failure.

Do those who supported the scanners have second thoughts yet?

Didn't support them, still don't. We keep trying to substitute gadgets and gizmos for thought and intelligence.

 

[rightwinger]

This is the third thread on this, but this is from a different side.

We were told that the scanners wouldn't/couldn't be used to check areas that shouldn't be checked, and that the personnel manning them would behave in an adult manner.


During the installation testing of the scanners in Florida,one of the TSA scanners had some facts about his manhood revealed that caused him to be subjected to a great deal of humor from his co workers. So much so that he responded by attacking one of his tormentors with a metal rod.

To me, this is proof that what we were told about the scanners is false. The TSA people are not adult enough to use them properly, and that there is too much humiliation involved for the folks who are run through them.


The crotch bomber was on do not fly lists, on the basis of regular police work done correctly should have been stopped before he even got on the plane in Lagos. Scanners would not have done much more than add one more level of failure.

Do those who supported the scanners have second thoughts yet?

You would count on the No-Fly list to screen out all potential terrorists?

It is easy to find out who is on the No Fly list and who isn't. The scanners will catch things that metal detectors don't. If screeners act unprofessional....Fire Them

 

[Foxfyre]

This is the third thread on this, but this is from a different side.

We were told that the scanners wouldn't/couldn't be used to check areas that shouldn't be checked, and that the personnel manning them would behave in an adult manner.


During the installation testing of the scanners in Florida,one of the TSA scanners had some facts about his manhood revealed that caused him to be subjected to a great deal of humor from his co workers. So much so that he responded by attacking one of his tormentors with a metal rod.

To me, this is proof that what we were told about the scanners is false. The TSA people are not adult enough to use them properly, and that there is too much humiliation involved for the folks who are run through them.


The crotch bomber was on do not fly lists, on the basis of regular police work done correctly should have been stopped before he even got on the plane in Lagos. Scanners would not have done much more than add one more level of failure.

Do those who supported the scanners have second thoughts yet?

You would count on the No-Fly list to screen out all potential terrorists?

It is easy to find out who is on the No Fly list and who isn't. The scanners will catch things that metal detectors don't. If screeners act unprofessional....Fire Them

Actually I haven't minded increased airport security, despite the sometimes inconvenience, because it is comforting knowing that I am unlikely to be sharing an airplane with a terrorist or terrorists. The scanners do add another layer of security to the whole, and I appreciate what you are saying.

And maybe we have arrived at the point where an electronic strip search is necessary, but even there, it isn't fail safe. A terrorist intent on blowing himself up along with the airplane is probably crazy enough to learn to hide the explosives in body cavities where the scanners can't see.

It's easy to say fire the unethical or unprofessional scanner AFTER your naked body has been plastered all over the internet and you have been thoroughly embarrassed. There must be a better way.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Until such time as we ADMIT who the LIKELY threats are and screen those groups more actively I am ALL for every and any technical gadget that can caught terrorists and criminals. And even when we do if ever start profiling our likely threats those technical items are a boon to security.

Ohh by the way? Post a link to your original claim please.

 

[Nate]

Until such time as we ADMIT who the LIKELY threats are and screen those groups more actively I am ALL for every and any technical gadget that can caught terrorists and criminals. And even when we do if ever start profiling our likely threats those technical items are a boon to security.

Ohh by the way? Post a link to your original claim please.

Not just that, whatever gets me through those damn lines quicker is fine by me.

 

[Gatekeeper]

Well, the least they could provide is a 8X10 Glossy of our scanner pics. I must be sure to bring a cucumber when they take mine.

 

[rightwinger]

This is the third thread on this, but this is from a different side.

We were told that the scanners wouldn't/couldn't be used to check areas that shouldn't be checked, and that the personnel manning them would behave in an adult manner.


During the installation testing of the scanners in Florida,one of the TSA scanners had some facts about his manhood revealed that caused him to be subjected to a great deal of humor from his co workers. So much so that he responded by attacking one of his tormentors with a metal rod.

To me, this is proof that what we were told about the scanners is false. The TSA people are not adult enough to use them properly, and that there is too much humiliation involved for the folks who are run through them.


The crotch bomber was on do not fly lists, on the basis of regular police work done correctly should have been stopped before he even got on the plane in Lagos. Scanners would not have done much more than add one more level of failure.

Do those who supported the scanners have second thoughts yet?

You would count on the No-Fly list to screen out all potential terrorists?

It is easy to find out who is on the No Fly list and who isn't. The scanners will catch things that metal detectors don't. If screeners act unprofessional....Fire Them

Actually I haven't minded increased airport security, despite the sometimes inconvenience, because it is comforting knowing that I am unlikely to be sharing an airplane with a terrorist or terrorists. The scanners do add another layer of security to the whole, and I appreciate what you are saying.

And maybe we have arrived at the point where an electronic strip search is necessary, but even there, it isn't fail safe. A terrorist intent on blowing himself up along with the airplane is probably crazy enough to learn to hide the explosives in body cavities where the scanners can't see.

It's easy to say fire the unethical or unprofessional scanner AFTER your naked body has been plastered all over the internet and you have been thoroughly embarrassed. There must be a better way.

I don't worry about my naked body being plastered all over the internet.....it is not that much to look at.

I think that after a few hours, scanners will be like gynechologists....seen one seen them all

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Strollingbones and Liability already linked to two different stories on this. I am too lazy to look them up.

Rightwinger thinks they can be fired. On what universe do you live that you think you can fire a government employee?

I don't like the idea that we give up our basic rights when we travel.

There were like 6 different failures by US government agencies before the guy got on the plane. I don't think adding one more opportunity for failure is a good idea. You know they will be oggling and comparing breast sizes, making jokes about padded bras and implants, and carrying on generally to notice the guy with the bomb. we have a record of their behavior. It is miserable.

 

[Big Black Dog]

I think we should all have to fly naked. This way it would be pretty evident what you were packing... Any fuses sticking out of any body oriface would cause you to be pulled out of line and probed.

 

[Zander]

I am going to start an airline called "renegade air". There are no security checks for passengers whatsoever, smoking of anything is allowed on all flights, you can use your electronic devices at any time, you can leave your seat back the entire time, seatbelts are not required to be worn, and all passengers are issued a weapon upon boarding.

 

[Foxfyre]

I think we should all have to fly naked. This way it would be pretty evident what you were packing... Any fuses sticking out of any body oriface would cause you to be pulled out of line and probed.

 

[Foxfyre]

I am going to start an airline called "renegade air". There are no security checks for passengers whatsoever, smoking of anything is allowed on all flights, you can use your electronic devices at any time, you can leave your seat back the entire time, seatbelts are not required to be worn, and all passengers are issued a weapon upon boarding.

No releases required to be signed either?

 

[rightwinger]

Strollingbones and Liability already linked to two different stories on this. I am too lazy to look them up.

Rightwinger thinks they can be fired. On what universe do you live that you think you can fire a government employee?

I don't like the idea that we give up our basic rights when we travel.

There were like 6 different failures by US government agencies before the guy got on the plane. I don't think adding one more opportunity for failure is a good idea. You know they will be oggling and comparing breast sizes, making jokes about padded bras and implants, and carrying on generally to notice the guy with the bomb. we have a record of their behavior. It is miserable.

There is no question that TSA employees who laugh at people being screened or post their images on the internet will be fired........you live in a delusional world