Debate Now Should we give the liberals what they want....what they stand for?

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  1. danielpalos
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    We should not be indulging sloth by the general government. We have an express establishment clause for naturalization, that covers any right wing bigotry of implied immigration.

    All foreign nationals in the US should be known to the general government and federally identified; we should have no illegal problem or an illegal underclass.

    We have an express Commerce Clause and allege to subscribe to Capitalism; we should not be losing money on border policy. We could be upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure to alleviate the pressure on our southern border.

    A yearly fee could keep foreign nationals in the US current along with a fine if necessary. The point here is that by more faithfully executing the most excellent job our Founding Fathers did at the Convention with our federal Constitution and supreme law of the land; we can generate revenue for this government function that provides for the general welfare.

    This makes it much more difficult for any black market which may depend on legal ambiguities.

    And, California should have no prison overcrowding issues during fire season. California militia should be fire suppression qualified as well. Militia service could be in lieu of incarceration for restitution and provide an income.
     
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    Yep Crepitus it's both tragic and comic at the same time.
    If you didn't laugh, you'd cry.
    If you didn't cry, you'd laugh.

    Both the Right to Life and Right to Health Care constitute political beliefs.
    So if you argue for the First Amendment and equal protection of the laws,
    either both need to be treated equally and included in govt policy or both removed and kept private.

    But to endorse and enforce one Creed through govt while denying the other
    is clearly DISCRIMINATION by CREED. We need to recognize this
    and quit dodging around the Elephant (and Donkey) in the room.
    That are standing right in public, declaring their BELIEFS like any other religion.
    Except these are POLITICAL religions which are more dangerous by mixing religious beliefs with mandatory govt for all people.
     
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    Here you go deanrd This is more like it:
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    Quote - Thus conservatives push to go back to enforcing Constitutional LIMITS on Govt

    The world is more complex than it was in the 1700 and it changes thus what work then will not work now. It is called progress

    Government is defined by we the people

    When a faction seizes the government it is up the the other faction to keep it in check or remove the offenders

    To limit the government allows factions to stay in power by controlling the government with no oversight

    Thus government becomes the will of the few in power

    When the great depression hit, it was up to the government to correct the system

    when blacks and woman could not vote it was up to the people to pressure the government to correct that injustice

    When the government seized Indian land there was no one to correct this injustice

    When politicians become corrupt it is up to both sides to get rid of them

    To have a just government requires a strong government with checks and balances that can practice oversight and remove those who break laws

    A just government must be able to correct injustices that appear in the world that we currently live in

    If it requires the government to step in so be it, but there must be checks and balances

    government will change over time, you cannot stand still and go back in time as everyone will pass you by

    The 1700's is history. we are in the 21 century

    People give up something in order to join or be part of the government and there is nothing wrong with requiring the government to give something back
     
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    Uh, I don’t know I’m neither....I’m for Trump


    Btw my name is Dean :)
     
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    a) I guess they’re braggadocio’s.

    b) It was in New Orleans a sanctuary city run by Democrat idiots.

    c) And proud of it.

    I hope you have more than that. Are you just stupid?


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    Not stupid enough to fall for your lame bullshit.
     
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