CDZ Should we apologize to Japan

[The Great Goose]

GENEVA, Feb. 24, 1933 -- The Japanese delegation, defying world opinion, withdrew from the League of Nations Assembly today after the assembly had adopted a report blaming Japan for events in Manchuria.

The stunned international conclave, representing almost every nation on earth, sat in silence while the delegation, led by the dapper Yosuke Matsuoka, clad in black, walked from the hall. The crowded galleries broke into mingled hisses and applause.

Japan's formal resignation from the league is expected to be filed later.

"We are not coming back," Matsuoka said simply as he left the hall.

The assembly's report, recommending that Japan withdraw her troops occupying Manchuria and restore the country to Chinese sovereignty, was adopted, 42 to 1, Japan voting against it. Paul Hymans, presiding, announced it was unanimous, since the vote of interested parties does not count.

The session which made history, signifying the final break between the league and one of the world's major powers, was fairly brief and simple.

As the roll was called down the alphabetical list of nations, delegate after delegate voted for the resolution.

When China was called, there was a slight stir of expectancy and W. W. Yen, Chinese delegate, firmly answered:

"Yes."

Japan was called a few moments later. Matsuoka's decisive "no" could be clearly heard in all parts of the hall.

Summer Thoughts 65 Years after WW2 Compassion, Sympathy, and Understanding : Opinion : Chuo Online : YOMIURI ONLINE

Let that be a lesson to you.

Should we apologize to Japan for destroying their empire?

Summer 65 Years after WW2

Now we find ourselves in yet another hot summer 65 years after WW2. After the end of my final Communication Theory class, one of the specialized lectures that I teach, I happened to learn that two of the female students who had questions for me were from Hiroshima and Nagasaki. This made me think even more about the summer of war 65 years ago and the situation afterward. What led to the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Are we really able to find further significance behind Hiroshima and Nagasaki than merely considering what occurred as tragic?

Understanding, Compassion, and Sympathy

I wonder what we have come to understand about Okinawa. Of course, I imagine there are many people who are aware that over 70 percent of the US military bases in Japan are located on Okinawa. Although there are most likely many people who feel compassion for Okinawa, or more specifically, who feel sorry for Okinawans, there are probably few who are capable of sympathizingwith them. In other words, there are few people who are able to feel the pain themselves, just as the Okinawans do. Upon reflection, I feel that this is true. This is because compassion and sympathyare not the same things at all-on the contrary, they are substantively different. Put simply, feelingcompassion involves viewing a situation from a different standpoint or from a higher position than those who are suffering. By doing this, people act as if they understand something about the situation. Feeling sympathy, in contrast, means to deeply understand the issues firsthand and experience the problems and suffering for ourselves.

So what exactly do we know about Okinawa in the first place? For example, even if we feel sorry for the Okinawans, there are surprisingly many people who think it would be a problem if all the bases were taken out of Okinawa since the local economy is dependent upon them. There is more than likely a significant difference between the large estimate that the majority of people make regarding the income gained from the military bases in the Okinawan economy and the actual income gained from the bases. In fact, however, the current Okinawan economy is predominantly driven by tourism, with military bases accounting for only some five percent of total revenues. In pure economic or financial terms, this means that Okinawa could survive without revenue from military bases.

Was Japan REALLY trying to build an "evil empire" or were they simply just trying to get ahead? Maybe we all were suffering from tall poppy syndrome. After all, it wouldn't be the first time Japan was punished for trying to be equal...

 

[Anathema]

NO. Hell No. Japan committed an unprovoked attack on US soil oN December 7, 1941. They declared War on US, not the other way around. They just picked a fight they couldn't win.

I was taught in my youth to never pick a fight I couldn't or wasn't prepared to do everythibg necessary to win. Japan made that mistake and paid a costly price for it, as they should have.

 

[waltky]

Uncle Ferd says, "Yea - an' it oughta go sumpin' like dis...

... Sorry `bout dat...

... but now ya know what ya gonna get...

... ever' time ya go sneaky attackin' us."

(Granny eyein' dat goose...

... like, Wouldn't he make a lovely Sunday dinner?)

 

[irosie91]

I apologize to Japan for not liking sushi-------or is that tasteless cold raw fish
"sashimi"? It looks nice-------but it is just tasteless cold mush. I understand
that it is ARTISTIC STUFF--------and I am SUPPOSED TO CRAVE IT------but
I just do not

 

[The Great Goose]

NO. Hell No. Japan committed an unprovoked attack on US soil oN December 7, 1941. They declared War on US, not the other way around. They just picked a fight they couldn't win.

I was taught in my youth to never pick a fight I couldn't or wasn't prepared to do everythibg necessary to win. Japan made that mistake and paid a costly price for it, as they should have.

It's important to note the vastly different culture, between Westerners, and Japan. Perhaps we offended them? Maybe they needed our countries more than we do ourselves? After all, haven't we now learned, in these enlightened days, that if a nation needs to spread out a bit, it's the decent thing to make allowances for that? For instance, how many members of USMB have Mexican American relatives? And Europe has shown it's willingness to live with Islamic folk. So why the backward thinking about Japan?

 

[Cross]

The US wasn't a member of the League, what is it the US should apologize for?

 

[william the wie]

NO. Hell No. Japan committed an unprovoked attack on US soil oN December 7, 1941. They declared War on US, not the other way around. They just picked a fight they couldn't win.

I was taught in my youth to never pick a fight I couldn't or wasn't prepared to do everythibg necessary to win. Japan made that mistake and paid a costly price for it, as they should have.

Dutch Harbour and the invasion of the Philippines were far worse. Most of the casualties at Pearl were uniformed servicemen not babykabobs as practiced throughout their empire.

 

[The Great Goose]

The US wasn't a member of the League, what is it the US should apologize for?

We all should take our share of the responsibility.

 

[The Great Goose]

NO. Hell No. Japan committed an unprovoked attack on US soil oN December 7, 1941. They declared War on US, not the other way around. They just picked a fight they couldn't win.

I was taught in my youth to never pick a fight I couldn't or wasn't prepared to do everythibg necessary to win. Japan made that mistake and paid a costly price for it, as they should have.

Dutch Harbour and the invasion of the Philippines were far worse. Most of the casualties at Pearl were uniformed servicemen not babykabobs as practiced throughout their empire.

And you don't think that America, being so big and powerful, maybe forced Japan to come after it, via the Philippines?

 

[Wyld Kard]

Should the United States apologize to Japan for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki during the WW2? Absolutely not.

 

[westwall]

GENEVA, Feb. 24, 1933 -- The Japanese delegation, defying world opinion, withdrew from the League of Nations Assembly today after the assembly had adopted a report blaming Japan for events in Manchuria.

The stunned international conclave, representing almost every nation on earth, sat in silence while the delegation, led by the dapper Yosuke Matsuoka, clad in black, walked from the hall. The crowded galleries broke into mingled hisses and applause.

Japan's formal resignation from the league is expected to be filed later.

"We are not coming back," Matsuoka said simply as he left the hall.

The assembly's report, recommending that Japan withdraw her troops occupying Manchuria and restore the country to Chinese sovereignty, was adopted, 42 to 1, Japan voting against it. Paul Hymans, presiding, announced it was unanimous, since the vote of interested parties does not count.

The session which made history, signifying the final break between the league and one of the world's major powers, was fairly brief and simple.

As the roll was called down the alphabetical list of nations, delegate after delegate voted for the resolution.

When China was called, there was a slight stir of expectancy and W. W. Yen, Chinese delegate, firmly answered:

"Yes."

Japan was called a few moments later. Matsuoka's decisive "no" could be clearly heard in all parts of the hall.

Summer Thoughts 65 Years after WW2 Compassion, Sympathy, and Understanding : Opinion : Chuo Online : YOMIURI ONLINE

Let that be a lesson to you.

Should we apologize to Japan for destroying their empire?

Summer 65 Years after WW2

Now we find ourselves in yet another hot summer 65 years after WW2. After the end of my final Communication Theory class, one of the specialized lectures that I teach, I happened to learn that two of the female students who had questions for me were from Hiroshima and Nagasaki. This made me think even more about the summer of war 65 years ago and the situation afterward. What led to the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Are we really able to find further significance behind Hiroshima and Nagasaki than merely considering what occurred as tragic?

Understanding, Compassion, and Sympathy

I wonder what we have come to understand about Okinawa. Of course, I imagine there are many people who are aware that over 70 percent of the US military bases in Japan are located on Okinawa. Although there are most likely many people who feel compassion for Okinawa, or more specifically, who feel sorry for Okinawans, there are probably few who are capable of sympathizingwith them. In other words, there are few people who are able to feel the pain themselves, just as the Okinawans do. Upon reflection, I feel that this is true. This is because compassion and sympathyare not the same things at all-on the contrary, they are substantively different. Put simply, feelingcompassion involves viewing a situation from a different standpoint or from a higher position than those who are suffering. By doing this, people act as if they understand something about the situation. Feeling sympathy, in contrast, means to deeply understand the issues firsthand and experience the problems and suffering for ourselves.

So what exactly do we know about Okinawa in the first place? For example, even if we feel sorry for the Okinawans, there are surprisingly many people who think it would be a problem if all the bases were taken out of Okinawa since the local economy is dependent upon them. There is more than likely a significant difference between the large estimate that the majority of people make regarding the income gained from the military bases in the Okinawan economy and the actual income gained from the bases. In fact, however, the current Okinawan economy is predominantly driven by tourism, with military bases accounting for only some five percent of total revenues. In pure economic or financial terms, this means that Okinawa could survive without revenue from military bases.

Was Japan REALLY trying to build an "evil empire" or were they simply just trying to get ahead? Maybe we all were suffering from tall poppy syndrome. After all, it wouldn't be the first time Japan was punished for trying to be equal...

Not just no....but HECK no!

 

[eagle1462010]

I apologize to Japan for not sending you the Nukes a year earlier............

 

[Likkmee]

Show the Japs a movie of N. Korea every morning from kindergarten forward. By fifth grade they'll demand to fly the American flag above their own.

 

[Cross]

The US wasn't a member of the League, what is it the US should apologize for?

We all should take our share of the responsibility.

Taking responsibility has nothing to with apologizing, rebuilding Japan was taking responsibility. We took our share and dealt them theirs.

 

[The Great Goose]

The US wasn't a member of the League, what is it the US should apologize for?

We all should take our share of the responsibility.

Taking responsibility has nothing to with apologizing, rebuilding Japan was taking responsibility. We took our share and dealt them theirs.

Thats a terrible thing to say!

 

[Wyld Kard]

NO. Hell No. Japan committed an unprovoked attack on US soil oN December 7, 1941. They declared War on US, not the other way around. They just picked a fight they couldn't win.

I was taught in my youth to never pick a fight I couldn't or wasn't prepared to do everythibg necessary to win. Japan made that mistake and paid a costly price for it, as they should have.

It's important to note the vastly different culture, between Westerners, and Japan. Perhaps we offended them? Maybe they needed our countries more than we do ourselves? After all, haven't we now learned, in these enlightened days, that if a nation needs to spread out a bit, it's the decent thing to make allowances for that? For instance, how many members of USMB have Mexican American relatives? And Europe has shown it's willingness to live with Islamic folk. So why the backward thinking about Japan?

It's important to note the vastly different culture, between Westerners, and Japan. Perhaps we offended them? Maybe they needed our countries more than we do ourselves?

It really sounds like you are making excuses and trying to justify why Japan attacked the US, and asking if "we" should apologize for destroying them.

Japan deserves NO APOLOGY.

 

[2aguy]

GENEVA, Feb. 24, 1933 -- The Japanese delegation, defying world opinion, withdrew from the League of Nations Assembly today after the assembly had adopted a report blaming Japan for events in Manchuria.

The stunned international conclave, representing almost every nation on earth, sat in silence while the delegation, led by the dapper Yosuke Matsuoka, clad in black, walked from the hall. The crowded galleries broke into mingled hisses and applause.

Japan's formal resignation from the league is expected to be filed later.

"We are not coming back," Matsuoka said simply as he left the hall.

The assembly's report, recommending that Japan withdraw her troops occupying Manchuria and restore the country to Chinese sovereignty, was adopted, 42 to 1, Japan voting against it. Paul Hymans, presiding, announced it was unanimous, since the vote of interested parties does not count.

The session which made history, signifying the final break between the league and one of the world's major powers, was fairly brief and simple.

As the roll was called down the alphabetical list of nations, delegate after delegate voted for the resolution.

When China was called, there was a slight stir of expectancy and W. W. Yen, Chinese delegate, firmly answered:

"Yes."

Japan was called a few moments later. Matsuoka's decisive "no" could be clearly heard in all parts of the hall.

Summer Thoughts 65 Years after WW2 Compassion, Sympathy, and Understanding : Opinion : Chuo Online : YOMIURI ONLINE

Let that be a lesson to you.

Should we apologize to Japan for destroying their empire?

Summer 65 Years after WW2

Now we find ourselves in yet another hot summer 65 years after WW2. After the end of my final Communication Theory class, one of the specialized lectures that I teach, I happened to learn that two of the female students who had questions for me were from Hiroshima and Nagasaki. This made me think even more about the summer of war 65 years ago and the situation afterward. What led to the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Are we really able to find further significance behind Hiroshima and Nagasaki than merely considering what occurred as tragic?

Understanding, Compassion, and Sympathy

I wonder what we have come to understand about Okinawa. Of course, I imagine there are many people who are aware that over 70 percent of the US military bases in Japan are located on Okinawa. Although there are most likely many people who feel compassion for Okinawa, or more specifically, who feel sorry for Okinawans, there are probably few who are capable of sympathizingwith them. In other words, there are few people who are able to feel the pain themselves, just as the Okinawans do. Upon reflection, I feel that this is true. This is because compassion and sympathyare not the same things at all-on the contrary, they are substantively different. Put simply, feelingcompassion involves viewing a situation from a different standpoint or from a higher position than those who are suffering. By doing this, people act as if they understand something about the situation. Feeling sympathy, in contrast, means to deeply understand the issues firsthand and experience the problems and suffering for ourselves.

So what exactly do we know about Okinawa in the first place? For example, even if we feel sorry for the Okinawans, there are surprisingly many people who think it would be a problem if all the bases were taken out of Okinawa since the local economy is dependent upon them. There is more than likely a significant difference between the large estimate that the majority of people make regarding the income gained from the military bases in the Okinawan economy and the actual income gained from the bases. In fact, however, the current Okinawan economy is predominantly driven by tourism, with military bases accounting for only some five percent of total revenues. In pure economic or financial terms, this means that Okinawa could survive without revenue from military bases.

Was Japan REALLY trying to build an "evil empire" or were they simply just trying to get ahead? Maybe we all were suffering from tall poppy syndrome. After all, it wouldn't be the first time Japan was punished for trying to be equal...

The Japanese were as bad as the nazis...they just get ignored because the left hides socialist murders by trying to lie about the nazis being rightwingers....

Here are some stats on Japanese murder......

STATISTICS OF JAPANESE GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

From the invasion of China in 1937 to the end of World War II, the Japanese military regime murdered near 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most probably almost 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war. This democide was due to a morally bankrupt political and military strategy, military expediency and custom, and national culture (such as the view that those enemy soldiers who surrender while still able to resist were criminals).

 

[2aguy]

NO. Hell No. Japan committed an unprovoked attack on US soil oN December 7, 1941. They declared War on US, not the other way around. They just picked a fight they couldn't win.

I was taught in my youth to never pick a fight I couldn't or wasn't prepared to do everythibg necessary to win. Japan made that mistake and paid a costly price for it, as they should have.

It's important to note the vastly different culture, between Westerners, and Japan. Perhaps we offended them? Maybe they needed our countries more than we do ourselves? After all, haven't we now learned, in these enlightened days, that if a nation needs to spread out a bit, it's the decent thing to make allowances for that? For instance, how many members of USMB have Mexican American relatives? And Europe has shown it's willingness to live with Islamic folk. So why the backward thinking about Japan?

It's important to note the vastly different culture, between Westerners, and Japan. Perhaps we offended them? Maybe they needed our countries more than we do ourselves?

It really sounds like you are making excuses and trying to justify why Japan attacked the US, and asking if "we" should apologize for destroying them.

Japan deserves NO APOLOGY.

The Japanese didn't just attack the U.S. they brutalized innocent people all over asia.....if anyone owes an apology to anyone, Japan should apologize to everyone else first.....

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Better still...

... Japan oughta be apologizin' to us...

... fer startin' the whole shootin' match...

... to begin with."

 

[Jarlaxle]

The Japanese (and the Germans, for that matter) got off WAY too lightly after WW2. Apologize? Hell no.