Should this be a right?

[Skull Pilot]

We don't have a right to take our lives. We didn't give ourselves life. We can't take it away.

And we sure as heck shouldn't allow others to get away with murder.

So who in your opinion owns the right to end a life? The one who gave it? And just who would that be? Your parents?

If i want to kill myself tomorrow, I should be free to do so. if I want to die quietly with dignity rather than waste away in intolerable pain, I should be able to do so.

If a person wants to set the stage for another's desired, peaceful death, it is not murder.

 

[antagon]

We don't have a right to take our lives. We didn't give ourselves life. We can't take it away.

And we sure as heck shouldn't allow others to get away with murder.

we certainly have a natural right to kill ourselves. our social contract is powerless to enforce consequences which the dead can care about. we can only project warnings about what the afterlife might hold or remind about the consequences to one's progeny. should we even bother?

i think the murder/manslaughter issue is dangerous. if compassionate killing was legal, it could be very easily exploited.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

to proactively kill a person is considered murder...so why is your own person excused....?

....supposedly a "natural" right..? ...do animals in nature other than humans knowingly kill themselves...?

 

[manifold]

do animals in nature other than humans knowingly kill themselves...?

Yes

 

[ScreamingEagle]

do animals in nature other than humans knowingly kill themselves...?

Yes

knowingly? can you prove that?

 

[manifold]

do animals in nature other than humans knowingly kill themselves...?

Yes

knowingly? can you prove that?

You've never heard of a sick whale beaching itself?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Yes

knowingly? can you prove that?

You've never heard of a sick whale beaching itself?

yes...but does it beach itself because it doesn't feel well (gets tired of swimming around)....or specifically because it says to itself i am sick so i am going to kill myself...

 

[syrenn]

A persons life is their life and that person has the right to end it when they see fit. I think that assistance should be given when requested in terms of telling them how to do it and giving them what ever is required to accomplish the task.

Here are the drug's, take them or don't take them, their choice. This is the button, push it or don't push it.

 

[George Costanza]

If I was in incurable, constant and very severe pain, and I knew with reasonable certainty that there was nothing anyone could do to ever ease that pain, and some pompous, do-gooder was preventing me from ending it all, I think I would take the do-gooder out and then myself.

What earthly business could it ever be of someone else to tell me I cannot take my own life if I so choose - for WHATEVER reason I may have for doing it?

 

[antagon]

to proactively kill a person is considered murder...so why is your own person excused....?

....supposedly a "natural" right..? ...do animals in nature other than humans knowingly kill themselves...?

suicide is exclusively human as far as i know. i know critters might harm themselves under stress, but that's it. something to do with self-awareness, i'd say. i'd also say that has no bearing on the 'natural' right aspect. society struggles to enforce its social contract, the law, when someone has no value for their life or their rights. suicide, murder suicide even, leaves society no real recourse.

should society bother to attempt a blockade to suicide?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

to proactively kill a person is considered murder...so why is your own person excused....?

....supposedly a "natural" right..? ...do animals in nature other than humans knowingly kill themselves...?

suicide is exclusively human as far as i know. i know critters might harm themselves under stress, but that's it. something to do with self-awareness, i'd say. i'd also say that has no bearing on the 'natural' right aspect. society struggles to enforce its social contract, the law, when someone has no value for their life or their rights. suicide, murder suicide even, leaves society no real recourse.

should society bother to attempt a blockade to suicide?

I think society should emphasize and persue the Culture of Life....not the Culture of Death (as does Obama and the secular progressives)...

 

[Greenbeard]

Sounds more like a culture of unnecessary pain and suffering (imposed on others) for purposes solely of self-righteousness to me.

 

[amrchaos]

First--regardless of what you believe--how can you stop a person from killing themselves?

You posses the ability to kill yourselves. It is an ability that you develop over time--plus no one nor thing can stop you once you are commited to it!


Here we talk about the right to kill oneself! Tell us, dear people, how would you take a right away from an individual? Brainwash them? Throw them into a straitjacket and feed them intravenously? I know keep them from sharp objects, weapons and high places while paying a "medical escort" to keep them within "Living parameters"?

Finally, this arguement about god and suicide rights! If god did not want you to kill yourself, you could not do it! Therefore, god wants man to have the ability to off himself due to it being a god granted gift. Thus suicide is a right. This arguement that man cannot kill himself or should not kill himself is based on emotional fueled delusions! Man can kill himself and some do!

 

[ScreamingEagle]

First--regardless of what you believe--how can you stop a person from killing themselves?

You posses the ability to kill yourselves. It is an ability that you develop over time--plus no one nor thing can stop you once you are commited to it!


Here we talk about the right to kill oneself! Tell us, dear people, how would you take a right away from an individual? Brainwash them? Throw them into a straitjacket and feed them intravenously? I know keep them from sharp objects, weapons and high places while paying a "medical escort" to keep them within "Living parameters"?

Finally, this arguement about god and suicide rights! If god did not want you to kill yourself, you could not do it! Therefore, god wants man to have the ability to off himself due to it being a god granted gift. Thus suicide is a right. This arguement that man cannot kill himself or should not kill himself is based on emotional fueled delusions! Man can kill himself and some do!

Totally preventing everybody from killing themseves would be impossible....that's why i said society should emphasize the culture of Life....prevention is half the battle...

suicide "rights"? Is not God the one and only One who has dominion over our human lives..? If a man has the "right" to kill himself....could not another man also have that "right"?

But if you don't believe in God....you can believe anything you choose....like Obama and the seculars...who believe in their culture of Death...

 

[antagon]

to proactively kill a person is considered murder...so why is your own person excused....?

....supposedly a "natural" right..? ...do animals in nature other than humans knowingly kill themselves...?

suicide is exclusively human as far as i know. i know critters might harm themselves under stress, but that's it. something to do with self-awareness, i'd say. i'd also say that has no bearing on the 'natural' right aspect. society struggles to enforce its social contract, the law, when someone has no value for their life or their rights. suicide, murder suicide even, leaves society no real recourse.

should society bother to attempt a blockade to suicide?

I think society should emphasize and persue the Culture of Life....not the Culture of Death (as does Obama and the secular progressives)...

obama wants to bring about a culture of death? that's richer than average. the law will bring about a culture of life?

i think that lazy righteous folks should get off their asses and change the hearts of men, rather than pressing government to do all the work for them, in turn shrinking the freedom which everyone else might enjoy.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

obama wants to bring about a culture of death? that's richer than average.

"Who would oppose a bill that said you couldn't kill a baby who was born? Not Kennedy, Boxer or Hillary Rodham Clinton. Not even the hard-core National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL). Obama, however, is another story.

Barack Obama and the Culture of Death - Rick Santorum's Take (What's Wrong with the World)

 

[Greenbeard]

Is not God the one and only One who has dominion over our human lives..?

This is your rationale for opposing someone being able to seek medical assistance in ending their own life?

 

[Truthmatters]

First--regardless of what you believe--how can you stop a person from killing themselves?

You posses the ability to kill yourselves. It is an ability that you develop over time--plus no one nor thing can stop you once you are commited to it!


Here we talk about the right to kill oneself! Tell us, dear people, how would you take a right away from an individual? Brainwash them? Throw them into a straitjacket and feed them intravenously? I know keep them from sharp objects, weapons and high places while paying a "medical escort" to keep them within "Living parameters"?

Finally, this arguement about god and suicide rights! If god did not want you to kill yourself, you could not do it! Therefore, god wants man to have the ability to off himself due to it being a god granted gift. Thus suicide is a right. This arguement that man cannot kill himself or should not kill himself is based on emotional fueled delusions! Man can kill himself and some do!

Totally preventing everybody from killing themseves would be impossible....that's why i said society should emphasize the culture of Life....prevention is half the battle...

suicide "rights"? Is not God the one and only One who has dominion over our human lives..? If a man has the "right" to kill himself....could not another man also have that "right"?

But if you don't believe in God....you can believe anything you choose....like Obama and the seculars...who believe in their culture of Death...

This is why there is a sepration of churh and state, so you can not force YOUR religion on your fellow Americans.

Go move to a country where they rule by religion if you do not like a secular country like ours

 

[ScreamingEagle]

First--regardless of what you believe--how can you stop a person from killing themselves?

You posses the ability to kill yourselves. It is an ability that you develop over time--plus no one nor thing can stop you once you are commited to it!


Here we talk about the right to kill oneself! Tell us, dear people, how would you take a right away from an individual? Brainwash them? Throw them into a straitjacket and feed them intravenously? I know keep them from sharp objects, weapons and high places while paying a "medical escort" to keep them within "Living parameters"?

Finally, this arguement about god and suicide rights! If god did not want you to kill yourself, you could not do it! Therefore, god wants man to have the ability to off himself due to it being a god granted gift. Thus suicide is a right. This arguement that man cannot kill himself or should not kill himself is based on emotional fueled delusions! Man can kill himself and some do!

Totally preventing everybody from killing themseves would be impossible....that's why i said society should emphasize the culture of Life....prevention is half the battle...

suicide "rights"? Is not God the one and only One who has dominion over our human lives..? If a man has the "right" to kill himself....could not another man also have that "right"?

But if you don't believe in God....you can believe anything you choose....like Obama and the seculars...who believe in their culture of Death...

This is why there is a sepration of churh and state, so you can not force YOUR religion on your fellow Americans.

Go move to a country where they rule by religion if you do not like a secular country like ours

Nope....those are beliefs.....whether or not they are part of a religion or religions does not matter....each citizen is entitled to his own personal beliefs.....and they can be reflected in the law if enough people believe in them to vote for them...because no state religion is being established....

Secularists like you try to label anything you don't like as "establishing religion" in order to get rid of it...