Should there be campaign finance and other political ad limitations?

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Should there be campaign finance and other political ad limitations?

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  3. Yes, but not candidates themselves

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  1. Yurt
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    While political speech is one of our most treasured freedoms, it is becoming apparent that unlimited campaign spending, and now seemingly unlimited political ad spending by corps, unions or other groups, has created an atmosphere of 24/7 campaigning. we weren't even finished with obama's first year and already there is talk about who is the next gop presidential candidate. congressman, senators and even the president have to basically campaign their entire term instead of working more on the job they were hired to do. obama spent over half a billion dollars on his campaign.

    should there be limits on everyone, candidates, corps, unions, political parties? would these limits stop what is seemingly an excessive amount of campaigning by all parties/candidates? and would this foster a more open and fair election system?
     
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    No!
     
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    I personally think that no one, no thing and no organization/company should be allowed to give more then 100 dollars to any candidate. Including both Political parties.

    Also, no candidate can give to himself more then 100 dollars. No loans, no withdraws from the old checking account. None of it.

    As for political ads....that is speech and is open to anyone. But if you want to curb corporations...then you curb everything else. Including political parties AND GOVERNMENT! Government should never be allowed to advocate on its own behalf, ever.
     
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    You would also have to include the media. They cannot openly, privately or quietly advocate for any political candidate.
     
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    How would you decide what qualified as "quietly advocating"? How about "privately advocating"?
     
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    Speech I'm all for.

    I disagree with the precedent that money = speech.
     
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    Anything that reported anything but provable facts with no embellishment. In other words, no editorializing.
     
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    No limits for anyone, full disclosure for everyone.

    Money does not equal speech, but no limits on money for speech. (for the same reason there is no limit on money for rent or food or vacations or pet rocks) Money is just a tool and nothing more. Don't care if someone spends it for tv ads, NYT's full page ads, yardsigns or posterboard and magic markers for demonstrators.
     
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    When the day comes that Congress is unpaid, part time work and they only meet once a month and pass one new law every 2 years or so, then yeah, limiting ads might make sense.

    But as long as the federal Gubbamint is the biggest organization on the planet and consuming 28% of GDP...no fucking way we cap anything
     
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    what precedent is that?
     

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