Should the mods/admins enforce Zone 2 Rules in the Politics Forum?

[Wake]

Every group has its bad apples.

 

[Nutz]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...f-child-pornography-next-on-lefts-agenda.html

This is what makes this a racist forum! Not the topic...but threads derived from articles from The Daily Stormer? Then teaper participants in that thread attacking a liberal and calling her a racist for pointing it out.

And its front and center in the Politics forum! I bet you McGarrett is recruiting racists to join his cause, using USMB as his vehicle. Just the white nationalist use Tea Party events to recruit.

 

[saveliberty]

No, not at all. MANY people think that Teapers are racist...it just isn't me. Don't you think that sort of destroys the movement...which is admirable (their published ideals)? I believe Teapers destroy the GOP and I look forward to the day they start their armed revolution...and are eliminated.

You can't even use their real name, it is almost like you are a hater. Careful it is a slippery slope to being a racist.

No, I am just lazy. It is easier to type teaper than Tea Partier and it makes sense.

Yes, lazy, I see. So you create a derogatory term and apply it to a group of people. Just like the n-word huh?

 

[Nutz]

You can't even use their real name, it is almost like you are a hater. Careful it is a slippery slope to being a racist.

No, I am just lazy. It is easier to type teaper than Tea Partier and it makes sense.

Yes, lazy, I see. So you create a derogatory term and apply it to a group of people. Just like the n-word huh?

How is a made up word derogatory? Again Tea Partier - Teaper

Would it make you happy if I spelled it like this:

TeaPer?

What nonsense. Then again, I remember a Teaper lecturing me about the N word...saying it is just a word - get over it.

 

[saveliberty]

Indeed, the n-word is a made up word too. Why so offensive to you? Hate blinds, that is why it is wrong for racists and wrong for you.

 

[Nutz]

Indeed, the n-word is a made up word too. Why so offensive to you? Hate blinds, that is why it is wrong for racists and wrong for you.

The N word is used to belittle and attack. Teaper is nothing more than a generic description that has no power unless it is modified with an adjective.

 

[Gracie]

Politics is NEVER going to be for calm debate or discussion. Ever. Never ever. So to expect the staff to be mommies is crazy and unfair to THEM.

Hell, y'all can't even discuss this topic without the same o same o.

 

[Gracie]

Here's a thought. Why not start your own board, whomever demands this place conform to what they want it to be? Oh. Wait. It would be an empty board.

 

[Nutz]

Politics is NEVER going to be for calm debate or discussion. Ever. Never ever. So to expect the staff to be mommies is crazy and unfair to THEM.

Hell, y'all can't even discuss this topic without the same o same o.

No one says it needs to be calm. It doesn't even need to be tempered...just less of the personal attacks and racism.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

No, I am just lazy. It is easier to type teaper than Tea Partier and it makes sense.

Yes, lazy, I see. So you create a derogatory term and apply it to a group of people. Just like the n-word huh?

How is a made up word derogatory? Again Tea Partier - Teaper

Would it make you happy if I spelled it like this:

TeaPer?

What nonsense. Then again, I remember a Teaper lecturing me about the N word...saying it is just a word - get over it.

"teaper" isn't derogatory.

Now, what I call them ... THAT is derogatory.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I will take the left serious on this board when they roundly condemn and stop feeding their own idiots. Rdean, Luddly and a host of others. Usually when the left wants action it only wants action against its so called enemies and expects its side to be exempt.

As to flames, some of the supposed flames are nothing more then responses to some of the most idiotic statements one can imagine. For example we have one poster that thinks it is cute to change Is to Ys cause she is idiotic. We have several lefty posters that insult in the title of the thread and nothing happens. In fact when you complain about it the mods ignore it. These posters threads are insulting and attack threads posted in politics and supported by the rest of the lefties.

Tepper, teapotter teabagger are all derogatory terms and no one on the left minds using them at all and mods do nothing about it.

We have several lefties that are so delusional that EVERY single poster that disagrees with them is called a teabagger.

 

[Wake]

No, I am just lazy. It is easier to type teaper than Tea Partier and it makes sense.

Yes, lazy, I see. So you create a derogatory term and apply it to a group of people. Just like the n-word huh?

How is a made up word derogatory? Again Tea Partier - Teaper

Would it make you happy if I spelled it like this:

TeaPer?

What nonsense. Then again, I remember a Teaper lecturing me about the N word...saying it is just a word - get over it.

It's another one of those stupid, partisan slang words used by weak debaters to insult and anger those of opposing political affiliations. Call a Tea Partier a Tea Partier, and a Liberal a Liberal, and on. I wouldn't advise the BS'ing of whining about names and personal insults, while using political insults and derogatory slang. It's hypocritical, and hurts your cause.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

In the end, I would say no personal insults outside of the flame zone! Allowing the flaming everywhere just takes it from thread to thread with no end.

Why should everyone talk nice just because you can't take an insult or two? Most of the insults tossed around this board aren't meant to be taken seriously. I can insult people in one post and praise them in the very next one. Adults should understand that. The problem isn't the insults, it is the idea that the Politics section is a catch all for anything people want to post. Although everything can be related to politics, not everything deserves to be.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

No flaming in a political forum? lol. Good luck with that. Politics, religion, abortion...the 3 MAIN volatile subjects with very strong opinions.

If folks could address the post and not the poster...that would be good but it rarely EVER happens.

Sometimes the poster needs to be addressed.

 

[Nutz]

Yes, lazy, I see. So you create a derogatory term and apply it to a group of people. Just like the n-word huh?

How is a made up word derogatory? Again Tea Partier - Teaper

Would it make you happy if I spelled it like this:

TeaPer?

What nonsense. Then again, I remember a Teaper lecturing me about the N word...saying it is just a word - get over it.

It's another one of those stupid, partisan slang words used by weak debaters to insult and anger those of opposing political affiliations. Call a Tea Partier a Tea Partier, and a Liberal a Liberal, and on. I wouldn't advise the BS'ing of whining about names and personal insults, while using political insults and derogatory slang. It's hypocritical, and hurts your cause.

I will continue to use the word Teaper. It is my word, it is not deragotory, it is not partisan. My political ideology is close to Teaperism...I would support teapers if it weren't a movement motivated by hate. I would support Teapers if they stood up to the racists that dominate their bully pulpit. So I will continue to use the term Teaper and any derivative thereof.

 

[Nutz]

In the end, I would say no personal insults outside of the flame zone! Allowing the flaming everywhere just takes it from thread to thread with no end.

Why should everyone talk nice just because you can't take an insult or two? Most of the insults tossed around this board aren't meant to be taken seriously. I can insult people in one post and praise them in the very next one. Adults should understand that. The problem isn't the insults, it is the idea that the Politics section is a catch all for anything people want to post. Although everything can be related to politics, not everything deserves to be.

I can take an insult....I can insult one day and be buddy buddy the next. There are many members here that share that ideology with me. But call me a porch monkey, ******, or whatever other colorful term to my face...I will stomp you. Tell me all black people are stupid to my face, I will warn you. You do it again...I will stomp you.

It's pretty simple...there is a different between calling someone a fucking idiot, cocksucker, dickhead, douchebag, stupid...and spewing racist hate from behind a keyboard.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Go with the pink. Decency will bring in more members than those who get expelled. What makes you think people won't go pink in a cdz politics forum.

If the pink option is chosen, probably more than half the USMB membership will get gone. If I am wrong, please correct me. Forums need traffic, so nuking more than 30% of your membership quickly goes against that. Personally I would subtly and gradually change the forum, making the atmosphere increasingly inhospitable for trolls, partisan hacks, and the like. Take out some of the more vocal trolls and hacks first, increasing the rate ever so slightly over time, and with every nudge people will adapt to the change.

Maybe.

Sometimes it takes healing a problem slowly, than taking a drastic action early on. People who go to the CDZ and break the rules—knowingly or not—are undoubtedly dealt with by staff.

You have no faith in your fellow members. Rule with an iron fist...root out those who won't follow the rules and everything will come down. Most people that get into the flame wars around here are only responding in kind. Get rid of the idiots and quality members will come. Or, keep it the same and we will get more new members like warwulf. Again, it comes down to what kind of forum the admins want.

If you want a board where everyone agrees with your bullshit I have plenty of suggestions for you. This place works because people can express themselves without worrying about the boot of tyranny coming down on their throats. Feel free to go to a pace where you can say stupid things and not get called on it if you don't like it here.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

But, but DUDE! You would be one of the first!

Nah...I can follow the rules...if you recall, when I first came on board...I was nice. The wild west nature of USMB and the rampant racism is why I changed.

That's true for a lot of us. I agree that if the board were cleaned, we'd get a higher class of clientele.

Please, admin, mods, please end the garbage.


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This from one of the biggest flamers on the board.

Careful what you wish for.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Go with the pink...adding a forum will fix nothing. If pinkies don't learn...then they will forever be pink and the forum is improved.

Forums rely on traffic.

I've seen a forum try to do that on a gaming/TCG forum back in 2005, but it failed. The perpetual troublemakers and louts came back under various accounts, and a lot of those classless people reacted angrily to their trolling getting them banned.

The trolling is a problem. I can't have a quality discussion without two or more partisans/trolls wrecking the thread. A secondary forum like the one WestWall mentioned would be a step in the right direction, and I would frequent that part quite a bit.

I agree; hyper-partisan trolls do ruin good threads. I can't stand it when they waltz right into a pyrfyctly good, reasonable discussion and begin spewing their hatred everywhere. It's an abomination to the high level of intellectual discourse some of us are capable of.

That said, what would be posted in the Politics CDZ that can't be posted in the CDZ we have already?

I haven't seen you calling out any of the hatred from the left over Hobby Lobby and Citizen's United.

 

[Nutz]

If the pink option is chosen, probably more than half the USMB membership will get gone. If I am wrong, please correct me. Forums need traffic, so nuking more than 30% of your membership quickly goes against that. Personally I would subtly and gradually change the forum, making the atmosphere increasingly inhospitable for trolls, partisan hacks, and the like. Take out some of the more vocal trolls and hacks first, increasing the rate ever so slightly over time, and with every nudge people will adapt to the change.

Maybe.

Sometimes it takes healing a problem slowly, than taking a drastic action early on. People who go to the CDZ and break the rules—knowingly or not—are undoubtedly dealt with by staff.

You have no faith in your fellow members. Rule with an iron fist...root out those who won't follow the rules and everything will come down. Most people that get into the flame wars around here are only responding in kind. Get rid of the idiots and quality members will come. Or, keep it the same and we will get more new members like warwulf. Again, it comes down to what kind of forum the admins want.

If you want a board where everyone agrees with your bullshit I have plenty of suggestions for you. This place works because people can express themselves without worrying about the boot of tyranny coming down on their throats. Feel free to go to a pace where you can say stupid things and not get called on it if you don't like it here.

I don't need people to agree with me. I don't care if I am insulted. You should pay attention. There are many members on this forum who I enjoy talking shit too and vice versa. Regretfully, there is a bunch that take it too seriously and get butthurt and there is a BIG group who take advantage of that freedom to spew racist nonsense.