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And the explosion of federal and state bureaucracies, which have sucked trillions out of the private sector and produced next to nothing of value for the overall economy, since the early part of the last century has nothing at all to do with this, does it?Unions are running this country into the ground.
What we're seeing is what happens when anyone dares to stop them.
Funny then that middle-class pay keeps going down, and rich people keep getting much, much richer.
It seems to me that since Management and Executive salaries have gone up at a FAR greater rate than union salaries in the past 50 years, that it is in fact the Executives that can be blamed more for "driving this country into the ground".
And the explosion of federal and state bureaucracies, which have sucked trillions out of the private sector and produced next to nothing of value for the overall economy, since the early part of the last century has nothing at all to do with this, does it?
And the explosion of federal and state bureaucracies, which have sucked trillions out of the private sector and produced next to nothing of value for the overall economy, since the early part of the last century has nothing at all to do with this, does it?
Corporate profits are currently at all time highs, yet they are not hiring in the US.
Instead they are hiring in Cambodia and Vietnam...
This is kind of weird. The poll results are, currently, 21-0.
Either this is an echo chamber, or liberals are embarassed at the question.
Unions in Government only benefit themselves and Democrats. They fuck the Taxpayer over every chance they get. Taxpayers just need to stand up and take charge. These Unions work for the Taxpayers. It's not the other way around. They just have too much power now. Unions just don't belong in Government. Hopefully more Americans are seeing this. It's time to check their power.
This is kind of weird. The poll results are, currently, 21-0.
Either this is an echo chamber, or liberals are embarassed at the question.
It's a stupid question, there's no point to it. It's a matter of apples and oranges.
It's like asking "Should a glass of milk be harder than a religion?".
The only person that should be embarrassed by that question is the person asking it.
Unions in Government only benefit themselves and Democrats. They fuck the Taxpayer over every chance they get. Taxpayers just need to stand up and take charge. These Unions work for the Taxpayers. It's not the other way around. They just have too much power now. Unions just don't belong in Government. Hopefully more Americans are seeing this. It's time to check their power.
Let me ask you Libo, what do you think a fair salary for your kids teacher should be? Give us a round number.
This is kind of weird. The poll results are, currently, 21-0.
Either this is an echo chamber, or liberals are embarassed at the question.
Simple-minded question in that it's a False Choice. What about approaching the bargaining table as equals?
Equals?
Unions represent a finite number of people in the state of Wi.
The government represents every person in the state of Wi.
Not quite a simple minded question.
It doesn't matter if it were only one person. If you're talking inequality, you're talking unAmerican in my book.
No, it's a fair question. The unions have given a lot of money to the democrat party that has in return empowered the unions. I mean, look at the democrats that left the state so there wouldn't be a vote, that is power for the unions.
You should be embarrassed to not be able to see it, or your not honest enough to admit it.
No, it's a fair question. The unions have given a lot of money to the democrat party that has in return empowered the unions. I mean, look at the democrats that left the state so there wouldn't be a vote, that is power for the unions.
You should be embarrassed to not be able to see it, or your not honest enough to admit it.
Okay, first of all there is no "democrat" party, unless someone has started a new party that I'm not aware of.
The name of the party is the "Democratic Party". Say it right, or don't bother to say it at all.
Secondly, unionization is a core belief of the Democratic Party. The Unions don't have to pay the politicians, their entire basic platform is based around having unions exist. It's a core belief, like Republicans believe in unlimited Corporate power.
Finally, and most to the point there is no basis for a comparison of power between unions and government, because their spheres of control are completely unrelated. As I said, it's an "Apples and Oranges" comparison.
And the state government's aren't? The government is the biggest culprit for states going bankrupt-not unions.
Then, who's taxes are paying for the unfunded benefit and pension contracts? Not the unions. I never said that it was the unions alone that are doing it, but "helping" to do it. There are cuts going on throughout state budgets, but it seems the unions are "untouchable"?
Why not just renegociate the contracts? Why eliminate ther right to collective bargaining?
I'll bet there are some ways to trim the budget without eliminating workers rights.
On the backs of the tax payers....your forgot the tax payers.Then, who's taxes are paying for the unfunded benefit and pension contracts? Not the unions. I never said that it was the unions alone that are doing it, but "helping" to do it. There are cuts going on throughout state budgets, but it seems the unions are "untouchable"?
Why not just renegociate the contracts? Why eliminate ther right to collective bargaining?
I'll bet there are some ways to trim the budget without eliminating workers rights.
Because they are pussy and have no backbone. Collective Bargaining is the right ot NEGOTIATE their wages, benefits, and other things.
If they can't negotiate because they skip that day in common sense class, then they shouldn't get mad when they get taken to the cleaners.
On the backs of the tax payers....your forgot the tax payers.Why not just renegociate the contracts? Why eliminate ther right to collective bargaining?
I'll bet there are some ways to trim the budget without eliminating workers rights.
Because they are pussy and have no backbone. Collective Bargaining is the right ot NEGOTIATE their wages, benefits, and other things.
If they can't negotiate because they skip that day in common sense class, then they shouldn't get mad when they get taken to the cleaners.
You forget that there is an unfunded portion to the benefits...there lies the rub.
On the backs of the tax payers....your forgot the tax payers.Because they are pussy and have no backbone. Collective Bargaining is the right ot NEGOTIATE their wages, benefits, and other things.
If they can't negotiate because they skip that day in common sense class, then they shouldn't get mad when they get taken to the cleaners.
You forget that there is an unfunded portion to the benefits...there lies the rub.
THEY AGREED TO THE CUTS!!!!
They made that concession and Walker is too much of a pussy to actually negotiate because then Wisconsin will realize if they haven't already that he is a retard.
Unions aren't this horrible monster, they will agree to cuts if it keeps the jobs in place. UAW did it during the Spring of 2009 taking a 50% cut. The majority believe in shared sacrifice, but when you take away the power for us to negotiate our rights and leave it up to people who don't have our best interest at heart, you hurt us and our means to provide a living for our family.
This is a purely politcal move. The Democrats will stay away for as long as it takes. We will fight till the bitter end.
