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Strange, I didn't see anywhere on your link where there was an expert saying that they had every confidence that it wasn't MORE dangerous to be on that part of the ocean at this time of year than at others.
I posted a link to a person actually saying "this was the wrong time of year for her to be in that part of the ocean", meaning an expert says she made the wrong decision, although I still think it was actually her dad's decision not her own, that is a different argument.
Same with the boat size, the expert said a 40 ' boat is TOO small to be in open water in that part of the ocean on its own. You have not posted a differing opinion, another bad decision.
I am glad that you didn't bother arguing about Geraldo reporting that boat wasn't properly repaired.
By the way , 30' seas are the norm in that ocean, but at this time of year 50 ' waves are even more common.
How sad to limit the human experience to what experts have say. Shall we go over what experts have had to say over the centuries?
Boat size is a none issue. Smaller boats have navigated the pacific and the waters that abby got into trouble.
The fact is that many people can and do make this voyage and secede. They are all brave in the attempt.
The attempt may be stupid to you but it is a dream for others.
Way to totally misinterpret what I have said. As an ADULT you have the right to do any stupid thing you want, as long as it does not endanger others. By that VERY definition you are not allowed to do stupid things that enraged others , agreed?
Just answer that simple question. Do you , or do you not agree that adluts are not entitled to take stupid risks which endanger other people?
Did abby endanger anyone? Did she risk anyone else's life but her own?
To answer your question. No one has the right to UNKNOWINGLY endanger anyone else in any fashion. If you knowingly accept the danger then no blame can be levied.
Both abby and her parents understood and excepted the risks involved. All parties involved knew that this could be a one way trip.
No I don't believe I misinterpreted your post. I don't believe you understood the possible ramifications of your statements.
Abby, as a CHILD doesn't have the rights that an adult has. There are MANY activities that a child is deemed not ready to choose to do. Can a child gamble? Nope. Can a child gamble? Nope. Can a child skydive? Nope. Why not?
And anyway it's irrelevant b/c her PARENTS are the one who let her take part in this, she didn't decide on her own. Being as that is the FACT her parents do not have the right to put someone else, even their child , into an inherently dangerous situation.
Or maybe you view children as property one can do whatever they want with. Sure sounds like it.
Yes, I recall how Palin and other cons took offense at the term, "retarded".He is not the only one out there.....hes not alone
It would be S O O O boring without the retards ...
Gunny! please
They are Developmentally challenged
Yes, I recall how Palin and other cons took offense at the term, "retarded".It would be S O O O boring without the retards ...
Gunny! please
They are Developmentally challenged
Abby, as a CHILD doesn't have the rights that an adult has. There are MANY activities that a child is deemed not ready to choose to do. Can a child gamble? Nope. Can a child gamble? Nope. Can a child skydive? Nope. Why not?
And anyway it's irrelevant b/c her PARENTS are the one who let her take part in this, she didn't decide on her own. Being as that is the FACT her parents do not have the right to put someone else, even their child , into an inherently dangerous situation.
Or maybe you view children as property one can do whatever they want with. Sure sounds like it.
Abbys parents do not deem her a CHILD. If HER parents allow her to go it is none of our business. You are NOT Abbys father to make the call if she is a child or adult.
How do YOU know she didn't decide this for herself? How do you know she didn't beg and plead to do this voyage? Do you speak to her regular?
Parents put their children in dangerous situations every day. They send them to school. They put them in cars. All activities have risks and dangers. The question is if you can handle them.
You are truly stupid. Abby's parents have no say in determining whether she is a child or not. Society decides that, if they don't like being part of American society they should move somewhere where society has determined that 16 is an adult, b/c the USA isn't that place. (Actually I am not 100% right there, they do have SOME say, they could try to elect officials who will change the laws.)Abby, as a CHILD doesn't have the rights that an adult has. There are MANY activities that a child is deemed not ready to choose to do. Can a child gamble? Nope. Can a child gamble? Nope. Can a child skydive? Nope. Why not?
And anyway it's irrelevant b/c her PARENTS are the one who let her take part in this, she didn't decide on her own. Being as that is the FACT her parents do not have the right to put someone else, even their child , into an inherently dangerous situation.
Or maybe you view children as property one can do whatever they want with. Sure sounds like it.
Abbys parents do not deem her a CHILD. If HER parents allow her to go it is none of our business. You are NOT Abbys father to make the call if she is a child or adult.
How do YOU know she didn't decide this for herself? How do you know she didn't beg and plead to do this voyage? Do you speak to her regular?
Parents put their children in dangerous situations every day. They send them to school. They put them in cars. All activities have risks and dangers. The question is if you can handle them.
Again, for a simple comparison, try taking your 16 y/o child to Vegas and convincing a casino that in your opinion your child is mature enough to gamble.
Oh, I almost forgot to address the crying and begging. My two year old begs for ice cream every night before dinner, but you know what? As her PARENT I make the , correct, decision that children are some times ill equipped to decide what is best for them and sometimes I have to say no.
Abbys parents do not deem her a CHILD. If HER parents allow her to go it is none of our business. You are NOT Abbys father to make the call if she is a child or adult.
How do YOU know she didn't decide this for herself? How do you know she didn't beg and plead to do this voyage? Do you speak to her regular?
Parents put their children in dangerous situations every day. They send them to school. They put them in cars. All activities have risks and dangers. The question is if you can handle them.
Again, for a simple comparison, try taking your 16 y/o child to Vegas and convincing a casino that in your opinion your child is mature enough to gamble.
Oh, I almost forgot to address the crying and begging. My two year old begs for ice cream every night before dinner, but you know what? As her PARENT I make the , correct, decision that children are some times ill equipped to decide what is best for them and sometimes I have to say no.
In my opinion 16 is not a child, it is a young adult. I assume Abbys parents feel the same.
It is not legal for anyone under age to gamble. It is however legal to participate in sports with parental consent.
It is legal to do LOTS of things at 16, that doesn't make one an adult. You are patently wrong on this matter. In the USA at age 16 you are considered a MINOR and under your parents "jurisdiction" unless you have went to court and became emancipated.
If instead of being "brave, strong, self sufficient and blah blah blah" Abby had chosen to vandalize the local high school , for instance, who would have had to foot the bill for that?
It is legal to do LOTS of things at 16, that doesn't make one an adult. You are patently wrong on this matter. In the USA at age 16 you are considered a MINOR and under your parents "jurisdiction" unless you have went to court and became emancipated.
If instead of being "brave, strong, self sufficient and blah blah blah" Abby had chosen to vandalize the local high school , for instance, who would have had to foot the bill for that?
*sigh*
Breathe conhog. Read what you say. Abby is under HER parents jurisdiction. And HER parents allowed her to go. We have no say in THEIR decisions. OUR decisions do not apply to HER. She is no OURS to decide for.
Do refugees on rickety boats foot the bill of rescue? Do sport fisherman foot the bill when they founder and are adrift? All of these adults knowingly went to sea.
It is legal to do LOTS of things at 16, that doesn't make one an adult. You are patently wrong on this matter. In the USA at age 16 you are considered a MINOR and under your parents "jurisdiction" unless you have went to court and became emancipated.
If instead of being "brave, strong, self sufficient and blah blah blah" Abby had chosen to vandalize the local high school , for instance, who would have had to foot the bill for that?
*sigh*
Breathe conhog. Read what you say. Abby is under HER parents jurisdiction. And HER parents allowed her to go. We have no say in THEIR decisions. OUR decisions do not apply to HER. She is no OURS to decide for.
Do refugees on rickety boats foot the bill of rescue? Do sport fisherman foot the bill when they founder and are adrift? All of these adults knowingly went to sea.
i think the kid did a brave thing...and gunny is correct why do we keep kids ...like we do...other countries at 18 they are out of the house....etc.
i think its great they found her.....now she has to stay on the boat with all them horney french sailors....
o my
now the boat size is in question....and you cant help but wonder if they didnt push her cause a kid broke her brothers record? but does all this matter at this point...a 13 yr old has summitted mt everest...
now the boat size is in question....and you cant help but wonder if they didnt push her cause a kid broke her brothers record? but does all this matter at this point...a 13 yr old has summitted mt everest...
did you know that those who make the rules for this have now just raised the age to "Summit" Mt. Everest.....18.....
Financial responsibility has not historically been an issue. "Parents" is subjective.
In CA, if your kid is caught smoking, you get fined. Yet CA is one of the worst states for empowering children and emasculating parents. Go figure.
I'd rather save save a life than make a coin.
Yes, I recall how Palin and other cons took offense at the term, "retarded".Gunny! please
They are Developmentally challenged
What does palin or cons have to do with the joke?
