Should Op-Ed Threads Be Held To A Standard of Being Rubber Room or Flame Zone Material?

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Should Op-Ed Threads Be Held To A Standard of Being Rubber Room or Flame Zone Material?

  1. Simple Yes, and I will write a reason why this should be so

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    Boss Take a Memo:

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    I'm in reality, bud.

    Corporations spending money don't influence my vote. Do they influence yours?

    Look.. IF this is a problem we need to work on a solution. We can't eliminate corporations. We can't keep them from spending money. I think the first thing we should do is identify how they are supposedly influencing the vote... you claim it's happening but you're not showing evidence.

    Is this more of you just parroting Marxist anti-capitalist clap trap again?
     
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    If you are suggesting the oodles of money corporations spend on election lobbying somehow fail to affect the outcomes, you are far out of reality, bud.
     
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    I'm not suggesting anything, I am asking you direct questions you are failing to answer. The fact that you can't answer them should be clear enough. We're not going to get rid of corporations, we're not going to stop them from spending money, the SCOTUS says we even have to let them have political free speech rights. So it seems we have to address the problem of people who are letting their votes be influenced. Mine aren't, I assume yours aren't.. so what are we doing different? Again... Corporations don't vote... We do.
     
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    Your questions are meaningless, thus not worth answering.

    Corporations are spending oodles of money on lobbying elections results: facts.

    You suggest better education is necessary, but only if those efforts had enough money to counter the corporations' spending. Is that possible?
     
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    Why do you think my questions (which you can't answer) are meaningless?

    Again... Corporations don't vote and they don't influence my vote. I didn't suggest "better education" ...I asked you how corporations influence your vote. They don't influence mine, I take it they don't influence yours, but apparently you think they influence someone's. How do they do that? If you can't explain it how am I supposed to accept it?

    Let me help you here, Jakey... you are parroting the talking points of Marxist-Socialism. It's all about the "evil capitalists" and how they are responsible for everything wrong in your life. I'm sure some politicians live in the back pocket of their big corporate donors but it's our duty to be an informed electorate and weed out those politicians. We're the ones who vote.
     
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    Your questions are meaningless because they don't address the problem, which is corporations like unions get to contribute oodles of money, which skews elections.

    That you cannot see this, Boss, is your issue: no one else's.
     
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    You're not making any sense because you're not connecting any dots. How are elections skewed because of corporate oodles of money? Money doesn't vote!
     
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    You're not making any sense because you're not connecting any dots. How are elections skewed because of corporate oodles of money? Money doesn't vote!
     
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    "Money doesn't vote!" Anyone who says money does not buy elections does not serve the time for an explanation. Either that person is stupid or is playing stupid.

    Yes, corporations spend money to influence elections. So do unions. That has to stop if we want a better America.

    What we don't want is an America that boss so dearly wants.

    I tried to explain to Walter Williams that his idea of a libertarian America (John C. Calhoun was an idol of his) would have Walter sweeping the office not writing the columns.

    Sorry, boss, the states don't protect civil liberties.
     
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    Again.. repeatedly telling me that something is so without showing me how it is so or why, but just because you say it's so... is not going to cut it with me. I understand corporations contribute money to both sides and virtually all politicians. I don't understand how that influences how you and I vote at the ballot box. Are the evil corporations using mind control or alien superpowers? Yes... people with money do have influence... we're not going to get rid of people with money or their influence. We've never been able to do that. So the situation becomes, we have to elect people who are above reproach and can't be bought.
     

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