CDZ Should guns and ammo be tax free items? Seattle's gun & ammo tax show why...

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    Seattle increased taxes on buying guns and ammo......a lot. They lied to the uninformed stating they were doing this to help pay for the damage done by criminals......by taking money from people who aren't criminals.....that is how the left wing thinks........


    So they raised taxes....gun sales went down....gun murder went up...since criminals don't pay taxes on guns and ammo....

    Too many pro 2nd Amendment people still don't understand that this is the outcome the anti-gunner, democrats wanted....they don't care about the murders....there are more than enough democrats in Seattle to vote every 2 years....they just care about driving out gun stores...and they are doing this....

    Guns and ammo need to be Tax free items.....

    It is too easy for the left to attack the 2nd Amendment by imposing taxes, fees and tests, just as the democrats did after the Republicans freed black slaves....the democrats imposed taxes and tests in order to vote...these Poll Taxes and Literacy tests kept the newly freed slaves from voting....

    The left is now trying to do this with the 2nd Amendment...




    Seattle gun tax failure? Firearm sales plummet, violence spikes after law passes

    Seattle City Councilman Tim Burgess introduced the tax in 2015. It puts a $25 tax on every firearm sold in the city and up to 5 cents per round of ammunition. The measure easily passed and took effect January 1, 2016. Comparing the first five months of 2017 with the same period before the gun tax went into effect, reports of shots fired are up 13 percent, the number of people injured in shootings climbed 37 percent and gun deaths doubled, according to crime statistics from the Seattle Police Department.

    Councilman Burgess never returned calls and emails for comment. Dana Robinson Slote, director of communication for Seattle City Council, said she was “politely declining your invitation for an interview.”

    In selling his gun tax to the public, Burgess predicted it would generate between $300,000 and $500,000 annually. The money would be used to study the root causes of gun violence in hopes of reducing the costs to taxpayers.

    JUDGE UPHOLDS SEATTLE 'GUN VIOLENCE TAX' DESPITE CHALLENGE FROM GUN RIGHTS GROUPS

    Seattle officials refuse to say how much the tax brought in the first year, only giving the number “under $200,000.” Gun rights groups have sued to get the exact amount.

    But Mike Coombs, owner of Outdoor Emporium, the last large gun dealer left in Seattle, said the actual tax revenue is almost certainly just over $100,000, a figure based on information he says the city shared with his lawyers.

    Coombs said storewide, sales are down 20 percent while gun sales have plummeted 60 percent.

    “I’ve had to lay off employees because of this,” Coombs said. “It’s hurting us, it’s hurting our employees.”

    Employees at the Big 5 sporting goods stores in Seattle also report anemic gun sales. But there’s evidence Seattleites are just going outside the city to buy their guns. Coombs also owns a gun shop in the nearby city of Fife. Sales there are described as robust.

    Another gun dealer simply left Seattle and moved his shop, Precise Shooter, to nearby Lynnwood. Sergey Solyanik said business has never been better. He said the gun tax has probably worked out to be a net negative for Seattle when factoring lost sales tax revenue.

    The goal wasn't to fund gun research or for any other reason than to drive gun stores out of Seattle.......this should be taken to court...and the courts need to end this...

    It is also in violation of the 14th Amendment...since it very easily prices guns out of the hands of the poor.......

     
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    Q. "Should guns and ammo be tax free items? Seattle's gun & ammo tax show why..."

    A. Of course; better to tax Milk, butter, cheese and bread - man does not live by food alone, he needs guns to help others die.
     
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    They should make up the budget by taking the money out of City Council's salaries until they get crime under control. Guns and ammo ought to be more than tax exempt like the church, every able-bodied person ought to be required to own one and be given courses in how to handled them.
     
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    Why should a church be tax exempt?
     
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    Guns are a Right.....and using the power to tax in order to destroy a Right needs to be stopped. The democrats used taxes to stop blacks from exercising their Right to vote...I don't see you complaining about lifting that tax......
     
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    Because to tax it is the very reason we codified the 1st Amendment in our Constitution......the power to tax a church allows the government to attack that church.....the Church of England forced people to pay a tax to support the Church of England.....we don't use taxes to support or attack Churches.
     
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    They would howl to the heavens if they taxed the vote; however.
     
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    Well, shooting people has become a new religion in the US, so sure.
    The shooters shouldn't have to pay taxes or be charged with crimes.
    :rolleyes:
     
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    I have no problem with the standard state sales tax being applied to guns and ammo additional taxes no.
     
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    church's shouldn't be tax exempt

    no charity should for that matter
     
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