Should Drugs be Legalized?

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    Indiana Oracle The Truth is Hard to Find

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    This is clearly a complex social issue, made more so by the Mexican border control matter now at hand.

    Just about everyone concerned about the direction of our society would like this to go away, or at least stay out the sight of polite society. Meanwhile polite society’s children join right in; the poor even more so.

    The Parade of Horribles
    Drug criminals flourish. Hollywood, sports figures and everyone with money treats drugs as an affordable indulgence. Flower children from the 60’s don’t seem to care and they are running our higher education system. Law enforcement tries as it can, the justice system equivocates on the law. We work with other countries, we have quiet military operations.

    We talk about pacifying Afghanistan when their principle domestic product is opium. Libertarians, who have some dubious views as do other political factions, are all for it but not on radar. And on it goes.

    Now, we have Barbarians at the Gate of the Mexico border. There is no powerful political constituency for Washington to serve, and, with everything else that is going on, a general weariness in the public along with a great many who wonder why this was not fixed already.

    Do We Want to Fight a War on Drugs?
    There is no evidence of this being an issue which is taken seriously in Washington, across administrations. That usually signals that the enlightened self-interest of the Congress is being served elsewhere, to be kind about it.
    Since this is an international phenomenon involving wealthy, casually interested populations as well as banana republic and lawless places, the idea of doing anything more than impeding flows is unrealistic.

    But where would be today if, like prohibition, drugs were legal and controlled? By the word, controlled, I am referring to how liquor today is still sold out of state stores in several places.

    What is your view?
     
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    The question is much too broad.
     
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    The "War on Drugs" hasn't worked, it's wasted billions of dollars, and it's unconstitutional. The question you have to ask yourself, however, is do you own your own body or does the government?

    End the "War on Drugs," in other words.
     
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    Not all of them.
     
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    I'm with Kevin, the responsibility of government, if we are truly free, ends with educating the people about their choices and regulating the flow to minors, as prescribed by the will of the people.

    Unfortunately, the free market approach to some problems leaves unsightly bums in the street and other messes for the people to clean up.

    -Joe
     
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    Well, the Netherlands seem to be quite fine (Marihuana is very legal) as is Germany (where Marihuana is decriminalized, you can smoke it, you can posses it, but you cannot sell it).

    However, the flow to minors should be strongly regulated, and instant addicition things like Crack or Heroin should not be allowed.
    I am not sure wether "medium" drugs, medium in terms of addictivity and bodily damage inflicted, like Cocaine or Speed should be treated, but I am in favor of creating gouverment programms to help people out of drug addictions by implementing a controlled withdrawal using substitutes.

    I personally think that turning a drug addict into a semi productive member of society is one of the better uses of the Tax payers money.
     
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    No. Absolutely not. All drugs should be illegal. All cigarettes, all marijuana, every single other drug - illegal. If a toaster oven catches fire and burns my hand, I can sue the manufacturer - because products that cause harm to people after usage of said product is illegal. All products that harm the user should be illegal. All drugs should be absolutely 100% illegal.
     
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    The difference being that the toaster oven incident is an accident, whereas you get into drugs, cigarettes, and alcohol realizing that they're bad for you. If you still choose to do them, then that was your choice. The government can't legislate morality, and shouldn't be suppressing freedom of choice.
     
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    We already have thousands of legalized drugs as it is, if people are too lazy to ask their docs for those then fuck em, docs are more than happy to prescribe something.
     
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    This has nothing to do with freedom. An alzheimer's patient is not able to decide correct medical treatment for themselves - they need someone else to.

    People who choose to do drugs are psychologically unable to decide rationally for themselves - they're mentally disabled. Just like a schizophrenic - they are not able to control their actions. If a depressed person refuses to take his or her medication to get better, they are doing so because of the depression - thus the sickness is causing their actions. Same thing with drug use. Their mental disability is causing them to do drugs. They are not in control of their actions.
     

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