Should Churches be forced to accomodate for homosexual weddings?

[Darkwind]

Churches should burn in Hell because religion is the single greatest lie in all of human history.

Oh, look at the funny primate who says, "Stop using tools, you make me look bad!"

 

[Ibentoken]

Any why in the world are so many people obsessed with things "gay" these days?!?!?

WTF?

That is the core question. I remember the seventies or eighties, some people were gay, no one cared and they made no drama out of it.
Today, I'm fed up with having it shoved into my face at every opportunity.
As if there would be nothing more important in the world as to let it know about their sexual preferences.

It's part of the leftist agenda. It's deliberate.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This question can apply to all places of worship, so mosques, synagogues, hindu temples etc.

Should places or worship be forced to accommodate for gay weddings?

This fails as a straw man fallacy.

14th Amendment jurisprudence applies only government entities, not private individuals or organizations, such as religious institutions.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The First Amendment forbids public law from forcing anything on religious institutions, just as it forbids religious institutions from imposing their will on the public.

So churches should have the right to discriminate against homosexuals?

How about against racial minorities as well?

Its understanadable that some churches may feel they are following their concience by not allowing Homosexual marriage.Because there are scriptures that says that is a sin , whether or not I agree with that, I think they should be allowed to choose to marry them or not. There are plenty of churches and other places they can get married if they get turned down by one.

Where inthe bible does it say to discriminate by race ? If a church discriminates by race I dont see how that is the same thing.

What follows is everything that Jesus had to say about homosexuality:















































The End

 

[Sallow]

That would be against the Constitution of the United States.

Absolutely not.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The real question is: why in the world we are mixing a legal issue up with a religious issue?

Marriage is a religious issue when it takes place within the church (or any other religious body).

But for the purposes of the state, it is a legal issue. A marriage conferred by a justice of the peace has absolutely nothing to do with a "church" ceremony.

I see no reason in the world why Christian Churches, Synagogues or Mosques (or any other religious organization) should have to allow gay marriage if they don't want to. And why in the world would gay people want to get married in a place where they are not wanted, anyway? That makes no sense.

But those same churches have no right in saying whether gay people can become legally married, i.e., via Justice of the Peace, and with a legal and binding marriage certificate. Technically, once outside of their buildings of worship, those religious people actually have nothing to say about this. You see, the sword cuts both ways.

I also believe that those religous organizations that use the power of the pulpit to sway politics in this way should lose their tax-exempt status.


Any why in the world are so many people obsessed with things "gay" these days?!?!?

WTF?

you make alot of sense...

but when it comes to religious people having a say 'outside their buildings of worship' they have as much say as the next guy....the secular left is attempting to corral Christian attitudes to only their 'houses of worship'....

States should have the right to make their own marriage laws....not the Feds.....per the Constitution We The People have the right to make our own marriage laws....not because it is religion but because marriage is a societal issue.....

people are 'obsessed' with all things 'gay' these days because the leftists are pushing it....they are using it as a wedge issue to destroy Christianity.....every commie movement has attacked God....and these anti-American cross-knockers are out in full force these days....

 

[Ibentoken]

So churches should have the right to discriminate against homosexuals?

How about against racial minorities as well?

Its understanadable that some churches may feel they are following their concience by not allowing Homosexual marriage.Because there are scriptures that says that is a sin , whether or not I agree with that, I think they should be allowed to choose to marry them or not. There are plenty of churches and other places they can get married if they get turned down by one.

Where inthe bible does it say to discriminate by race ? If a church discriminates by race I dont see how that is the same thing.

What follows is everything that Jesus had to say about homosexuality:















































The End

Matthew 19. Marriage is a man and woman.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The real question is: why in the world we are mixing a legal issue up with a religious issue?

Marriage is a religious issue when it takes place within the church (or any other religious body).

But for the purposes of the state, it is a legal issue. A marriage conferred by a justice of the peace has absolutely nothing to do with a "church" ceremony.

I see no reason in the world why Christian Churches, Synagogues or Mosques (or any other religious organization) should have to allow gay marriage if they don't want to. And why in the world would gay people want to get married in a place where they are not wanted, anyway? That makes no sense.

But those same churches have no right in saying whether gay people can become legally married, i.e., via Justice of the Peace, and with a legal and binding marriage certificate. Technically, once outside of their buildings of worship, those religious people actually have nothing to say about this. You see, the sword cuts both ways.

I also believe that those religous organizations that use the power of the pulpit to sway politics in this way should lose their tax-exempt status.


Any why in the world are so many people obsessed with things "gay" these days?!?!?

WTF?

you make alot of sense...

but when it comes to religious people having a say 'outside their buildings of worship' they have as much say as the next guy....the secular left is attempting to corral Christian attitudes to only their 'houses of worship'....

States should have the right to make their own marriage laws....not the Feds.....per the Constitution We The People have the right to make our own marriage laws....not because it is religion but because marriage is a societal issue.....

people are 'obsessed' with all things 'gay' these days because the leftists are pushing it....they are using it as a wedge issue to destroy Christianity.....every commie movement has attacked God....and these anti-American cross-knockers are out in full force these days....

Nope. You are obsessed with all things gay these days because the country is passing you by. What leftists want is for one's sexuality to NOT BE AN ISSUE AT ALL.

There is no god to attack. But you can believe there is if you want. You can also believe that prosperity trickles down and that the earth is flat. Believe it. Live it. But please.....don't use it as an excuse to be a bigot.

Thanks.

 

[Ibentoken]

The real question is: why in the world we are mixing a legal issue up with a religious issue?

Marriage is a religious issue when it takes place within the church (or any other religious body).

But for the purposes of the state, it is a legal issue. A marriage conferred by a justice of the peace has absolutely nothing to do with a "church" ceremony.

I see no reason in the world why Christian Churches, Synagogues or Mosques (or any other religious organization) should have to allow gay marriage if they don't want to. And why in the world would gay people want to get married in a place where they are not wanted, anyway? That makes no sense.

But those same churches have no right in saying whether gay people can become legally married, i.e., via Justice of the Peace, and with a legal and binding marriage certificate. Technically, once outside of their buildings of worship, those religious people actually have nothing to say about this. You see, the sword cuts both ways.

I also believe that those religous organizations that use the power of the pulpit to sway politics in this way should lose their tax-exempt status.


Any why in the world are so many people obsessed with things "gay" these days?!?!?

WTF?

you make alot of sense...

but when it comes to religious people having a say 'outside their buildings of worship' they have as much say as the next guy....the secular left is attempting to corral Christian attitudes to only their 'houses of worship'....

States should have the right to make their own marriage laws....not the Feds.....per the Constitution We The People have the right to make our own marriage laws....not because it is religion but because marriage is a societal issue.....

people are 'obsessed' with all things 'gay' these days because the leftists are pushing it....they are using it as a wedge issue to destroy Christianity.....every commie movement has attacked God....and these anti-American cross-knockers are out in full force these days....

Nope. You are obsessed with all things gay these days because the country is passing you by. What leftists want is for one's sexuality to NOT BE AN ISSUE AT ALL.

There is no god to attack. But you can believe there is if you want. You can also believe that prosperity trickles down and that the earth is flat. Believe it. Live it. But please.....don't use it as an excuse to be a bigot.

Thanks.

We will practice our religious freedom. Nothing much you can do about it. We're going to kick your agenda out of our schools too.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The real question is: why in the world we are mixing a legal issue up with a religious issue?

Marriage is a religious issue when it takes place within the church (or any other religious body).

But for the purposes of the state, it is a legal issue. A marriage conferred by a justice of the peace has absolutely nothing to do with a "church" ceremony.

I see no reason in the world why Christian Churches, Synagogues or Mosques (or any other religious organization) should have to allow gay marriage if they don't want to. And why in the world would gay people want to get married in a place where they are not wanted, anyway? That makes no sense.

But those same churches have no right in saying whether gay people can become legally married, i.e., via Justice of the Peace, and with a legal and binding marriage certificate. Technically, once outside of their buildings of worship, those religious people actually have nothing to say about this. You see, the sword cuts both ways.

I also believe that those religous organizations that use the power of the pulpit to sway politics in this way should lose their tax-exempt status.


Any why in the world are so many people obsessed with things "gay" these days?!?!?

WTF?

you make alot of sense...

but when it comes to religious people having a say 'outside their buildings of worship' they have as much say as the next guy....the secular left is attempting to corral Christian attitudes to only their 'houses of worship'....

States should have the right to make their own marriage laws....not the Feds.....per the Constitution We The People have the right to make our own marriage laws....not because it is religion but because marriage is a societal issue.....

people are 'obsessed' with all things 'gay' these days because the leftists are pushing it....they are using it as a wedge issue to destroy Christianity.....every commie movement has attacked God....and these anti-American cross-knockers are out in full force these days....

Nope. You are obsessed with all things gay these days because the country is passing you by. What leftists want is for one's sexuality to NOT BE AN ISSUE AT ALL.

There is no god to attack. But you can believe there is if you want. You can also believe that prosperity trickles down and that the earth is flat. Believe it. Live it. But please.....don't use it as an excuse to be a bigot.

Thanks.

Bull.....you are nothing more than a useful idiot...

the Left has been using sexual perversion for decades to undermine and degrade our moral society....from pornography to 'art' to prostitution to 'free love' to the Pill to single parenthood to abortion to 'gay rights'......

here's a partial list of the 1958 goals of communism...

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

Current Communist Goals (1958)

 

[LoneLaugher]

you make alot of sense...

but when it comes to religious people having a say 'outside their buildings of worship' they have as much say as the next guy....the secular left is attempting to corral Christian attitudes to only their 'houses of worship'....

States should have the right to make their own marriage laws....not the Feds.....per the Constitution We The People have the right to make our own marriage laws....not because it is religion but because marriage is a societal issue.....

people are 'obsessed' with all things 'gay' these days because the leftists are pushing it....they are using it as a wedge issue to destroy Christianity.....every commie movement has attacked God....and these anti-American cross-knockers are out in full force these days....

Nope. You are obsessed with all things gay these days because the country is passing you by. What leftists want is for one's sexuality to NOT BE AN ISSUE AT ALL.

There is no god to attack. But you can believe there is if you want. You can also believe that prosperity trickles down and that the earth is flat. Believe it. Live it. But please.....don't use it as an excuse to be a bigot.

Thanks.

We will practice our religious freedom. Nothing much you can do about it. We're going to kick your agenda out of our schools too.

You can do that all you want. You are free to. Clearly. But you won't turn the tide against equality. That train has left the station.

Is there an agenda in your schools?

 

[Ibentoken]

The leftist agenda is to bring down everything traditional about America to weaken us because the traditional family is the backbone of America. Utopia is a land where everyone thinks the same way. That's why they control the school system. If you won't go along then you are a bigot and a hater, ignorant hillbilly, homophobic, the enemy, and you must be destroyed. There is a cancer in America.

 

[LoneLaugher]

you make alot of sense...

but when it comes to religious people having a say 'outside their buildings of worship' they have as much say as the next guy....the secular left is attempting to corral Christian attitudes to only their 'houses of worship'....

States should have the right to make their own marriage laws....not the Feds.....per the Constitution We The People have the right to make our own marriage laws....not because it is religion but because marriage is a societal issue.....

people are 'obsessed' with all things 'gay' these days because the leftists are pushing it....they are using it as a wedge issue to destroy Christianity.....every commie movement has attacked God....and these anti-American cross-knockers are out in full force these days....

Nope. You are obsessed with all things gay these days because the country is passing you by. What leftists want is for one's sexuality to NOT BE AN ISSUE AT ALL.

There is no god to attack. But you can believe there is if you want. You can also believe that prosperity trickles down and that the earth is flat. Believe it. Live it. But please.....don't use it as an excuse to be a bigot.

Thanks.

Bull.....you are nothing more than a useful idiot...

the Left has been using sexual perversion for decades to undermine and degrade our moral society....from pornography to 'art' to prostitution to 'free love' to the Pill to single parenthood to abortion to 'gay rights'......

here's a partial list of the 1958 goals of communism...

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

Current Communist Goals (1958)

Such silliness. Using sexual perversion? Only for decades? Funny stuff.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The leftist agenda is to bring down everything traditional about America to weaken us because the traditional family is the backbone of America. Utopia is a land where everyone thinks the same way. That's why they control the school system.

And that is ridiculous. I am a leftist. Married to a woman for 28 years. Three kids. I love my country. I dig many of our traditions. I have no interest in thinking like anyone else. I don't have anything to do with the school system.

Next?

 

[Ibentoken]

Nope. You are obsessed with all things gay these days because the country is passing you by. What leftists want is for one's sexuality to NOT BE AN ISSUE AT ALL.

There is no god to attack. But you can believe there is if you want. You can also believe that prosperity trickles down and that the earth is flat. Believe it. Live it. But please.....don't use it as an excuse to be a bigot.

Thanks.

We will practice our religious freedom. Nothing much you can do about it. We're going to kick your agenda out of our schools too.

You can do that all you want. You are free to. Clearly. But you won't turn the tide against equality. That train has left the station.

Is there an agenda in your schools?

The leftist agenda has nothing to do with equality and rights. Those are just buzz words to make the useful Idiots believe they are part of a righteous cause. It's about submission and silencing the opposition.

There is a leftist agenda in our government schools, yes.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

This question can apply to all places of worship, so mosques, synagogues, hindu temples etc.

Should places or worship be forced to accommodate for gay weddings?

Yer gonna fit right in here but really, its hard to take you very seriously while looking at your avatar.

But to address your question, read the First Amendment. Better still, read my advice in my signature. Then, turn off your video games and think about it for a few minutes.

 

[LoneLaugher]

We will practice our religious freedom. Nothing much you can do about it. We're going to kick your agenda out of our schools too.

You can do that all you want. You are free to. Clearly. But you won't turn the tide against equality. That train has left the station.

Is there an agenda in your schools?

The leftist agenda has nothing to do with equality and rights. Those are just buzz words to make the useful Idiots believe they are part of a righteous cause. It's about submission and silencing the opposition.

There is a leftist agenda in our government schools, yes.

Interesting. Do you know any leftists?

What is the leftist agenda in schools?

 

[Ibentoken]

The leftist agenda is to bring down everything traditional about America to weaken us because the traditional family is the backbone of America. Utopia is a land where everyone thinks the same way. That's why they control the school system.

And that is ridiculous. I am a leftist. Married to a woman for 28 years. Three kids. I love my country. I dig many of our traditions. I have no interest in thinking like anyone else. I don't have anything to do with the school system.

Next?

You aren't representative of the leftist agenda. That doesn't mean there isn't one.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

We will practice our religious freedom. Nothing much you can do about it. We're going to kick your agenda out of our schools too.

You can do that all you want. You are free to. Clearly. But you won't turn the tide against equality. That train has left the station.

Is there an agenda in your schools?

The leftist agenda has nothing to do with equality and rights. Those are just buzz words to make the useful Idiots believe they are part of a righteous cause. It's about submission and silencing the opposition.

There is a leftist agenda in our government schools, yes.

The leftist agenda is equality as is guaranteed by our Constitution.

The right wing agenda is to deny equality, as guaranteed by our Constitution.

The left has always won this battle.

The left will always win this battle.

 

[Ibentoken]

You can do that all you want. You are free to. Clearly. But you won't turn the tide against equality. That train has left the station.

Is there an agenda in your schools?

The leftist agenda has nothing to do with equality and rights. Those are just buzz words to make the useful Idiots believe they are part of a righteous cause. It's about submission and silencing the opposition.

There is a leftist agenda in our government schools, yes.

Interesting. Do you know any leftists?

What is the leftist agenda in schools?

Homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality.