Should Army National Guard Troops Shoot Illegal Border Crossers ?

[Windparadox]

So from what you are saying Kate Brown (Oregon's governor) and the rest of the liberal gang in colleges throughout that were calling for Lavoy Finucum and the other ranchers and their supporters be shot too at Malhuer are simply all liberal murderers. Thanks for that clarification.

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Apples and oranges.

 

[protectionist]

Sure any company that hires them... that's who invites them.

They aren't using force and they aren't hostile. "Oh my Gosh, he hostilely picked that lettuce for me. And that one is hostilely cleaning toilets... all this hostility!!! "

No, that's NOT an invitation. So you were just talking BS. What a surprise.

Of course they are using force. They're doing it right now at the Mexican Guatemalan border.

Were you thinking they were going to grow wings, and float over US border fences ?

And yes, ignoring our laws is disrespecting them, and disrespecting them is disrespecting us, all = hostility.

If somebody breaks into your house, are they not hostile to you ? How many of these caravaners will you "invite" to sleep on your couch and living room chairs ?
Please send us the photos.

 

[protectionist]

Oh is he special, I think not. Just another white rancher who thinks he is above the law.
LaVoy Finicum - Wikipedia

You needed to mention that he's "white " ? Why ? Got some kind of hangup about white people ?

 

[Penelope]

Oh is he special, I think not. Just another white rancher who thinks he is above the law.
LaVoy Finicum - Wikipedia

You needed to mention that he's "white " ? Why ? Got some kind of hangup about white people ?

Yep. Only those who think they are above everyone else and above the law.

 

[protectionist]

No way to tell if they're unarmed or not, so shoot them. No reason for our soldiers to die or risk harm over criminal invaders. Besides, they're bringing diseases we got rid of and they're bringing in more. They aren't civilians if they're committing crimes.

Civilian or military, they're invaders on an invasion scale. That's why Trump is moving the scenario from Border Patrol to military.

 

[Windparadox]

He was murdered.

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Members of the far right have been saying that since January of 2016. When the law enforcement official who shot him gets brought up for murder charges, let me know.

 

[protectionist]

Yep. Only those who think they are above everyone else and above the law.

But you didn't have to specify that he was white. You could have just said about thinking above everyone else and above the law.

And your answer was "Yep" -you Do have a hangup about white people (aside from the law)

 

[protectionist]

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Members of the far right have been saying that since January of 2016. When the law enforcement official who shot him gets brought up for murder charges, let me know.

 

[there4eyeM]

Who needs the U.S. Army? Where are all the brave firearms advocates? These 'good guys with guns' have the opportunity to make a patriotic gesture and assemble at the border. Isn't that what all their weapons are supposed to be for? What could be more satisfying for them? They dream of ferociously defending their house from being penetrated, here their mother country is about to be entered!

 

[August West]

The year was 1980 when we welcomed 125,000 Cubans who were fleeing communism. Why can`t those who are fleeing capitalism receive the same treatment?

 

[RodISHI]

He was murdered.

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Members of the far right have been saying that since January of 2016. When the law enforcement official who shot him gets brought up for murder charges, let me know.

Simply using 'your' theory.

So from what you are saying Kate Brown (Oregon's governor) and the rest of the liberal gang in colleges throughout that were calling for Lavoy Finucum and the other ranchers and their supporters be shot too at Malhuer are simply all liberal murderers. Thanks for that clarification.

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Apples and oranges.

Don't have much hypocrisy in you do you?

***sarcasm intended***

 

[protectionist]

Who needs the U.S. Army? Where are all the brave firearms advocates? These 'good guys with guns' have the opportunity to make a patriotic gesture and assemble at the border. Isn't that what all their weapons are supposed to be for? What could be more satisfying for them? They dream of ferociously defending their house from being penetrated, here their mother country is about to be entered!

Who says they WON'T be there ? You ?

 

[RodISHI]

The year was 1980 when we welcomed 125,000 Cubans who were fleeing communism. Why can`t those who are fleeing capitalism receive the same treatment?

We are not a communist or socialist country. Mexico is though so maybe they can stay there.

 

[longknife]

When I served in the Army National Guard, I was told the first duty of the Army National Guard is to do what the name "National Guard" clearly states > to guard the nation. And the first priority of that is to stop foreigners from invading the USA.

And the definition of invading

? > "to enter forcibly or hostilely" (Webster's New World College Dictionary, 5th ed.) Well, the caravaners already entered Mexico, from Guatemala, forcibly, and one could call it hostilely, being that it's disrespecting Mexico's immigration and border law. In doing so, the border crossers tore down fences and physical barriers.

There's no doubt that the thousands of people in this caravan have exactly that same thing in mind for the United States. The solution to stop them, according to my National Guard officers is to meet the force with greater force, and use whatever force is necessary to stop and repel the invaders.

Since an effective border wall is not yet in place or electrified fencing, barbed wire, etc, this would mean possibly shooting hundreds of the caravaners, gassing them at the border, or possibly even using artillery. The military has its job to do, the question is can (and should) we allow Honduras, Guatemala and other countries to invade us ?​

Hell no! This is a planned political move and an invasion of our sovereignity. The president is duty bound to stop it.

 

[protectionist]

The year was 1980 when we welcomed 125,000 Cubans who were fleeing communism. Why can`t those who are fleeing capitalism receive the same treatment?

Maybe YOU (and Jimmy Carter) welcomed them. I don't know anybody who did.

And it's not a communism/capitalism issue. It's an invasion issue. (not matter where they're coming from)

 

[Windparadox]

Don't have much hypocrisy in you do you?***sarcasm intended***

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[longknife]

Shoot unarmed civilians?

There has to be a dividing line in this and I don't envy the soldiers or their commanders faced with the delima. They are invaders and should be turned back, with force if necessary.

There are serious agitators within this group and they will do what they can to create violence, hiding behind women and children like so many gutless thugs do.

I do not envy the president. He's really got a problem with this and we will see how he handles it through the various governors and their subordinates.

 

[August West]

The year was 1980 when we welcomed 125,000 Cubans who were fleeing communism. Why can`t those who are fleeing capitalism receive the same treatment?

We are not a communist or socialist country. Mexico is though so maybe they can stay there.

No. Capitalism has been a failure in Mexico too.

 

[longknife]

I am thinking Trump sent some mercenaries to Honduras just to get his wall.

What an absolutely ignorant post!

 

[protectionist]

There has to be a dividing line in this and I don't envy the soldiers or their commanders faced with the delima. They are invaders and should be turned back, with force if necessary.

There are serious agitators within this group and they will do what they can to create violence, hiding behind women and children like so many gutless thugs do.

I do not envy the president. He's really got a problem with this and we will see how he handles it through the various governors and their subordinates.

He could keep the hordes from coming in with tear gas. It's pretty tough stuff.

I also still like the idea of an alligator moat. A bit too late for that one though.