CDZ Should Americans be allowed to own military weapons used for mass murder and genocide?

[2aguy]

The left wing here in America uses the term genocide in regard to the treatment of the early Americans........not true, but that isn't the point of this discussion. The discussion centers around this question...the weapons below were used by the military to commit genocide against the native Americans...as the left wing would say.....so should Americans be allowed to own these murder instruments....take a look at these killing devices...

According to the 4th Circuit Court of appeals....these weapons....military weapons.....are not protected by the 2nd Amendment...even though the U.S. Supreme Court in the Heller decision says they are wrong.....

So...should Americans be allowed to own these military weapons of mass murder and genocide?

 

[JakeStarkey]

SCOTUS will let us know.

 

[Toronado3800]

The left wing here in America uses the term genocide in regard to the treatment of the early Americans........not true, but that isn't the point of this discussion. The discussion centers around this question...the weapons below were used by the military to commit genocide against the native Americans...as the left wing would say.....so should Americans be allowed to own these murder instruments....take a look at these killing devices...

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According to the 4th Circuit Court of appeals....these weapons....military weapons.....are not protected by the 2nd Amendment...even though the U.S. Supreme Court in the Heller decision says they are wrong.....

So...should Americans be allowed to own these military weapons of mass murder and genocide?

Your point is valid. Your decision to draw lines between instead of unify will cause others to be dubious of your post though.

 

[2aguy]

The point of this post is to show the next line of attack once book burner/gun grabbers move on after they get weapons that hold magazines.......no weapon will be allowed, and each gun they ban is simply setting up for the next gun to be banned...including weapons they say they might actually allow us to keep.....they will find a new line to use to demonize these tools, and move to ban them as well...

 

[jwoodie]

The left wing here in America uses the term genocide in regard to the treatment of the early Americans........not true, but that isn't the point of this discussion. The discussion centers around this question...the weapons below were used by the military to commit genocide against the native Americans...as the left wing would say.....so should Americans be allowed to own these murder instruments....take a look at these killing devices...

How about bows and arrows, spears and torture by fire, all in plentiful supply before the Europeans arrived? Afterwards, the main instrument of death was disease...

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yes, the mainstream here in America condemn Native America genocide by the European interruption into the America.

 

[2aguy]

Yes, the mainstream here in America condemn Native America genocide by the European interruption into the America.

There was no genocide....

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yes, the mainstream here in America condemn Native America genocide by the European interruption into the America.

There was no genocide....

Of course there was and of course you are wrong. You can offer nothing to support your cause.

 

[westwall]

The left wing here in America uses the term genocide in regard to the treatment of the early Americans........not true, but that isn't the point of this discussion. The discussion centers around this question...the weapons below were used by the military to commit genocide against the native Americans...as the left wing would say.....so should Americans be allowed to own these murder instruments....take a look at these killing devices...

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According to the 4th Circuit Court of appeals....these weapons....military weapons.....are not protected by the 2nd Amendment...even though the U.S. Supreme Court in the Heller decision says they are wrong.....

So...should Americans be allowed to own these military weapons of mass murder and genocide?

Yup. I want the same level of weaponry as those who will be trying to kill me. Only seems fair to me. The lefty's are always complaining about things not being fair, so this is one they'll have to give to us.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The left wing here in America uses the term genocide in regard to the treatment of the early Americans........not true, but that isn't the point of this discussion. The discussion centers around this question...the weapons below were used by the military to commit genocide against the native Americans...as the left wing would say.....so should Americans be allowed to own these murder instruments....take a look at these killing devices...

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According to the 4th Circuit Court of appeals....these weapons....military weapons.....are not protected by the 2nd Amendment...even though the U.S. Supreme Court in the Heller decision says they are wrong.....

So...should Americans be allowed to own these military weapons of mass murder and genocide?

Yup. I want the same level of weaponry as those who will be trying to kill me. Only seems fair to me. The lefty's are always complaining about things not being fair, so this is one they'll have to give to us.

That makes no sense.

Who is trying to kill you?

 

[westwall]

Yes, the mainstream here in America condemn Native America genocide by the European interruption into the America.

There was no genocide....

Of course there was and of course you are wrong. You can offer nothing to support your cause.

There was? There are no Native Americans left? There was a ton of nastiness from both sides, and the British tried to eradicate a couple of tribes with small pox laden blankets, but I see no evidence of a genocide.

 

[westwall]

The left wing here in America uses the term genocide in regard to the treatment of the early Americans........not true, but that isn't the point of this discussion. The discussion centers around this question...the weapons below were used by the military to commit genocide against the native Americans...as the left wing would say.....so should Americans be allowed to own these murder instruments....take a look at these killing devices...

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According to the 4th Circuit Court of appeals....these weapons....military weapons.....are not protected by the 2nd Amendment...even though the U.S. Supreme Court in the Heller decision says they are wrong.....

So...should Americans be allowed to own these military weapons of mass murder and genocide?

Yup. I want the same level of weaponry as those who will be trying to kill me. Only seems fair to me. The lefty's are always complaining about things not being fair, so this is one they'll have to give to us.

That makes no sense.

Who is trying to kill you?

No one yet. And, so long as we the people are armed.....no one will be trying. And that is the whole point of the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Toronado3800]

Yes, the mainstream here in America condemn Native America genocide by the European interruption into the America.

There was no genocide....

I agree the guns shown above are the least of our problems but man, the natives lost a lot of people and land.

 

[Moonglow]

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yes, the mainstream here in America condemn Native America genocide by the European interruption into the America.

There was no genocide....

Of course there was and of course you are wrong. You can offer nothing to support your cause.

There was? There are no Native Americans left? There was a ton of nastiness from both sides, and the British tried to eradicate a couple of tribes with small pox laden blankets, but I see no evidence of a genocide.

So you do not understand the term. OK. And what you see is unimportant, of course.

 

[westwall]

Yes, the mainstream here in America condemn Native America genocide by the European interruption into the America.

There was no genocide....

I agree the guns shown above are the least of our problems but man, the natives lost a lot of people and land.

Yes, they did. The Trail of Tears is a particularly despicable act for which the US has never properly atoned. The Native Americans did everything that was asked of them. They developed a written language and laws and then the white man said, "Great! Your land is too good for you so we're taking it, and by the way there's this wonderful place we are sending you to. Enjoy!"

 

[2aguy]

Yes, the mainstream here in America condemn Native America genocide by the European interruption into the America.

There was no genocide....

Of course there was and of course you are wrong. You can offer nothing to support your cause.

There was? There are no Native Americans left? There was a ton of nastiness from both sides, and the British tried to eradicate a couple of tribes with small pox laden blankets, but I see no evidence of a genocide.

The small pox blanket story is a myth......there was a letter, between two officers, but no actually attempt at doing it...

 

[2aguy]

Yes, the mainstream here in America condemn Native America genocide by the European interruption into the America.

There was no genocide....

I agree the guns shown above are the least of our problems but man, the natives lost a lot of people and land.

As did the victims of the mongols, the aztech, the zulu, and the samurai......and the arabs.......

 

[2aguy]

Yes, the mainstream here in America condemn Native America genocide by the European interruption into the America.

There was no genocide....

I agree the guns shown above are the least of our problems but man, the natives lost a lot of people and land.

Yes, they did. The Trail of Tears is a particularly despicable act for which the US has never properly atoned. The Native Americans did everything that was asked of them. They developed a written language and laws and then the white man said, "Great! Your land is too good for you so we're taking it, and by the way there's this wonderful place we are sending you to. Enjoy!"

The first democrat President did that.......

 

[westwall]

The left wing here in America uses the term genocide in regard to the treatment of the early Americans........not true, but that isn't the point of this discussion. The discussion centers around this question...the weapons below were used by the military to commit genocide against the native Americans...as the left wing would say.....so should Americans be allowed to own these murder instruments....take a look at these killing devices...

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According to the 4th Circuit Court of appeals....these weapons....military weapons.....are not protected by the 2nd Amendment...even though the U.S. Supreme Court in the Heller decision says they are wrong.....

So...should Americans be allowed to own these military weapons of mass murder and genocide?

Yup. I want the same level of weaponry as those who will be trying to kill me. Only seems fair to me. The lefty's are always complaining about things not being fair, so this is one they'll have to give to us.

That makes no sense.

Who is trying to kill you?

No one yet. And, so long as we the people are armed.....no one will be trying. And that is the whole point of the 2nd Amendment.

So you admit you are deep into tinfoil conspiracies. OK.

[/QUOTE]The small pox blanket story is a myth......there was a letter, between two officers, but no actually attempt at doing it...[/QUOTE]







No, it's not. It actually happened under the British. The American Army's supposed use of the tactic is what was shown to be false.

"During Pontiac's uprising in 1763, the Indians besieged Fort Pitt. They burned nearby houses, forcing the inhabitants to take refuge in the well-protected fort. The British officer in charge, Captain Simeon Ecuyer, reported to Colonel Henry Bouquet in Philadelphia that he feared the crowded conditions would result in disease. Smallpox had already broken out. On June 24, 1763, William Trent, a local trader, recorded in his journal that two Indian chiefs had visited the fort, urging the British to abandon the fight, but the British refused. Instead, when the Indians were ready to leave, Trent wrote: "Out of our regard for them, we gave them two Blankets and an Handkerchief out of the Small Pox Hospital. I hope it will have the desired effect."




English translation of Grotius on peace and war.

It is not known who conceived the plan, but there's no doubt it met with the approval of the British military in America and may have been common practice. Sir Jeffery Amherst, commander of British forces in North America, wrote July 7, 1763, probably unaware of the events at Fort Pitt: "Could it not be contrived to Send the Small Pox among those Disaffected Tribes of Indians? We must, on this occasion, Use Every Stratagem in our power to Reduce them." He ordered the extirpation of the Indians and said no prisoners should be taken. About a week later, he wrote to Bouquet: "You will Do well to try to Innoculate the Indians by means of Blanketts as well as to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Execrable Race."


Though a connection cannot be proven, a smallpox epidemic erupted in the Ohio Valley that may have been the result of the distribution of the infected articles at Fort Pitt. Whatever its origins, the outbreak devastated the Indians. Such tactics appear atrocious and barbaric to modern readers, but at the time anything was alright to use against "savages." Nor was all-out war foreign to the Indians. During Pontiac's Rebellion the Indian warriors killed about 2,000 civilian settlers and about 400 soldiers. They, too, tried to "extirpate" the enemy."

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