Should able people work for what they want?

Should able people work for what they want?


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1850 Abraham Lincoln Campaigns as a Friend of Labor | Massachusetts AFL-CIO

1850 Abraham Lincoln Campaigns as a Friend of Labor

Seeking to win the support of northern mechanics and factory workers, Abraham Lincoln campaigned as a friend of the Labor Movement. Lincoln praised the virtues of the American worker, while condemning the greed of management. During his campaign, Lincoln declared that “labor can exist without capital, but… capital could never have existed without labor. Hence… labor is… greatly superior of capital.”

Massachusetts workers embraced the words of Abraham Lincoln, not just in their fight to extend free labor to the south, but also in their struggle to improve their own condition. After the end of the Civil War and Lincoln’s tragic death, the workers of Massachusetts demanded that their Commonwealth live up to the standards that the President had championed. In November of 1865, Ira Steward addressed a crowd of workingmen at Faneuil Hall. Steward read off a list of goals to the crowd, and concluded that

“We rejoice that the rebel aristocracy of the South has been crushed… that beneath the glorious shadow of our flag men of ever clime, lineage and color are free. But… we yet want it to be known that the workingmen of America will in the future claim a more equal share in the wealth their industry creates… and a more equal participation in… those free institutions… defended on many a bloody field of battle.”
 
1850 Abraham Lincoln Campaigns as a Friend of Labor | Massachusetts AFL-CIO

1850 Abraham Lincoln Campaigns as a Friend of Labor

Seeking to win the support of northern mechanics and factory workers, Abraham Lincoln campaigned as a friend of the Labor Movement. Lincoln praised the virtues of the American worker, while condemning the greed of management. During his campaign, Lincoln declared that “labor can exist without capital, but… capital could never have existed without labor. Hence… labor is… greatly superior of capital.”

Massachusetts workers embraced the words of Abraham Lincoln, not just in their fight to extend free labor to the south, but also in their struggle to improve their own condition. After the end of the Civil War and Lincoln’s tragic death, the workers of Massachusetts demanded that their Commonwealth live up to the standards that the President had championed. In November of 1865, Ira Steward addressed a crowd of workingmen at Faneuil Hall. Steward read off a list of goals to the crowd, and concluded that

“We rejoice that the rebel aristocracy of the South has been crushed… that beneath the glorious shadow of our flag men of ever clime, lineage and color are free. But… we yet want it to be known that the workingmen of America will in the future claim a more equal share in the wealth their industry creates… and a more equal participation in… those free institutions… defended on many a bloody field of battle.”

Did you have an actual point here, or were you just invoking a famous name as a buzzword?
 
Boomers should appreciate Jagger and the Stones take on prosperity..."You can't always git what you want but you try so hard, to get what you can".
 
Boomers should appreciate Jagger and the Stones take on prosperity..."You can't always git what you want but you try so hard, to get what you can".

There IS an old saying that one's reach should exceed one's grasp. I don't think complacency is really very good for people.
 
Once your hired your bargaining is pretty much done without leaving for a better offer.
We're all Free Agents.

True. And one can work harder and smarter than the others and soon bargain for a higher wage. If one has been been an asset to the company in ways that affect the bottom line, they will in most cases, receive it.
 
Boomers should appreciate Jagger and the Stones take on prosperity..."You can't always git what you want but you try so hard, to get what you can".

There IS an old saying that one's reach should exceed one's grasp. I don't think complacency is really very good for people.

You are against people being satisfied ? It might not be great for the economy but it sure helps my wallet.
 
People should be able to bargain with employers, lobby the government and seek redress in the courts.

They can.

Not really..

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Air_Traffic_Controllers_Organization_(1968)
Primer | Wisconsin Labor History Society

Exactly why is the government getting involved and telling people what they may and may not do in regards to how they deal with employers?

If you understood the purpose of government, you'd not have to ask this.
Government exists to protect the rights of its people. This includes both the employee and the employer.
 

Because the employer in question IS the government. Who else IS there to set the terms of negotiation with government employees, if not the government?

In some cases yes..and in some cases no. That's not the point.

Make the ability to strike or collectively bargain illegal..is on the whole, Unconstitutional.
Really? What article, section and clause does it violate? Which amendment? How?
 
Boomers should appreciate Jagger and the Stones take on prosperity..."You can't always git what you want but you try so hard, to get what you can".

There IS an old saying that one's reach should exceed one's grasp. I don't think complacency is really very good for people.

You are against people being satisfied ? It might not be great for the economy but it sure helps my wallet.

Contentment is different from complacency.
 

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