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[freetime]

Isostatic rebound is a well known phenomena. It occurs on continental kratons that were compressed into the lithosphere by the great weight of ice upon them. Continents have a lower density due to their being made up primarily of granitic rocks which have a much lower density then the basaltic rocks that make up the ocean floors. The ocean floors are not "expanding", the ocean floors are static due to the aformentioned density differences and the fact that the ocean basins are under quadrillions of tons of water. They are NOT expanding and until the water is removed from them can NEVER expand.

The CU Sea Level Research group disagrees with you.

Why do you think the Glacial Isostatic Adjustment is made?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Isostatic rebound is a well known phenomena. It occurs on continental kratons that were compressed into the lithosphere by the great weight of ice upon them. Continents have a lower density due to their being made up primarily of granitic rocks which have a much lower density then the basaltic rocks that make up the ocean floors. The ocean floors are not "expanding", the ocean floors are static due to the aformentioned density differences and the fact that the ocean basins are under quadrillions of tons of water. They are NOT expanding and until the water is removed from them can NEVER expand.

The CU Sea Level Research group disagrees with you.

Why do you think the Glacial Isostatic Adjustment is made?

Because....just because

 

[daveman]

Isostatic rebound is a well known phenomena. It occurs on continental kratons that were compressed into the lithosphere by the great weight of ice upon them. Continents have a lower density due to their being made up primarily of granitic rocks which have a much lower density then the basaltic rocks that make up the ocean floors. The ocean floors are not "expanding", the ocean floors are static due to the aformentioned density differences and the fact that the ocean basins are under quadrillions of tons of water. They are NOT expanding and until the water is removed from them can NEVER expand.

The CU Sea Level Research group disagrees with you.

Why do you think the Glacial Isostatic Adjustment is made?

Because....just because

To make the ocean levels go up, of course.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The CU Sea Level Research group disagrees with you.

Why do you think the Glacial Isostatic Adjustment is made?

Because....just because

To make the ocean levels go up, of course.

And according to the unread "scientific research" OR posted,there's only a 50% chance Isostatic Rebound is for real in the first place. So its just as likely that the water levels need to be adjusted downward by the same amount

 

[freetime]

Because....just because

That sea basins in some areas are expanding isn't even debatable. It is an established fact.

 

[daveman]

Because....just because

To make the ocean levels go up, of course.

And according to the unread "scientific research" OR posted,there's only a 50% chance Isostatic Rebound is for real in the first place. So its just as likely that the water levels need to be adjusted downward by the same amount

It doesn't matter what they do -- the Faithful will repeat what they're told, and believe that EVERYTHING is evidence of global wamercoolering. And we're all gonna die...unless we embrace global socialism.

 

[westwall]

Because....just because

That sea basins in some areas are expanding isn't even debatable. It is an established fact.

Really? Please provide links.

 

[code1211]

Real scientists would rather die than fake data.

Did you know that prior to Einstein's Theory of General Relativity, the orbit of the planet Mercury did not fit into Newton's models? Had those scientists been Warmers they would have altered their readings to make it fit into Newtons model.

General relativity was able to perfectly account for the variance.

Good thing the Decline hiders weren't at Universities back then

No data was "faked." The adjustments were made to account for the expansion of the sea basin. That this is being made into some sort of supposed "scandal" is pathetic. The CU website explains the exactly why the adjustments are made.

Isostatic rebound is a well known phenomena. It occurs on continental kratons that were compressed into the lithosphere by the great weight of ice upon them. Continents have a lower density due to their being made up primarily of granitic rocks which have a much lower density then the basaltic rocks that make up the ocean floors. The ocean floors are not "expanding", the ocean floors are static due to the aformentioned density differences and the fact that the ocean basins are under quadrillions of tons of water. They are NOT expanding and until the water is removed from them can NEVER expand.

Even were the water removed it is debatable whether they would rise. The "theory" postulated to justify the falsification of the data reminds me of the pre plate tectonic era when the "consensus" theory was that the Earth was shrinking and the mountains were the hard stuff underneath that was resistant to shrinkage.

This is what you refer to as science?

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I often misinterpret this stuff, so why not do it again?

If the ocean basins are expanding and therefore holding more water at an unchanged sea level and/or the continents are rising due to the absence of the ice that was previously weighing them down, then the Size of the Earth should be getting larger. Should it not?

If the land masses are the same size and the ocean basins are larger, the globe must be growing.

Is it?

It seems like this would be a pretty easy thing to measure given the GPS technology. Also seems like this would be producing some pretty cataclysmic results and changing the orbit and the rotation of the planet.

Is the Earth gaining mass or just getting flabby?

 

[skookerasbil]

Isostatic rebound is a concept engineered by scientists to make the sea level seem like it is rising!!!!

How gay.............

 

[skookerasbil]

Global Warming could lead to massive water bulge

Washington DC under the Sea
By Sylvie Barak
Fri Feb 06 2009, 08:28

HUMANITY'S EXCESS could lead to a big fat bulge, scientists have warned. An Oceanic bulge that is, with global warming melting Arctic and Antarctic ice and creating the risk of massive water surges, which threaten to submerge parts of Washington DC and California.

This latest hysterical claim, being shrieked out in high-pitched falsetto by scientists and enviro mentalists alike, is based on studies by University of Toronto boffins who claim that, rather than just uniformly spreading out, water from melted ice caps will gather around North America and the Indian Ocean in an unsightly blob.

Scientists have already floated the idea the world's sea levels are set to rise by about five metres if we don't start switching off lights in the bathroom, or spending inordinate amounts of money we don't have on hybrid cars, but the water bulge factor is new.

According to the Canadian researchers, it all comes down to gravitational attraction, with Antarctic ice sheets pulling surrounding water towards the South Pole. When the ice sheet melts, however, the watery bulge will flood into surrounding oceans, letting sea level near Antarctica drop whilst the sea level everywhere else rises. Apparently.

That's not all, though. Supposedly when the ice melts, the release of pressure could also cause the Antarctic continent to rise up by 100 metres. But as the weight of the ice pressing down on the continental shelf is released, the rock will purportedly spring back, displacing masses of seawater in the process. [Just tried to demo this in the bathtub at home, EPIC FAIL]

The researchers believe the redistributing of this water mass could even change the axis of the Earth's spin, shifting the South Pole by 500 metres west of Antarctica and the North Pole in the opposite direction.

Because the Earth's spin creates bulges of oceanic water in the regions between the equator and the poles, hey presto, new and ever more terrifying bulges will appear and the North American continent had better brace itself for The Day After Tomorrow. Or WaterWorld, with Al Gore playing Kevin Costner.

The Toronto uni scaremongers warn Washington DC could face a 6.3-metre rise in sea level whilst California too would be in the danger zone. But there are also plenty of other boffins out there who reckon this is all frenzied poppycock, and arctic sea ice is actually increasing.

Here in Britain, where the entire nation already ceases to function after just a few centimeters of snow, it probably won't make the slightest bit of difference to the way our infrastructure already doesn't function. But we'll be sad not to be able to use the icy cold bulge water to build snowmen in the garden. µ

L'Inq
New Scientist

Global warming could lead to massive water bulge- The Inquirer











You cant make this shit up s0ns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Glaciers have been melting for the past 14,000 years and mostly of little consequence. If a big ice sheet breaks off...oh well. Them's the breaks

 

[wirebender]

Glaciers have been melting for the past 14,000 years and mostly of little consequence. If a big ice sheet breaks off...oh well. Them's the breaks

Well......sea level has risen some 400 feet or so in the past 14,000 years. You melt back almost 2000 miles of glaciers and that water has to go somewhere. That being the case, I don't see where the hand wringing panic is coming from over the idea that it might rise some more. Living near the ocean carries inherent risks like living in a flood plain, or on an earthquake falult, or in a place where wild fire is a natural and necessary part of the environment. We continue to exit an ice age unless the coming quiet sun drives us back into another one of some magnitude. If that happens, sea level will be the least of our worries.

I can see climate science after some decades of cold hatching plans to increase atmospheric CO2 in an effort to raise temperatures. Won't they be disappointed to be shown, ultimately, that CO2 can not, does not, never has, nor never will increase the temperature?

It might be worth freezing just to have it proven once and for all that they are full of crap.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Glaciers have been melting for the past 14,000 years and mostly of little consequence. If a big ice sheet breaks off...oh well. Them's the breaks

Well......sea level has risen some 400 feet or so in the past 14,000 years. You melt back almost 2000 miles of glaciers and that water has to go somewhere. That being the case, I don't see where the hand wringing panic is coming from over the idea that it might rise some more. Living near the ocean carries inherent risks like living in a flood plain, or on an earthquake falult, or in a place where wild fire is a natural and necessary part of the environment. We continue to exit an ice age unless the coming quiet sun drives us back into another one of some magnitude. If that happens, sea level will be the least of our worries.

I can see climate science after some decades of cold hatching plans to increase atmospheric CO2 in an effort to raise temperatures. Won't they be disappointed to be shown, ultimately, that CO2 can not, does not, never has, nor never will increase the temperature?

It might be worth freezing just to have it proven once and for all that they are full of crap.

It will be like cigarettes in Woody Allen's movie "Sleeper"

 

[skookerasbil]

ANything that is non-static in nature is fair game for the environ-mentalists.......and if you think about it, these scheme is a brilliant one. Take something that is in a constant state of flux and engineer some "science" out of it. Its a fascinating scam...........

 

[RWatt]

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[westwall]

No data was "faked." The adjustments were made to account for the expansion of the sea basin. That this is being made into some sort of supposed "scandal" is pathetic. The CU website explains the exactly why the adjustments are made.

Isostatic rebound is a well known phenomena. It occurs on continental kratons that were compressed into the lithosphere by the great weight of ice upon them. Continents have a lower density due to their being made up primarily of granitic rocks which have a much lower density then the basaltic rocks that make up the ocean floors. The ocean floors are not "expanding", the ocean floors are static due to the aformentioned density differences and the fact that the ocean basins are under quadrillions of tons of water. They are NOT expanding and until the water is removed from them can NEVER expand.

Even were the water removed it is debatable whether they would rise. The "theory" postulated to justify the falsification of the data reminds me of the pre plate tectonic era when the "consensus" theory was that the Earth was shrinking and the mountains were the hard stuff underneath that was resistant to shrinkage.

This is what you refer to as science?

\



I often misinterpret this stuff, so why not do it again?

If the ocean basins are expanding and therefore holding more water at an unchanged sea level and/or the continents are rising due to the absence of the ice that was previously weighing them down, then the Size of the Earth should be getting larger. Should it not?

If the land masses are the same size and the ocean basins are larger, the globe must be growing.

Is it?

It seems like this would be a pretty easy thing to measure given the GPS technology. Also seems like this would be producing some pretty cataclysmic results and changing the orbit and the rotation of the planet.

Is the Earth gaining mass or just getting flabby?

No, the Earth is not expanding. The weight of the continental glaciation compressed the continental kratons into the mantle of the planet. When the ice melted the kratons are then able rebound back to their normal position. Imagine a beach ball and you press down on it with your finger. The area of the depression is readily identifiable so long as you keep your finger in it. Remove the finger at it rebounds to its original shape. The continental ice sheets were the fingers in the beach ball.

The rebound in the Great Lakes region has been calculated at about 1 inch per year. Roughly the same velocity as the Himalaya are rising through continental collision.

 

[westwall]

Isostatic rebound is a concept engineered by scientists to make the sea level seem like it is rising!!!!

How gay.............

No, isostatic rebound is real. The alarmists attempting to make it do what it can't is what's silly.

 

[Sunshine]

Rising seal level. Ice ages. Reversal of the poles. Just the planet's way of reclaiming herself.

 

[daveman]

Rising seal level. Ice ages. Reversal of the poles. Just the planet's way of reclaiming herself.

Take it Back
Pink Floyd

Her love rains down on me easy as the breeze
I listen to her breathing it sounds like the waves on the sea
I was thinking all about her, burning with rage and desire
We were spinning into darkness; the earth was on fire

She could take it back, she might take it back someday

So I spy on her, I lie to her, I make promises I cannot keep
Then I hear her laughter rising, rising from the deep
And I make her prove her love for me, I take all that I can take
And I push her to the limit to see if she will break

She might take it back, she could take it back some day

Now I have seen the warnings, screaming from all sides
It's easy to ignore them and G-d knows I've tried
All this temptation, it turned my faith to lies
Until I couldn't see the danger or hear the rising tide

She can take it back, she will take it back some day
She can take it back, she will take it back some day
She can take it back, she will take it back some day

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