She cried rape — and no one helped

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    By Mike Celizic
    TODAYShow.com contributor
    updated 8:33 a.m. CT, Wed., April 8, 2009
    The young woman had been attacked in full view of a New York City subway clerk, then dragged down the steps onto a deserted platform where she was raped and raped again, the assailant not stopping even when a subway train pulled into the station.

    Now, after nearly four years of constant nightmares, bouts of depression and anxiety, the woman has been told by a judge that two transit workers who saw her being attacked had no obligation to do anything to help her other than to signal their superiors that police were needed at the station.

    In response, the woman, who asks to be identified only by her first name, Maria, is going public with her story in the hope that something will be done to save other women from enduring a similar nightmare


    She cried rape — and no one helped - TODAY People





    Fox News Reported this morning the Judge threw her case out of court. "There is no duty to help"





    And that is why I say every American should arm themselves and know how to protect themselves. The cops and the courts aren't going to do it.
     
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    Willow, you know damn well if that woman had a gun and used it on the perp she would have been convicted of murder! This world has gone mad! No common sense!
     
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    As sad as it is, there is no legal duty for anyone else to place themselves in what they consider harms way to help. However, the courts are wrong for tossing this out, the transit workers should have been a little more responsive in calling the police and their own security (which I thought all subways had that). Morally, since they could have overpowered the attacker in numbers they should have done a lot more.
     
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    I remember Nicole Sullivan left Mad TV to go onto other acting gigs. She was on a CSI. She played a woman on the subway. All of the sudden this bum came up from behind her, tore her dress, put the knife to her throat and said, "if you say anything I'll kill you, and then raped her right in front of others who were riding the subway. Most didn't know what was happening, some did and they said nothing.

    When the car stopped, the rapist ran off, and no one said a thing. She stood there victimized, violated and shocked.

    All that has to happen for evil to win is that good men do nothing.

    And it is amazing to me that this could actually happen in real life.

    Sometimes you wonder, "are people generally good or bad".

    I hope good.
     
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    I hate the bystandard effect! I'm not one of those kinds of people. I'm the one guy who will step out from the crowd and speak up.

    Remember Jodie Foster & the Accused? I would have smashed the back of every guys head in that bar that was cheering. OMG, that is one f'ed up scene.

    Yes I may be a "pig" Willow, but as a liberal, I am also very much against hurting other people and/or animals.

    But yes, I am a vulgar pig. I'm sorry if it offended you. Actually, I don't believe it really did bother you that much. You were just trying to get me in trouble. But if it did bother you, sorry kiddo. I went too far.
     
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    As a woman I would have felt obligated to do SOMETHING. If I had a gun, I would have shot the man dead, but unfortunately I can't carry a gun in the People's Republic of New York.

    The men who did nothing are simply cowards. I don't know how they stood by and did nothing as the rapist tortured this woman. Don't they have a conscience?

    I do want to add that it is my belief that this is anomaly and that New Yorkers are generally good samaritans.
     
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    Did you hear about the woman who was attacked by a mountain lion? Bystandards who discovered the cat attacking the woman really put their lives in jeopordy. The cat could have easily turned on them. Regardless, people ran up and threw sticks and rocks and even their own bikes at the wild cat.

    I would feel a lot safer in a busy subway AT LEAST screaming to the men to STOP IT!!! And RAPE!!!!!

    But to walk by and say nothing? I don't think that is even an option.

    Unless I felt like I could possibly be in jeopordy of being attacked. Then I could look the other way. Like, for example, if I were in prison and 3 guys were raping one guy. I would definately mind my own business. Or risk being next.
     
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    What if you were in prison and 3 of the biggest bull dykes were raping another prisoner. Would you get involved knowing that you would be making three enemies? Would you get involved if you knew they'd most likely target you next?

    I think most people don't speak up because they are afraid, not bad.
     
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    let's review some damn things ladies...

    1. do not wear headphones....out in public ...period...you are denying yourself one of your major senses

    2. stay alert....if you are on a car with just a few people and ever one else is getting off...go with them....even if you are late for work or have to wait for another car

    3. do not ever get into a car....fucker has a gun make him kill you then and there...cause aint nothing good gonna happen once you get into that car

    4. you have to watch out for yourself...do it...obvious your surroundings...if someone is touching you...get loud...get mean get ugly...women are not taught to do that...but you have too....

    dont be meek...go for it..go for the eyes..and dont be shy go to put the damn things out..if he grabs you from behind...go for the top of the feet....use your feet..try to get down...you have more lower body strength than upper body strength ...fight..dont stop fighting till you are dead....matter of fact...why not get your butts off the net and take a self defense course....you will learn the oddest little things..take your keys out of your purse before you leave the building or mall...put a key between your fingers so it juts out...it can be a weapon...be aware of your strengths and your weaknesses...you can use pepper spray but that can really piss someone off and they can rage right thru it....if you go for a taser make sure its one that does not have to have body impact....over ride that damn voice saying maybe he just needs directions if the fucker makes you uneasy ....go for it...a taser or spray nothing fatal at this step...if that doesnt stop the advance go for fatal.....now go to a gun range and get use to firing the gun of your choice...o yea and scream....scream fire...hell i dont know why but apparently you got more fire heros than rape heros...go to a self defense glass...

    o and another thing...go out in pairs or more..take a buddy....you know that weird ass guy in the mail rooom....ask him to walk you to your car...he may grimaces and grump a bit...but he will do it...you would be amazed at once the men think about it..how quickly they will begin to walk you to your car or watch you from the window...men arent wanting this to happen either...mall security will walk you to your car...park under the lights...park close...at night is not the time to be power walking from parking lot zed to the mall....

    women die and get raped cause they are too worried about being ladies...we are not taught to fight we are taught nice women do not do that...well to save yourself ...do it...let the inner bitch come out and go for blood....enjoy the warm thick taste of blood....shit inner voice again...sorry....but do ladies take a self defense course...
     

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