Shariah Law or the U.S. Constitution?

Discussion in 'Law and Justice System' started by PoliticalChic, Dec 11, 2011.

  1. PoliticalChic
    Offline

    PoliticalChic Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2008
    Messages:
    55,784
    Thanks Received:
    15,651
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY
    Ratings:
    +24,955
    1. The name at the top of the ballot means naught,...this is the choice:

    A. Income equality, economic central planning, global governance under worldwide socialism.

    B. Equality before the law, free market capitalism, the United States Constitution.

    2. Here's why: "“Shariah Law and American Courts: An Assessment of State Appellate Court Cases,” published by the Center for Security Policy, is one of the most comprehensive studies ...covers more than 600 pages of material. The following summary statement is shocking:

    Our findings suggest that Shariah law has entered into state court decisions, in conflict with the Constitution and state public policy. Some commentators have said there are no more than one or two cases of Shariah law in U.S. state court cases; yet we found 50 significant cases just from the small sample of appellate published cases. Others state with certainty that state court judges will always reject any foreign law, including Shariah law, when it conflicts with the Constitution or state public policy; yet we found 15 Trial Court cases, and 12 Appellate Court cases, where Shariah was found to be applicable in the case at bar. The facts are the facts: some judges are making decisions deferring to Shariah law even when those decisions conflict with Constitutional protections. This is a serious issue and should be a subject of public debate and engagement by policymakers."
    http://shariahinamericancourts.com/...aw_And_American_State_Courts_1.4_06212011.pdf

    3. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is acknowledging the growing effect of international law on Supreme Court decisions, particularly in the areas of the death penalty, race admissions and gay sex: “Our island or lone ranger mentality is beginning to change,” Ginsburg said during a speech to the American Constitution Society, a liberal lawyers group holding its first convention. Justices “are becoming more open to comparative and international law perspectives,” said Ginsburg, who has supported a more global view of judicial decision making. Ginsburg cited an international treaty in her vote . . . to uphold the use of race in college admissions.
    Sharia Law Deciding American Court Cases*|*Godfather Politics

    4. "In 1919 there was an international conference to establish the International Labor Organization (ILO). The plan was that members would vote on labor standards, and member nations would automatically adopt those standards. The American members declined, saying that this would be contrary to the Constitution, specifically, it would be delegating the treaty-making power to an international body: we would be surrendering America’s sovereignty as derived from the Constitution.

    In Medellin vs. Texas (2008), the International Court of Justice ruled that Texas could not execute a convicted murderer. The Supreme Court ruled that decisions of the International Court of Justice are not binding domestic law. The vote was 6 to 3 (Souter, Breyer, Ginsburg). How long before the Supreme Court throws out the Constitution?"
    From a speech by Jeremy Rabkin, professor of law, George Mason School of Law, June 5, 2009

    Let us be clear...this is what your vote means: either you see the United Stateds Constitution as unique, as responsible for the liberty we have enjoyed, or, as explained by a proponent of global governance, "he believed in American exceptionalism. He said he did, "just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism."
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 3
  2. PixieStix
    Offline

    PixieStix Coal Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2009
    Messages:
    14,511
    Thanks Received:
    4,972
    Trophy Points:
    370
    Ratings:
    +5,259
    Sharia Law IS uncontitutional.

    I do not know how anyone could say otherwise
     
  3. whitehall
    Online

    whitehall Gold Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2010
    Messages:
    27,814
    Thanks Received:
    4,341
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Location:
    Western Va.
    Ratings:
    +10,784
    I imagine that there is a segment of the union educated American public who actually think there is a legitimate comparison between Shria law and the US Constitution.
     
  4. C_Clayton_Jones
    Offline

    C_Clayton_Jones Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    41,543
    Thanks Received:
    8,933
    Trophy Points:
    2,030
    Location:
    In a Republic, actually
    Ratings:
    +23,869
    When you can cite a credible, reliable, objective source on the issue, we’ll discuss.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  5. PoliticalChic
    Offline

    PoliticalChic Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2008
    Messages:
    55,784
    Thanks Received:
    15,651
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY
    Ratings:
    +24,955
    Since 2004, the law requires that any school- at any level- that recieves federal funds devote September 17th to teaching the US Constitution....
    ...who knows to what extent?
    ...or what comparisons are used.
     
  6. konradv
    Offline

    konradv Gold Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2010
    Messages:
    22,565
    Thanks Received:
    2,558
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Location:
    Baltimore
    Ratings:
    +5,673
    It used to be "original intent", now it's "sharia law". Just an another attempt to force a particular minority view of the Constituion on the majority. :eusa_boohoo:
     
  7. whitehall
    Online

    whitehall Gold Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2010
    Messages:
    27,814
    Thanks Received:
    4,341
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Location:
    Western Va.
    Ratings:
    +10,784
    We had to pass a law (during the Bush administration) that the greatest document ever written which gave political power to the people for the first time in human history gets a single day in school?
     
  8. FA_Q2
    Offline

    FA_Q2 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2009
    Messages:
    14,302
    Thanks Received:
    2,086
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Location:
    Washington State
    Ratings:
    +4,315
    We wait....
     
  9. bigrebnc1775
    Offline

    bigrebnc1775 Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2010
    Messages:
    64,004
    Thanks Received:
    3,798
    Trophy Points:
    1,790
    Location:
    Kannapolis, N.C.
    Ratings:
    +4,830
    I'll take the Constitution for a 1000
     
  10. PoliticalChic
    Offline

    PoliticalChic Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2008
    Messages:
    55,784
    Thanks Received:
    15,651
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY
    Ratings:
    +24,955
    I note that you have chosen the path of least effort...to criticize the source, rather than the substance. I am fully aware of the work of Frank Gaffney, and have great respect for him and for his work.

    Is the post correct or not?

    The fact that you avoid the essential point is the best indication that you know that the OP is correct.


    Are you going to argue that foreign law of any kind should or could be the basis for court, Supreme Court decisions?
    That Rabkin was incorrect in his warning?

    I thought not.
    I expect a better response from you.
     

Share This Page

Search tags for this page

justice ginsburgh on sharia law