Severe Global Depression by 2030?

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A new study from researchers at Jay W. Forrester's institute at MIT says that the world could suffer from "global economic collapse" and "precipitous population decline" if people continue to consume the world's resources at the current pace.

Smithsonian Magazine writes that Australian physicist Graham Turner says "the world is on track for disaster" and that current evidence coincides with a famous, and in some quarters, infamous, academic report from 1972 entitled, "The Limits to Growth."

Produced for a group called The Club of Rome, the study's researchers created a computing model to forecast different scenarios based on the current models of population growth and global resource consumption. The study also took into account different levels of agricultural productivity, birth control and environmental protection efforts. Twelve million copies of the report were produced and distributed in 37 different languages.

Most of the computer scenarios found population and economic growth continuing at a steady rate until about 2030. But without "drastic measures for environmental protection," the scenarios predict the likelihood of a population and economic crash.

However, the study said "unlimited economic growth" is still possible if world governments enact policies and invest in green technologies that help limit the expansion of our ecological footprint.

The Smithsonian notes that several experts strongly objected to "The Limit of Growth's" findings, including the late Yale economist Henry Wallich, who for 12 years served as a governor of the Federal Research Board and was its chief international economics expert. At the time, Wallich said attempting to regulate economic growth would be equal to "consigning billions to permanent poverty."

Turner says that perhaps the most startling find from the study is that the results of the computer scenarios were nearly identical to those predicted in similar computer scenarios used as the basis for "The Limits to Growth."

"There is a very clear warning bell being rung here," Turner said. "We are not on a sustainable trajectory."

Next Great Depression? MIT researchers predict
 
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the very wealthy are even wealthier in comparison in a world wide depression.


Its good for them.

Its why they caused this last one
 
the very wealthy are even wealthier in comparison in a world wide depression.


Its good for them.

Its why they caused this last one


Do you realize that the rich people are the ones that lose the most wealth in a recession or depression? They do best when times are good, not when they're bad. And your assertion that the rich people caused the last recession is ludricrous. But not unexpected.
 
Nope the wealthy are wealthier in comparions when the rest of us are desperate
 
why do you think they spend so much money to end the protections for regular folks?
 
Sounds like a push for enviro fascists.

The world is certainly looking at an economic calamity to rival 2008 in the very near future though.
 
This is the zero-sum fallacy.

there are a limited amount of resources on this planet.

It is a zero sum game

You say that, but as we get greater tech and learn more about the world around us we find more resources, we improve efficiency with current resources, we recycles old resources. If there is a limit to resources, it is only because governments put a limit on them, not because their are actual limitations. When there have been resource shortages, people have adapted until those shortages can be addressed.

It's not a zero sum game.
 
Doom and gloom sells......I ain't buying. Theyve been calling for the demise of man since Eve bit the apple....
 
there are limited resources on our planet.

To deny that is true is to be a fucking idiot
 
there are limited resources on our planet.

To deny that is true is to be a fucking idiot

It is true that some resources are limited, but it is also true that there are some resources that are not...like people, technology, and innovation.

I get your point about nonrenewable resources and how there is a limit to them, but they will never completely run out because as resources become more scarce they also become more expensive. Therefore, nonrenewable resources will not disappear... they will simple become to expensive to use.
 

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