Seven Samurai vs. Magnificent Seven, why the Mag Seven fails in it's concept...

[rightwinger]

The Clanton's were armed

They were just not the skilled killers that the Earp's were. Isn't that the way it always is with guns?

Nope.....that is the reason guns are so important....even lesser trained people have a chance to survive.....guns are the great equalizer.

Guns turn an ordinary disagreement into a massacre

That is what we learned at the OK Corral

Nope......actual facts show you are wrong....what you had at the O.K. corral was criminals bent on murdering people.....and fortunately, the victims were armed. Of course, gun control continued to work so well after the gun fight....in the gun controlled town, that one of the Earps was murdered by a gun wielding criminal, and another Earp was crippled by one...

There were no criminals and good guys like history has recorded. Just two groups with a petty dispute between them. One normally settled with a heated shouting match or fist fight

But thanks to guns entering the equation, a mere dispute escalates into a massacre

Then thankfully, guns were available for the retaliation

Holy fuck but you're stupid.

I mean that most sincerely.

You are welcome to explain your sentiment.....go at it



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[pinqy]

The Magnificent Seven is now coming out as a remake this friday...so I thought I would point out a thing or two...or really just one thing....

The Seven Samurai worked as a concept because Japan practiced gun control.....or back then Sword/Bow control....peasants were legally barred from owning or practicing weapons and martial arts....the Samurai could murder a peasant caught practising swordsmanship.......it was their right and duty....

So...the Seven Samurai is a about a village of unarmed peasants who are being victimized by a bunch of criminals.....since the adage, when you outlaw guns (swords/bows) only outlaws with have guns (swords/bows)...so they hire 7 armed Samurai to protect their village.......

The original Magnificent Seven, a copy of the Seven Samurai, but with cowboys......came close...they were hired by a Mexican village...also an unarmed people being attacked by armed outlaws...so they had to hire American cowboys who had guns to protect them......

Now we come to the newest version......and it doesn't work...why? Because in the old west....all Americans could own and carry guns for self defense.....so having to hire armed guards isn't as necessary.....since all the people in the village could own and carry guns to use against a gang of bad guys.....

Only unarmed people are victims of mass murder, genocide and ethnic cleansing....and movie outlaws....

Now...I haven't seen the movie...perhaps the village is filled with Quakers......or some other reason...we'll see......

In the original Magnificent Seven, the Mexicans originally went to buy guns, but Chris (Yul Brynner) convinced them it was cheaper to buy men. The villagers did use guns and were trained by the Seven. They didn't have guns and didn't know how to fight not because they weren't allowed, but because they were farmers.

And in Seven Samurai, the bandits had guns, but the Samurai did not.

 

[Divine Wind]

You are welcome to explain your sentiment.....go at it

I'll be happy to do it. Before the Europeans arrived in the New World, there were no guns, but there were massacres, wars, fights and slaves. The problem isn't the tools, but the human equation.

 

[Disir]

Actually, in the old west there were plenty towns you had to turn your guns in when you got there.

Dodge City and Tombstone were two.

Virgil Earp was the cause of both.

In Tombstone, his act was ruled unconstitutional by Judge Spicer during Virgil and Wyatt's trial for the murder of Billy Clanton, Frank and Tom McLaury.

The Earps were acquitted, but Spicer struck down the prohibition of firearms.

Besides that ...it didn't work anyway....as gun control never does....

Actually it worked so well during the summer arrests dropped from 60 a month to 23 and 3 of those arrests were for foul language.