Discussion in 'Clean Debate Zone' started by william the wie, Apr 25, 2017.
Double talk doesnt change the fact both were imposed.
States voted on it, and passed it.
Federal judges struck down bans on it.
The Supreme Court struck down a ban on it.
Thank goodness we have the Fourteenth Amendment.
Both were imposed.....the states that passed anto gay marriage laws like blue state MN and CA did so in response to the judicial activism and yes they were overturned thus the imposed. That An arguemnet can be made against anything, has no bearing on its merrits and thus thats a worthless point
Do you think the Defense of Marriage Act was Constitutional? If so, why?
First explain how the Clintons and Obama were for DOMA before they were against it.......btw most of the follow on that was predicted that the left mocked is happening......
I think it was for political purposes, but I do think gay marriage is Constitutional as it has been ruled as such and therefore it's a good thing a ban on it was struck down.
Now that bans on gay marriage have been struck down the effects needs to be chipped away.
FWIW, my opinions:
Gay Marriage: Who cares? Marry who you want, just don't expect anyone, especially the government, to give a damn. Get the government out of the bedroom, and out of marriage. Put a system in place to appoint someone as your medical and/or financial proxy for when the time comes that you can no longer look after your own affairs. Oh, wait a second here, that has already been done.
Roe v. Wade: Again, who cares? If you, as a woman, want to have an abortion, can pay for it, and have found someone to do it, have at it. That's between you, your "doctor", the "father", and your God (if you believe in one). I see no room for the government in anyone's uterus. Now, if the "father" wants the baby, once it's carried to birth, then we have another matter altogether. Not sure where I stand on this one, yet, but government, through civil courts, may well have a role to play here.
So you oppose the prosecution of Kermit Gosnell? And what rights does the "father" have? Hmm?
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