Serious question: why are Democrats so angry and violent

[Truthmatters]

OWS make a point right from the begining they wanted NO party to be involved

 

[blackhawk]

New film coming out called "Occupy Unmasked" which is a documentary about the OWS movement. In the movie, there is the most obscene forms of language, violence, actions, etc. There are people on film warning Fox News, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, etc. NOT to come down there.

Why are they so intolerant? Sean Hannity has stated how he can take liberal media like Alan Colmes, Juan Williams, etc. on the floor of the Republican National Convention and they are treated VERY well - people say hello to them, shake hands, etc. But if a conservative media persona goes onto the floor of the Democrat National Convention, they are attacked, sworn at, belittled, etc.

What an intolerant, hateful bunch.....

I wouldn't classify the OWS people as Democrat or at least not mainstream Democrats it might have started that way but it quickly got taken over anarchist and nut jobs who had no real ties to a party or any real goals other than just to make noise and cause trouble. I do see your point to a degree on this board you still see a lot of anger and hate from at least some of the left despite the Obama win I'm not really sure what is keeping them honked off I'm not sure they even know.

the fringe left and the right wingers are hateful and angry, but the right wing is no longer truly fringe as it has a very powerful seat at the t able within the GOP.

the far left has what? GITMO closed? Troops out of Afghanistan? Dept of PEace?

Socialism? Yeah, Obamacare will be a boon for private insurance companies.

The hate on the right is mainstream GOP

Standard liberal talking points try something original next time please.

 

[Truthmatters]

there will be some like these people here that the republican party will just have to let walk away from the party if they ever want to win another national election

 

[WillowTree]

New film coming out called "Occupy Unmasked" which is a documentary about the OWS movement. In the movie, there is the most obscene forms of language, violence, actions, etc. There are people on film warning Fox News, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, etc. NOT to come down there.

Why are they so intolerant? Sean Hannity has stated how he can take liberal media like Alan Colmes, Juan Williams, etc. on the floor of the Republican National Convention and they are treated VERY well - people say hello to them, shake hands, etc. But if a conservative media persona goes onto the floor of the Democrat National Convention, they are attacked, sworn at, belittled, etc.

What an intolerant, hateful bunch.....

they hate rich white people, they hate white people, they hate successful white people. they just hate us.

 

[SniperFire]

They love their Obama Phones and other free gubmint stuff.

 

[emilynghiem]

New film coming out called "Occupy Unmasked" which is a documentary about the OWS movement. In the movie, there is the most obscene forms of language, violence, actions, etc. There are people on film warning Fox News, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, etc. NOT to come down there.

Why are they so intolerant? Sean Hannity has stated how he can take liberal media like Alan Colmes, Juan Williams, etc. on the floor of the Republican National Convention and they are treated VERY well - people say hello to them, shake hands, etc. But if a conservative media persona goes onto the floor of the Democrat National Convention, they are attacked, sworn at, belittled, etc.

What an intolerant, hateful bunch.....

Dear Rottweiler: The Democrats have to appear to support the Occupy volunteers on some things, or else they are prime targets for attack. There were more Occupy protestors outside the Dem convention than in Florida protesting the GOP. The Occupy group in Houston was distributing flyers to expose Obama passing worse extensions and added powers to the Patriot Act type policies, trying to warn people how more and more invasion of privacy and criminalization without due process was coming on. So maybe they are pissed off that everyone assumes they are in with the Democrats, and not taking their protests seriously about the Democrats as well. In Houston anyway, the Greens were the ones providing the most support to keep the Occupy activists working and meeting especially after they were disbanded from the local city park. And the Peace and Justice activists who are more antiwar than the Democrats who hijack their vote every year just to go against it, were also the ones trying to mentor these younger activists to work on issues on a sustainable basis.

As for the angry stupidity, because of the lack of any type of screening or structure in the Occupy group, there were criminals and totally screwed up people coming out there. This messed me up when I was trying to find the serious college students to work on real solutions to solve political problems that the major parties are missing by wasting resources bashing each other. The criminal element turned on a lot of the good activists and even bullied them off the projects till they failed. So that accounts for some of the more interesting characters you will see targeted in these videos. The legalistic authoritative types, who like to be in charge and tell everyone else what to do, but the people with any sense were doing the organizing work behind the scenes, trying to network to put together real programs and resources that could SOLVE the problems instead of bitching about them. So you won't see the problem-solvers in the media, only the wilder types that get all the attention, whether it's for credit or discredit. I met some extremely astute and forward thinking activists who organized despite the bigger messes caused by the homeless and criminal people they couldn't control because there was no organization. I still hold Occupy responsible for paying back damages caused by this, but there is no accountability in an anonymous mob group, which was the point. So they ended up abusing the same collective tactics to bully politically they were accusing Corporations of using to skirt accountability and bully through govt abuse.

By the time you protest all the corruption going on, you end up being angry at everyone and even divided against yourself. As one peace and justice advocate said of the Occupy movement, the minute they took a divisive stance of "them vs. us" the 99% vs the 1% then you have already defeated your own purpose. The division into two groups is going to self-destruct, and the only way to keep a sustainable platform is to remain all inclusive where you see the people and groups you want to change as connected not divided from yourself, so that you are responsible for change not projecting the blame or change outside yourself.

All this anger is stockpiled and backlogged from never having organized and tried to fix anything before. So it is the first step, to express and organize. By the time these people actually try to go through the motions of setting up leadership and programs to get objectives defined and met, then guess what, you go through the same learning curve as the govt and parties and corporations you are griping about that you don't want to become. You don't learn how hard it is until you try to organize and work with people/resources yourself. So that is where the Occupy movement brought people together who had never led before, where they are starting from the grassroots, and either working together or falling apart. The serious activists found ways to integrate the push for reforms WITHIN the given structures of politics and capitalism and the school system in order to make things work over time; the ones who are seen protesting and attacking the whole system as repressive are just using the negative media game to grab attention, but it's the other people doing the work behind the scenes.

So you will see the angry crazy statements in the media, but you may NEVER see the positive innovative people, who will continue working within the system to correct problems in a logical systemic way, while others will finish venting their anger and go work on other things.

I found real potential to change in all the Occupy people I met and worked with, even the really messed up ones with serious issues, they were just all in different stages of personal and political development. So I tried to match each one to projects and support them in getting stabilized where they could work in meaningful ways. Some really did well and moved up toward sustainable projects, and others are still struggling with their own issues. I have respect for their efforts to learn to work as a group for the first time, but they fell short in taking responsibility for the costs to the public for their expensive learning curve. I still hope to work with the serious activists on getting that paid back, by doing collective fundraising and investing in longterm projects that benefit the public that had to pay for all the mess.

Sorry for the long response, but I studied what was going on in Houston anyway by working with different activists who were on completely different levels, and I saw a wide range from extremely competent to completely messed up, but we tried to fix as much as we could, even when some of them turned their anger and started attacking and sabotaging me. I saw it all, and it gave me insight on how much work it will take to accommodate this learning curve. So that anyone can be mentored to become productive, starting with the homeless addicts to the most experienced advocates who can work with any group and keep them manageable.

I believe in taking the good with the bad, and just ask the good activists to share responsibility for the costs caused by the damages and debts to taxpayers for the protests. It's fine to exercise free speech, but someone is paying for, so if the message is to take responsibility of govt back from corporate abuses then practice what you preach first!
That is what I learned from all this, and still working out plans for longterm reforms.

 

[Truthmatters]

video of riots at Ole Miss - Bing Videos

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Don't get it twisted. Who was it promoting/cheering letting the hypothetical victim die is he did not have health insurance (remember the republican primaries debates). And who was it booing the gay soldier serving our country in Iraq (once again at the republican primaries debates). Don't forget the bullseyes on all the Democrat politicians. Talk about anger and violence--republicans have the market cornered on both.

.....Especially the alcohol-fried ones......like Breitbart....


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NzHHQASizE]Andrew Breitbart Screaming At Protesters - YouTube[/ame]
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[Stephanie]

I wouldn't classify the OWS people as Democrat or at least not mainstream Democrats it might have started that way but it quickly got taken over anarchist and nut jobs who had no real ties to a party or any real goals other than just to make noise and cause trouble. I do see your point to a degree on this board you still see a lot of anger and hate from at least some of the left despite the Obama win I'm not really sure what is keeping them honked off I'm not sure they even know.

the fringe left and the right wingers are hateful and angry, but the right wing is no longer truly fringe as it has a very powerful seat at the t able within the GOP.

the far left has what? GITMO closed? Troops out of Afghanistan? Dept of PEace?

Socialism? Yeah, Obamacare will be a boon for private insurance companies.

The hate on the right is mainstream GOP

Standard liberal talking points try something original next time please.

no kidding
and Mr. Dante has no room to talk about others and hate..

 

[kiwiman127]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7kS3Ic4-lE]Video: OWS protesters interrupt Obama's speech - YouTube[/ame]