Serial Killers/rapists Liked Porn First

All serial killers have a perverted sexual appetite and a strange connection between violence and sexual pleasure. It develops early in life (read Unkotare) and is fed by the objectifying view of women and men that pornography promotes.
That pornography, and the progressive bloc, promotes.
 
All serial killers have a perverted sexual appetite and a strange connection between violence and sexual pleasure. It develops early in life (read Unkotare) and is fed by the objectifying view of women and men that pornography promotes.

Or is it their interest in pornography fed by their appetite for sexual acts they can't express in real life? It's strictly a horse/cart thing and while the point of view presented here has intuitive appeal, there's no strong consensus that pornographic fantasy encourages real violence. Some people argue it's an outlet that diffuses unacceptable urges. I'm not sure I buy that, but it's not as clear cut as it first seems.
 
So? If these monsters also enjoyed eggs on toast does that mean people that enjoy eggs on toast are more likely to be serial killers? Not hardly.

Oh..the point.

The point is that when people say that porn is acceptable, they're full of shit.

Clearly you have an issue with porn but why should you get to dictate what adults do with their free time? It's really none of business actually. It may be not acceptable to you but this a free society and people should have a choice if they wish to view porn or not. We don't need you or the government making those choices for us.


The problem with porn is that the industry itself spreads disease and and abuses women and children. It uses money paid by people who ALSO engage in abusive, illegal behavior and then pays people to lobby for legislation that relaxes the restrictions on those activities.

But that's not exactly what I'm arguing in this thread. My point in this thread isn't that you shouldn't look at porn. I don't give a shit if you look at porn.

My point is that the lunatics who say we must have porn or we'll have more serial rapists are lying sacks of shit.
 
All serial killers have a perverted sexual appetite and a strange connection between violence and sexual pleasure. It develops early in life (read Unkotare) and is fed by the objectifying view of women and men that pornography promotes.

Or is it their interest in pornography fed by their appetite for sexual acts they can't express in real life? It's strictly a horse/cart thing and while the point of view presented here has intuitive appeal, there's no strong consensus that pornographic fantasy encourages real violence. Some people argue it's an outlet that diffuses unacceptable urges. I'm not sure I buy that, but it's not as clear cut as it first seems.

Pornography is not a healthy form of entertainment in general, not to mention that most of the people involved in the business of it are sad individuals would should have sought psychological counseling.

There's nothing good in it, truly. And yes, I have seen my share, but stopped many years ago as I eventually saw nothing but damaged people who were someone's daughter.
 
All serial killers have a perverted sexual appetite and a strange connection between violence and sexual pleasure. It develops early in life (read Unkotare) and is fed by the objectifying view of women and men that pornography promotes.

Or is it their interest in pornography fed by their appetite for sexual acts they can't express in real life? It's strictly a horse/cart thing and while the point of view presented here has intuitive appeal, there's no strong consensus that pornographic fantasy encourages real violence. Some people argue it's an outlet that diffuses unacceptable urges. I'm not sure I buy that, but it's not as clear cut as it first seems.

Pornography is not a healthy form of entertainment in general, not to mention that most of the people involved in the business of it are sad individuals would should have sought psychological counseling.

There's nothing good in it, truly. And yes, I have seen my share, but stopped many years ago as I eventually saw nothing but damaged people who were someone's daughter.

I tend to agree. There are many good arguments against porn. I'm merely taking issue with the correlation in the OP. It doesn't really hold water.
 
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  • Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer of Wisconsin, speaking of his routine before hunting for a victim said, “Just…using pictures of past victims…the pornography videos, the magazines…” Jeffrey Dahmer killed 17 boys and men.
  • Ted Bundy, convicted rapist and mutilation murderer of Washington, said that hard-core pornography had a "crystallizing effect" on his violent tendencies and his acting out during the 1970s.
  • Arthur Gary Bishop from Utah, executed for raping and murdering five boys in the 1980s, said pornography's "effect on me was devastating."
  • Andrei Chikatilo, a Russian serial killer, murdered at least 53 women and children. "…with pictures of naked women in his prison cell, he blamed pornography as the cause of this troubles."
  • Wisconsin resident Ed Gein, the first serial killer, aka The Butcher of Plainfield, and inspiration for movies such as Psycho, Maniac, and The Silence of the Lambs "accumulated a library of anatomy books, porn magazines, horror and adventure novel…" in the 1950s.
  • John Wayne Gacy's wife filed for divorce in 1976 because "Gacy's moods had become erratic, and [she] had found Gacy's pornographic magazine collection which was all centered around young boys." Gacy killed at least 33 young men and boys in Chicago, Illinois.
  • The nickname BTK (bind, torture, kill) was given to Dennis Rader, a Kansas native, who killed 10 people. "He kept meticulous records of his fantasies and crimes in what he called his 'mother lode' collection of pornography."
  • David Berkowitz killed over a dozen people in New York. He joined a cult and was introduced to "drug use, sadistic pornography and violent crime." The cult also created and distributed child pornography.
  • Richard Ramirez was exposed to explicit pictures of his cousin "raping Vietnamese women and severing the heads of Vietcong soldiers." He in turn killed at least 13 people in California.
  • Edmund Kemper, a California serial killer and necrophile known as the Co-ed Killer, used pornography and detective magazines for erotic stimulation; he picked up women who were hitch-hiking, then killed, and raped them post-mortem.
  • Ottis Toole from Florida became obsessed with gay pornography. He "committed his first murder at the age of 14." During his killing spree, accompanied by Henry Lee Lucas, he killed 108 people.
  • The Grim Sleeper, Lonnie Franklin Jr., "had a penchant for prostitutes and pornography." A resident of LA, he would pick up prostitutes, take pornographic pictures of his victims, then strangle them to death. His killing spree included 11 murders.
  • In the 2013 murder case of Tia Sharp, a 12-year-old girl from the UK, the judge declared to murderer Stuart Hazell, "the records of your internet searching on your mobile phone make abundantly clear that you were looking out for pornographic pictures of pre-teen girls."
  • In 2013, on the day Mark Bridger, a UK native,abducted April Jones, he "viewed online photographs of a young girl and a pornographic cartoon depicting...rape."
What Serial Killers and Murderers think about Pornography Net Nanny


What you fail to prove is whether porn turns people into batshit crazy sexual deviates or whether batshit crazy sexual deviates are attracted to porn
 
All serial killers have a perverted sexual appetite and a strange connection between violence and sexual pleasure. It develops early in life (read Unkotare) and is fed by the objectifying view of women and men that pornography promotes.

Or is it their interest in pornography fed by their appetite for sexual acts they can't express in real life? It's strictly a horse/cart thing and while the point of view presented here has intuitive appeal, there's no strong consensus that pornographic fantasy encourages real violence. Some people argue it's an outlet that diffuses unacceptable urges. I'm not sure I buy that, but it's not as clear cut as it first seems.

Pornography is not a healthy form of entertainment in general, not to mention that most of the people involved in the business of it are sad individuals would should have sought psychological counseling.

There's nothing good in it, truly. And yes, I have seen my share, but stopped many years ago as I eventually saw nothing but damaged people who were someone's daughter.

I tend to agree. There are many good arguments against porn. I'm merely taking issue with the correlation in the OP. It doesn't really hold water.

The only point the correlation is meant to illustrate is that watching porn doesn't prevent men from turning into predators.
 
There is a far worse problem and that's of female teachers raping school children. Time to purge our schools of women and bring in male teachers in order to protect the children.


Let's hope they're not sexually repressed.

I'm still wondering why this thread is in the religious section.

Yo Carla, did you say this? See quote below from Avatar's message up above.

Women too.

===

Many serial killers/mass shooters also set fires, wet the bed and tortured animals.

And ... ?

well it certainly undermines Carla 's if you don't watch porn and masturbate you will be a serial rapist argument.

which I think was the point



He has things turned around as usual.

I was talking about sexual repression, which can lead to rape, as we've witnessed with the Catholic Church, for example.

He does that a lot.

A whole lot.

so she lies and you just blindly believe her even though you can check the thread yourself. T
There is a far worse problem and that's of female teachers raping school children. Time to purge our schools of women and bring in male teachers in order to protect the children.


Let's hope they're not sexually repressed.

I'm still wondering why this thread is in the religious section.

Yo Carla, did you say this? See quote below from Avatar's message up above.

Women too.

===

Many serial killers/mass shooters also set fires, wet the bed and tortured animals.

And ... ?

well it certainly undermines Carla 's if you don't watch porn and masturbate you will be a serial rapist argument.

which I think was the point



He has things turned around as usual.

I was talking about sexual repression, which can lead to rape, as we've witnessed with the Catholic Church, for example.

He does that a lot.

A whole lot.

Carla lies and rather than look for yourself, you believe her. Talk about blind faith.

Can't say I am surprised.


Actually, you do have a habit of twisting things.
 
All serial killers have a perverted sexual appetite and a strange connection between violence and sexual pleasure. It develops early in life (read Unkotare) and is fed by the objectifying view of women and men that pornography promotes.

Or is it their interest in pornography fed by their appetite for sexual acts they can't express in real life? It's strictly a horse/cart thing and while the point of view presented here has intuitive appeal, there's no strong consensus that pornographic fantasy encourages real violence. Some people argue it's an outlet that diffuses unacceptable urges. I'm not sure I buy that, but it's not as clear cut as it first seems.

Pornography is not a healthy form of entertainment in general, not to mention that most of the people involved in the business of it are sad individuals would should have sought psychological counseling.

There's nothing good in it, truly. And yes, I have seen my share, but stopped many years ago as I eventually saw nothing but damaged people who were someone's daughter.

I tend to agree. There are many good arguments against porn. I'm merely taking issue with the correlation in the OP. It doesn't really hold water.

The only point the correlation is meant to illustrate is that watching porn doesn't prevent men from turning into predators.


And no one said it did, you big dummy.
 
All serial killers have a perverted sexual appetite and a strange connection between violence and sexual pleasure. It develops early in life (read Unkotare) and is fed by the objectifying view of women and men that pornography promotes.

Or is it their interest in pornography fed by their appetite for sexual acts they can't express in real life? It's strictly a horse/cart thing and while the point of view presented here has intuitive appeal, there's no strong consensus that pornographic fantasy encourages real violence. Some people argue it's an outlet that diffuses unacceptable urges. I'm not sure I buy that, but it's not as clear cut as it first seems.

Pornography is not a healthy form of entertainment in general, not to mention that most of the people involved in the business of it are sad individuals would should have sought psychological counseling.

There's nothing good in it, truly. And yes, I have seen my share, but stopped many years ago as I eventually saw nothing but damaged people who were someone's daughter.

I tend to agree. There are many good arguments against porn. I'm merely taking issue with the correlation in the OP. It doesn't really hold water.

The only point the correlation is meant to illustrate is that watching porn doesn't prevent men from turning into predators.

It proves it doesn't prevent all men from turning into predators, but doesn't prove that it can prevent some. You have no way of knowing who "wasn't" a predator but otherwise could have been
 
All serial killers have a perverted sexual appetite and a strange connection between violence and sexual pleasure. It develops early in life (read Unkotare) and is fed by the objectifying view of women and men that pornography promotes.

Or is it their interest in pornography fed by their appetite for sexual acts they can't express in real life? It's strictly a horse/cart thing and while the point of view presented here has intuitive appeal, there's no strong consensus that pornographic fantasy encourages real violence. Some people argue it's an outlet that diffuses unacceptable urges. I'm not sure I buy that, but it's not as clear cut as it first seems.

Pornography is not a healthy form of entertainment in general, not to mention that most of the people involved in the business of it are sad individuals would should have sought psychological counseling.

There's nothing good in it, truly. And yes, I have seen my share, but stopped many years ago as I eventually saw nothing but damaged people who were someone's daughter.

I tend to agree. There are many good arguments against porn. I'm merely taking issue with the correlation in the OP. It doesn't really hold water.

The only point the correlation is meant to illustrate is that watching porn doesn't prevent men from turning into predators.

It proves it doesn't prevent all men from turning into predators, but doesn't prove that it can prevent some. You have no way of knowing who "wasn't" a predator but otherwise could have been

Here's what we know at the very least- porn gives men an unhealthy view of women and an unrealistic expectation of what sexual pleasure is. It degrades the relationship between men and women by objectifying something which is charged with emotion and physical interaction.

I personally wold love to see it banned, even though that will never happen.
 
Or is it their interest in pornography fed by their appetite for sexual acts they can't express in real life? It's strictly a horse/cart thing and while the point of view presented here has intuitive appeal, there's no strong consensus that pornographic fantasy encourages real violence. Some people argue it's an outlet that diffuses unacceptable urges. I'm not sure I buy that, but it's not as clear cut as it first seems.

Pornography is not a healthy form of entertainment in general, not to mention that most of the people involved in the business of it are sad individuals would should have sought psychological counseling.

There's nothing good in it, truly. And yes, I have seen my share, but stopped many years ago as I eventually saw nothing but damaged people who were someone's daughter.

I tend to agree. There are many good arguments against porn. I'm merely taking issue with the correlation in the OP. It doesn't really hold water.

The only point the correlation is meant to illustrate is that watching porn doesn't prevent men from turning into predators.

It proves it doesn't prevent all men from turning into predators, but doesn't prove that it can prevent some. You have no way of knowing who "wasn't" a predator but otherwise could have been

Here's what we know at the very least- porn gives men an unhealthy view of women and an unrealistic expectation of what sexual pleasure is. It degrades the relationship between men and women by objectifying something which is charged with emotion and physical interaction.

I personally wold love to see it banned, even though that will never happen.

Some times its just look'n at titties
 
Dear koshergrl: What I see is a good point is that these addictions can be identified and screened early
when the danger signs of going "overboard in a sick direction" first start to surface. Similarly Dahmer and others
were found "torturing animals" before they started torturing people. So animal rights and anti-violence groups
did start working together to try to catch and screen cruelty cases, to prevent these from escalating unchecked!

The point others are trying to make, is the porn isn't CAUSING the sickness, but does feed it with people who
have this sickness. Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people. Taking drugs away from people doesn't cure the addiction, but the causes are internal and spiritual and require a LOT DEEPER process to treat, and manage or cure.

On that note, I do agree we need to make it open and accessible for people to get help and treatment for such criminal illness and obsessions, especially dangerous cases.

If we keep demonizing this as "not human" people run from getting help.
We don't demonize cancer and expect people to get checked and diagnosed early!

I have regularly cited sources for diagnosing and treating the spiritual causes of criminal addiction, illness and abuse.

koshergrl if you are one of the people SERIOUS about addressing the issue of criminal illness as a disease that can be diagnosed and either managed by detainment and/or treatment while being detained for public safety reasons,
I totally support this approach in saving lives and ending this fear of getting help when someone first shows danger signs.

The man in Cleveland who kidnapped, raped and killed women for years before he hanged himself in jail
BEGGED and wanted help but had no hope, ran and hid, knowing his obsession was going to lead to worse.

Now look at the testimony of David Berkowitz who was given the help to overcome his spiritual sickness,
and understands that this can be changed if caught early on. He wants to reach out and prevent others from suffering!

Here are the Sources I recommend for national outreach to all communities to report cases and get people help:
http://www.christianhealingmin.com
Healing Is Yours Note: Dr. Phillip Goldfedder is a Jewish neurosurgeon who discovered Christian healing methods worked scientifically after someone demonstrated and proved it to him, and it changed his whole practice to helping people through spiritual counseling to help their minds and bodies heal themselves naturally this way.
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The nonprofit volunteers with her group have helped people receive healing from physical and mental illness including cancer, drug and sex abuse, addictions of all forms from heroin, alcohol, sexual, etc.

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more medical research and development before this becomes public knowledge.

Most of the barrier is from media and mental "segregation" between science and religion,
church and state, that sends the wrong message instead of sharing information
and promoting solutions that all people can agree work naturally.

I posted the above resources on a central blog to promote medical research and
outreach to get this knowledge out to the public: freespiritualhealing Resources for Healing and Forgiveness Therapy

This knowledge would change our entire mental health and criminal justice system to focus on cost-effective
prevention, natural healing and corrective measures instead of letting symptoms, crimes and costs escalate.

"
  • Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer of Wisconsin, speaking of his routine before hunting for a victim said, “Just…using pictures of past victims…the pornography videos, the magazines…” Jeffrey Dahmer killed 17 boys and men.
  • Ted Bundy, convicted rapist and mutilation murderer of Washington, said that hard-core pornography had a "crystallizing effect" on his violent tendencies and his acting out during the 1970s.
  • Arthur Gary Bishop from Utah, executed for raping and murdering five boys in the 1980s, said pornography's "effect on me was devastating."
  • Andrei Chikatilo, a Russian serial killer, murdered at least 53 women and children. "…with pictures of naked women in his prison cell, he blamed pornography as the cause of this troubles."
  • Wisconsin resident Ed Gein, the first serial killer, aka The Butcher of Plainfield, and inspiration for movies such as Psycho, Maniac, and The Silence of the Lambs "accumulated a library of anatomy books, porn magazines, horror and adventure novel…" in the 1950s.
  • John Wayne Gacy's wife filed for divorce in 1976 because "Gacy's moods had become erratic, and [she] had found Gacy's pornographic magazine collection which was all centered around young boys." Gacy killed at least 33 young men and boys in Chicago, Illinois.
  • The nickname BTK (bind, torture, kill) was given to Dennis Rader, a Kansas native, who killed 10 people. "He kept meticulous records of his fantasies and crimes in what he called his 'mother lode' collection of pornography."
  • David Berkowitz killed over a dozen people in New York. He joined a cult and was introduced to "drug use, sadistic pornography and violent crime." The cult also created and distributed child pornography.
  • Richard Ramirez was exposed to explicit pictures of his cousin "raping Vietnamese women and severing the heads of Vietcong soldiers." He in turn killed at least 13 people in California.
  • Edmund Kemper, a California serial killer and necrophile known as the Co-ed Killer, used pornography and detective magazines for erotic stimulation; he picked up women who were hitch-hiking, then killed, and raped them post-mortem.
  • Ottis Toole from Florida became obsessed with gay pornography. He "committed his first murder at the age of 14." During his killing spree, accompanied by Henry Lee Lucas, he killed 108 people.
  • The Grim Sleeper, Lonnie Franklin Jr., "had a penchant for prostitutes and pornography." A resident of LA, he would pick up prostitutes, take pornographic pictures of his victims, then strangle them to death. His killing spree included 11 murders.
  • In the 2013 murder case of Tia Sharp, a 12-year-old girl from the UK, the judge declared to murderer Stuart Hazell, "the records of your internet searching on your mobile phone make abundantly clear that you were looking out for pornographic pictures of pre-teen girls."
  • In 2013, on the day Mark Bridger, a UK native,abducted April Jones, he "viewed online photographs of a young girl and a pornographic cartoon depicting...rape."
What Serial Killers and Murderers think about Pornography Net Nanny
 
Here's what we know at the very least- porn gives men an unhealthy view of women and an unrealistic expectation of what sexual pleasure is. It degrades the relationship between men and women by objectifying something which is charged with emotion and physical interaction.

I personally wold love to see it banned, even though that will never happen.

What about marital porn and erotica? Swinging and swapping between committed couples in safe healthy arrangements
where there isn't emotional or physical abuse going on?

Can't most of the sexy things in porn be done in a context that isn't exploiting aggression or degradation
but is consensual and nonabusive/noncoercive?
 
No, the point they were trying to make (and which is a lie) is that if we discourage kids from accessing PORN, they will become serial rapists.

And it is of course rubbish. Don't lend the morons any credibility, they don't deserve any.
 
And finally, did you stop to think about the Catholic Church, and their ongoing problem with Priests raping young boys? Did you stop to think it might have something to do with sexual repression?

There is a far worse problem and that's of female teachers raping school children. Time to purge our schools of women and bring in male teachers in order to protect the children.
Whaaaaaat?

He's full of crap but that would have the effect of raising teacher's salaries.

Examples of abuse due to the insanity of feminist (pseudo-female) depravity:

Female school principal grills 8-year-old boy about 8220 sexually harassing 8221 a female classmate Women for Men (psychological abuse)
Do Women Molest Children More Than Men The Patriot Dads Weblog
 
"
  • Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer of Wisconsin, speaking of his routine before hunting for a victim said, “Just…using pictures of past victims…the pornography videos, the magazines…” Jeffrey Dahmer killed 17 boys and men.
  • Ted Bundy, convicted rapist and mutilation murderer of Washington, said that hard-core pornography had a "crystallizing effect" on his violent tendencies and his acting out during the 1970s.
  • Arthur Gary Bishop from Utah, executed for raping and murdering five boys in the 1980s, said pornography's "effect on me was devastating."
  • Andrei Chikatilo, a Russian serial killer, murdered at least 53 women and children. "…with pictures of naked women in his prison cell, he blamed pornography as the cause of this troubles."
  • Wisconsin resident Ed Gein, the first serial killer, aka The Butcher of Plainfield, and inspiration for movies such as Psycho, Maniac, and The Silence of the Lambs "accumulated a library of anatomy books, porn magazines, horror and adventure novel…" in the 1950s.
  • John Wayne Gacy's wife filed for divorce in 1976 because "Gacy's moods had become erratic, and [she] had found Gacy's pornographic magazine collection which was all centered around young boys." Gacy killed at least 33 young men and boys in Chicago, Illinois.
  • The nickname BTK (bind, torture, kill) was given to Dennis Rader, a Kansas native, who killed 10 people. "He kept meticulous records of his fantasies and crimes in what he called his 'mother lode' collection of pornography."
  • David Berkowitz killed over a dozen people in New York. He joined a cult and was introduced to "drug use, sadistic pornography and violent crime." The cult also created and distributed child pornography.
  • Richard Ramirez was exposed to explicit pictures of his cousin "raping Vietnamese women and severing the heads of Vietcong soldiers." He in turn killed at least 13 people in California.
  • Edmund Kemper, a California serial killer and necrophile known as the Co-ed Killer, used pornography and detective magazines for erotic stimulation; he picked up women who were hitch-hiking, then killed, and raped them post-mortem.
  • Ottis Toole from Florida became obsessed with gay pornography. He "committed his first murder at the age of 14." During his killing spree, accompanied by Henry Lee Lucas, he killed 108 people.
  • The Grim Sleeper, Lonnie Franklin Jr., "had a penchant for prostitutes and pornography." A resident of LA, he would pick up prostitutes, take pornographic pictures of his victims, then strangle them to death. His killing spree included 11 murders.
  • In the 2013 murder case of Tia Sharp, a 12-year-old girl from the UK, the judge declared to murderer Stuart Hazell, "the records of your internet searching on your mobile phone make abundantly clear that you were looking out for pornographic pictures of pre-teen girls."
  • In 2013, on the day Mark Bridger, a UK native,abducted April Jones, he "viewed online photographs of a young girl and a pornographic cartoon depicting...rape."
What Serial Killers and Murderers think about Pornography Net Nanny


What you fail to prove is whether porn turns people into batshit crazy sexual deviates or whether batshit crazy sexual deviates are attracted to porn

The TYPE of porn also matters. there is a difference between normal porn and the type of porn these guys look at.
 
Here's what we know at the very least- porn gives men an unhealthy view of women and an unrealistic expectation of what sexual pleasure is. It degrades the relationship between men and women by objectifying something which is charged with emotion and physical interaction.

I personally wold love to see it banned, even though that will never happen.

What about marital porn and erotica? Swinging and swapping between committed couples in safe healthy arrangements
where there isn't emotional or physical abuse going on?

Can't most of the sexy things in porn be done in a context that isn't exploiting aggression or degradation
but is consensual and nonabusive/noncoercive?

I find it strange when people feel the need to swap partners in order to be fulfilled in their life, and as much as some people deny it, sex includes highly emotional factors and is often used like a drug when people are unhappy in other ways.

If a married couple wants to play with toys or experiment together in the privacy of their home, more power to them. If they feel the need to invite others along for the ride, they are dissatisfied with each other and ought to examine that rather than use some outward stimuli to fill the void in their life.
 
Here's what we know at the very least- porn gives men an unhealthy view of women and an unrealistic expectation of what sexual pleasure is. It degrades the relationship between men and women by objectifying something which is charged with emotion and physical interaction.

I personally wold love to see it banned, even though that will never happen.

What about marital porn and erotica? Swinging and swapping between committed couples in safe healthy arrangements
where there isn't emotional or physical abuse going on?

Can't most of the sexy things in porn be done in a context that isn't exploiting aggression or degradation
but is consensual and nonabusive/noncoercive?
It can be.

I'm not sure how you make bondage and underage sex appear non-aggressive and non-degrading.
 

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