Senators fly high on taxpayers' dime

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    Sens. John Cornyn and Chuck Schumer each spent more than $140,000 in taxpayer money on travel in the first half of the fiscal year — roughly 10 times as much as some of their thriftier colleagues.

    Cornyn, a Republican, racked up the highest travel bill in the Senate by spending more than $38,000 on a St. Michaels, Md., retreat for 59 staffers and by taking expensive, multicity charter flights throughout his home state of Texas.

    Schumer, a Democrat, ran up the second-highest bill by routinely flying private charters to cities in New York served by commercial airlines.

    On Dec. 2, for example, Schumer spent $4,000 to take a private plane from New York City to Albany and back again. Delta and US Airways both fly that 140-mile route several times a day, with fares ranging from around $400 to less than $200 if purchased in advance.
     
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    Just another reason for direct democracy...
     
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    Boy I'm sure glad that the election of 2008 brought "change I can believe in" to Washington D.C. :cool:
     
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    For sure, that way we could have every special interest street gang in the country voting themselves the authority to rack up $38,000 travel bills using other peoples money. :rolleyes:
     
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    Unlikely. Legitimate direct democracy would entail the abolition of capitalism and thus, the increasing irrelevance of wealth accumulation.
     
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    California has the closest thing to a direct democracy in this country and look at all the good it has done them. :lol:
     
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    That's far off the mark. Really far off the mark. The only legitimately democratic element that I've seen in recent years was the recall of Gray Davis.
     
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    RIIIIGHT... eliminate voluntary cooperation and competition then we can feel good about the least productive exploiting the labor of the most productive not to mention completely redesign human nature while we're at it.... sounds like a utopia to me comrade. :rolleyes:
     
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    You're undoubtedly utopian; your laissez-faire stance necessitates it. However, capitalism neither involves voluntary cooperation, nor does it maximize legitimate competition. For instance, the labor market is characterized by exchange and coercion (consider the role of asset specificity in contracts, for instance), and the nature of market power facilitates concentration that would be avoided in a market socialist economy, for example.

    Moreover, the least productive actively do exploit the labor of the most productive in the capitalist economy, since the subordination of the working class under the financial and coordinator classes ensures the unjust extraction of surplus labor during the production process and subsequent utilization during the circulation process to sustain a vicious cycle of capital accumulation, which is thus based on theft.

    To top it off, advocates of capitalism have perhaps the worst understanding of human nature that I've ever encountered, since they reduce the labor market to a mere collection of factors of production, whereas most socialists understand the human psychology involved. That's why socialists were able to expertly weave the various facets of human nature into their economic theories long ago (consider Kropotkin's Mutual Aid, for example).
     
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    Strawman bullshit like this is why I should have known better than to even bother talking to you. Instead of talking just to hear yourself talk, trying talking TO your intended audience for a change and actually read what they have to say instead of just making up your mind what you want it say and running with it.

    So, let me give your first clue... I don't have a "laissez-faire" stance... now start over.
     

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