Senators demand Trump say whether Saudi prince ordered Khashoggi killing

Are you suggesting that the Saudi royal family be removed from power to satisfy leftists?

It's not going to happen.

I'm pointing out that at some point, they are going to be removed from power, regardless.

The sooner the better.

Remove the royals and the crazed radical Imams lose their power and support base and will disappear in time.
 
Senators have had enough of Donald Trump's disgraceful conduct in defending Mohammed Bin Salman for the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.

Donald Trump is giving the appearance of a Saudi stooge, a man owned by the Saudis and in their pocket.

The grifter Donald Trump and his grifter son-in-law Jared Kushner are profiting from the murder of Jamal Khashoggi by defending the indefensible Mohammed Bin Salman who ordered the murder and butchery.

The Saudis have lied from day one of the disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi.

Senators demand Trump say whether Saudi prince ordered Khashoggi killing

Senators demand Trump say whether Saudi prince ordered Khashoggi killing
By BURGESS EVERETT 11/20/2018 08:11 PM EST

The bipartisan leadership of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is demanding a definitive determination from President Donald Trump about whether Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

In a letter to Trump, the panel’s chairman, Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), and ranking member, Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), specifically asked on Tuesday whether the administration believed that bin Salman was involved in the murder of Khashoggi, who wrote for The Washington Post and was killed in the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul, Turkey, last month. Trump gave no ruling on bin Salman’s involvement in a statement earlier Tuesday that largely sided with Saudi Arabia, declaring that “maybe he did and maybe he didn’t!”
But under the Magnitsky Act, Trump can be required to make a determination about human rights violations by global leaders. The law requires the president to do so within 120 days of the committee’s request, as well as apply any sanctions. Corker and Menendez made their first request on Oct. 10, without specifically asking about bin Salman.

“In light of recent developments, including the Saudi government’s acknowledgment that Saudi officials killed Mr. Khashoggi in its Istanbul consulate, we request that your determination specifically address whether Crown Prince Mohamed [sic] bin Salman is responsible for Mr. Khashoggi’s murder,” the senators said in the letter.
Donald Trump.

FOREIGN POLICY
Trump defiantly refuses to condemn Saudi crown prince for Khashoggi's death
By GABBY ORR

Corker, who is retiring, threw additional jabs at the Trump administration on Twitter. He said Congress would “consider all of the tools at our disposal” moving forward. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) plans to try to block arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

“I never thought I’d see the day a White House would moonlight as a public relations firm for the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia,” Corker said on Twitter.

Corker and Menendez’s first sanctions inquiry citing the Magnitsky Act ultimately resulted in the administration’s sanctioning 17 Saudi Arabian officials following Khashoggi’s death. ...
So you criticize trump for st least being open and honest rather than a dem doing the same thing behind the scenes

Donald Trump is corrupt and is driven by his greed for filthy lucre.
 
Senators have had enough of Donald Trump's disgraceful conduct in defending Mohammed Bin Salman for the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.

Donald Trump is giving the appearance of a Saudi stooge, a man owned by the Saudis and in their pocket.

The grifter Donald Trump and his grifter son-in-law Jared Kushner are profiting from the murder of Jamal Khashoggi by defending the indefensible Mohammed Bin Salman who ordered the murder and butchery.

The Saudis have lied from day one of the disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi.

Senators demand Trump say whether Saudi prince ordered Khashoggi killing

Senators demand Trump say whether Saudi prince ordered Khashoggi killing
By BURGESS EVERETT 11/20/2018 08:11 PM EST

The bipartisan leadership of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is demanding a definitive determination from President Donald Trump about whether Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

In a letter to Trump, the panel’s chairman, Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), and ranking member, Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), specifically asked on Tuesday whether the administration believed that bin Salman was involved in the murder of Khashoggi, who wrote for The Washington Post and was killed in the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul, Turkey, last month. Trump gave no ruling on bin Salman’s involvement in a statement earlier Tuesday that largely sided with Saudi Arabia, declaring that “maybe he did and maybe he didn’t!”
But under the Magnitsky Act, Trump can be required to make a determination about human rights violations by global leaders. The law requires the president to do so within 120 days of the committee’s request, as well as apply any sanctions. Corker and Menendez made their first request on Oct. 10, without specifically asking about bin Salman.

“In light of recent developments, including the Saudi government’s acknowledgment that Saudi officials killed Mr. Khashoggi in its Istanbul consulate, we request that your determination specifically address whether Crown Prince Mohamed [sic] bin Salman is responsible for Mr. Khashoggi’s murder,” the senators said in the letter.
Donald Trump.

FOREIGN POLICY
Trump defiantly refuses to condemn Saudi crown prince for Khashoggi's death
By GABBY ORR

Corker, who is retiring, threw additional jabs at the Trump administration on Twitter. He said Congress would “consider all of the tools at our disposal” moving forward. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) plans to try to block arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

“I never thought I’d see the day a White House would moonlight as a public relations firm for the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia,” Corker said on Twitter.

Corker and Menendez’s first sanctions inquiry citing the Magnitsky Act ultimately resulted in the administration’s sanctioning 17 Saudi Arabian officials following Khashoggi’s death. ...

Half wit Leftists are all up in arms over this murder, yet they blindly ignore generations of public executions within Saudi Arabia for things like being gay. In fact, we are routinely told that Islam is a religion of peace by them and how the Zionist nation should just embrace them with open arms but are evil because they build walls.

Unfortunatly, brain damage is more often than not irreversible.
 
Moral Argument:
JFK declared the US would stand with anyone, bear any burden, pay any price to stand with those who want and are willing to fight for freedom

which you've assumed his relationship w/ the house of saud was all about too, right?

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Donald Trump is corrupt and is driven by his greed for filthy lucre.

He's no different than any potus, or congresscritter

His lies are just more overt

In fact, we are routinely told that Islam is a religion of peace by them and how the Zionist nation should just embrace them

gee, maybe they should both get a room together & sort it out

~S~
 
Another thread............another who the F cares from me. This kind of S happens over there all the time...........

You don't shoot yourself in the foot over it. This is just another TDS syndrome issue...........Finding anything to bitch about.

This guy was best buddies growing up with Osama........Joined the Muslim Brotherhood with him..........why the hell should I give a damn about him.......

The Crime happened in Turkey......let them handle it.
 
Senators have had enough of Donald Trump's disgraceful conduct in defending Mohammed Bin Salman for the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.

Donald Trump is giving the appearance of a Saudi stooge, a man owned by the Saudis and in their pocket.

The grifter Donald Trump and his grifter son-in-law Jared Kushner are profiting from the murder of Jamal Khashoggi by defending the indefensible Mohammed Bin Salman who ordered the murder and butchery.

The Saudis have lied from day one of the disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi.

Senators demand Trump say whether Saudi prince ordered Khashoggi killing

Senators demand Trump say whether Saudi prince ordered Khashoggi killing
By BURGESS EVERETT 11/20/2018 08:11 PM EST

The bipartisan leadership of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is demanding a definitive determination from President Donald Trump about whether Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

In a letter to Trump, the panel’s chairman, Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), and ranking member, Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), specifically asked on Tuesday whether the administration believed that bin Salman was involved in the murder of Khashoggi, who wrote for The Washington Post and was killed in the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul, Turkey, last month. Trump gave no ruling on bin Salman’s involvement in a statement earlier Tuesday that largely sided with Saudi Arabia, declaring that “maybe he did and maybe he didn’t!”
But under the Magnitsky Act, Trump can be required to make a determination about human rights violations by global leaders. The law requires the president to do so within 120 days of the committee’s request, as well as apply any sanctions. Corker and Menendez made their first request on Oct. 10, without specifically asking about bin Salman.

“In light of recent developments, including the Saudi government’s acknowledgment that Saudi officials killed Mr. Khashoggi in its Istanbul consulate, we request that your determination specifically address whether Crown Prince Mohamed [sic] bin Salman is responsible for Mr. Khashoggi’s murder,” the senators said in the letter.
Donald Trump.

FOREIGN POLICY
Trump defiantly refuses to condemn Saudi crown prince for Khashoggi's death
By GABBY ORR

Corker, who is retiring, threw additional jabs at the Trump administration on Twitter. He said Congress would “consider all of the tools at our disposal” moving forward. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) plans to try to block arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

“I never thought I’d see the day a White House would moonlight as a public relations firm for the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia,” Corker said on Twitter.

Corker and Menendez’s first sanctions inquiry citing the Magnitsky Act ultimately resulted in the administration’s sanctioning 17 Saudi Arabian officials following Khashoggi’s death. ...



How would President Trump know who gave the go-ahead to whack Khashoggi? All that the President can say is that he wasn't the one to give the order for this hit.

I guess it could have been Moe Salman, Salman has a quest to eliminate muslim extremism in the world and Khashoggi is an MB radical.

But I don't see where this is a "human rights"violation. Looks like just an execution of an important, highly placed adversary.

BTW, the Americans didn't demand accountability from Von Stauffenberg when he attempted to take out a head of state in 1944. And we we right, BTW. It wasn't a "human rights violation" to administer capital punishment to Khashoggi either.

Maybe we can get the Saudis to send flowers to the widow here?
 
Again, it is so funny how politicians will speak in eloquent diatribes regarding the "moral" high ground that Trump is apparently eroding. But oddly --- there can be no "moral" high ground unless we are a "godly" nation. And the Supreme Court says we cannot be. Those moralists suddenly become secular with respect to the removal of any daily exercise that involves readings from the Bible and hampering abortion in anyway. Such do play "god" with regards to any proclamation defining marriage as "they see fit". In this the governments of the Americas are declaring THEMSELVES good, where no good exists.
 
Again, it is so funny how politicians will speak in eloquent diatribes regarding the "moral" high ground that Trump is apparently eroding. But oddly --- there can be no "moral" high ground unless we are a "godly" nation. And the Supreme Court says we cannot be. Those moralists suddenly become secular with respect to the removal of any daily exercise that involves readings from the Bible and hampering abortion in anyway. Such do play "god" with regards to any proclamation defining marriage as "they see fit". In this the governments of the Americas are declaring THEMSELVES good, where no good exists.
Semantics here.............to push a TDS agenda............

This is Common Sense ground.............We aren't going to erode an alliance over one man..........the Middle East is in a vast civil War..........People are dying every day there.............Coming down on Saudi Arabia would give advantage to Iran..........who chants death to America on a regular basis.........why would we go against our Strategic Interests over this guy.

Pointing out that he dreamed of an Islamic State with Osama way back when as they joined the Muslim Brotherhood makes me wonder where his true loyalties were anyway. Has he forgotten that...........or is his purpose still that buy using the news to push it.

Can you give me examples of pure journalism to show his greatness.............He was murdered...........in Turkey........and I expect them to handle it.
 
The Khashoggi affair

Bradley agrees with the comparison of the Saudi regime to the Mafia in that once you're in there is no way out.

Muslim Brotherhood , which exists to rid the Islamic world of western influence. He was a political Islamist until the end, recently praising the Muslim Brotherhood in the Washington Post. He championed the 'moderate' Islamist opposition in Syria, whose crimes against humanity are a matter of record. Khashoggi frequently sugarcoated his Islamist beliefs with constant references to freedom and democracy. But he never hid that he was in favour of a Muslim Brotherhood arc throughout the Middle East. His recurring plea to bin Salman in his columns was to embrace not western-style democracy, but the rise of political Islam, which the Arab Spring had inadvertently given rise to. For Khashoggi, secularism was the enemy."

Islamic extremists know the words Westerners want to hear and they often use them to fool us into a false sense of complacency and a belief that certain factions within Islam do not want to impose Sharia law on everyone and that Jihad is something other than what it looks like.

What Khashoggi really stood for, reportedly, is a separate issue.
 
Half wit Leftists are all up in arms over this murder, yet they blindly ignore generations of public executions within Saudi Arabia for things like being gay. In fact, we are routinely told that Islam is a religion of peace by them and how the Zionist nation should just embrace them with open arms but are evil because they build walls.

Unfortunatly, brain damage is more often than not irreversible.

Uh, guy, nobody is being executed for being gay in Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia criticised for 48 beheadings in four months of 2018

Saudi Arabia has one of the world’s highest rates of execution: suspects convicted of terrorism, homicide, rape, armed robbery and drug trafficking face the death penalty.

Also, the Zionist Entity should give back that land because they STOLE it.

But on to the important stuff. Um, yeah, a country executing people outside of its borders REALLY IS A BIG DEAL. it violates all sorts of international agreements. Particularly if the person executed didn't actually commit any crimes other than annoying their rulers.

You know what, there might be a good reason to continue this Faustian Bargain with the House of Saud. The first thing we need to do before having that discussion is making sure they don't have their financial hooks into our White HOuse.

A complete audit of the Trump Organization and its' ties to Saudi Arabia is in order, don't you think?
 
Muslim Brotherhood , which exists to rid the Islamic world of western influence. He was a political Islamist until the end, recently praising the Muslim Brotherhood in the Washington Post. He championed the 'moderate' Islamist opposition in Syria, whose crimes against humanity are a matter of record. Khashoggi frequently sugarcoated his Islamist beliefs with constant references to freedom and democracy. But he never hid that he was in favour of a Muslim Brotherhood arc throughout the Middle East. His recurring plea to bin Salman in his columns was to embrace not western-style democracy, but the rise of political Islam, which the Arab Spring had inadvertently given rise to. For Khashoggi, secularism was the enemy."

So why do we keep sticking our nose into the Islamic World?

Our policy is to keep sticking our dicks in a hornets nest and then complain about getting stung.

Leave the Hornets alone... What a crazy idea.
 

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