Senator Denounces Federal Budget Bill as 'Trojan Horse' to Fund New Health Care Law

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A Republican senator on Thursday denounced the $18 billion in provisions added to a catchall spending bill to keep the government running through next year, saying they're a "Trojan horse to fund the new federal health care law."

The Senate will decide the fate of the $1.2 trillion budget bill that narrowly passed the House Wednesday night and would keep the government running through September of next year. But Senate Democrats are planning to add more money, including thousands of pet projects sought by lawmakers.

Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., noted that the Senate version would provide $19 million to the IRS for dictating health insurance under the new law; $6.25 billion to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for new health reform programs, and $210 million to the Health Resources and Services Administration for public health workforce programs




Senator Denounces Federal Budget Bill as 'Trojan Horse' to Fund New Health Care Law - FoxNews.com







I personally cannot wait til these stupid demonRats go home.
 
Coburn noted that the bill spends $12 million on an unelected panel of bureaucrats that Coburn says "will issue costly mandates, make coverage decisions for all Americans, and could deny patient choice under the guise of 'prevention.'"

Twelve million for the death panel. Hooray. Hooray.
 
Fact. The Repubs rejected any aid for those that selflessly answered this nations call on 9-11, holding that aid hostage to tax breaks for the very wealthy. Tax breaks that will have to be paid for by borrowing money. The very antithesis of fiscal sanity and morality.

What the Dems need to do is pass the budget, then go home. Come back on 2Jan11, and let the Repubs squack and holler. They don't have enough votes in the Senate to do anything about that. And we all know who has held up money for the people thrown out of work by the criminals that the Repubs support.
 
Fact. The Repubs rejected any aid for those that selflessly answered this nations call on 9-11, holding that aid hostage to tax breaks for the very wealthy. Tax breaks that will have to be paid for by borrowing money. The very antithesis of fiscal sanity and morality.

What the Dems need to do is pass the budget, then go home. Come back on 2Jan11, and let the Repubs squack and holler. They don't have enough votes in the Senate to do anything about that. And we all know who has held up money for the people thrown out of work by the criminals that the Repubs support.

Two sides to that coin, the Democrats didn't present an independent Bill for a straight vote for those first responders. They had the votes to pass it and played politics.
 
Fact. The Repubs rejected any aid for those that selflessly answered this nations call on 9-11, holding that aid hostage to tax breaks for the very wealthy. Tax breaks that will have to be paid for by borrowing money. The very antithesis of fiscal sanity and morality.

What the Dems need to do is pass the budget, then go home. Come back on 2Jan11, and let the Repubs squack and holler. They don't have enough votes in the Senate to do anything about that. And we all know who has held up money for the people thrown out of work by the criminals that the Repubs support.

LOL

It is irresponsible to give away 700 billion over ten. But it is sound policy to give awy 3.2 trillion.



Someone call the guys in the white coats, another moon bat is on the loose.
 
this is exactly why they had to do a omni-bus bus spending bill for this year back in March, which was over of over 400 Billion, and did not submit a budget as they were supposed to for year 2011...sticker shock.

You cannot keep funding the gov. by just throwing money at the gov. willy nilly every 3 or 6 months because the budget is not formalized and the true overall cost is never examined, which of course is EXACTLY what they wanted.

They have been playing games by adding tons of money to fed. dept budgets. NOW that they have inflated all of these agencies what comes next? Tax the evil rich to pay for it.

Raise expectations then beat people up for not meeting them....what a hoot and so dishonest.

It never ends, IF they had not blown up the budget the supposed 'losses' they are forecasting by allowing taxs to remain the same on the evil rich would not 'cost' a a dime.


some back history-

Senate Approves $410 Billion Bill to Fund Federal Government - washingtonpost.com
 
Coburn noted that the bill spends $12 million on an unelected panel of bureaucrats that Coburn says "will issue costly mandates, make coverage decisions for all Americans, and could deny patient choice under the guise of 'prevention.'"

Twelve million for the death panel. Hooray. Hooray.

The body in question doesn't have any of those powers. Nor was it created by the ACA.
 
It has all those powers. It can write new regulations to do whatever the hell it wants.

It's not a regulatory body. It doesn't write regulations, never has and never will.

It's a group of primary care doctors who do lit reviews. Scary!

"will issue costly mandates, make coverage decisions for all Americans, and could deny patient choice under the guise of 'prevention.'"
 
"will issue costly mandates, make coverage decisions for all Americans, and could deny patient choice under the guise of 'prevention.'"

Yes, that's a quote from Coburn. Who is lying. And he gets away with it because people like you don't know what's true and what isn't.

Here's a tip to help your critical thinking skills along. When someone makes an inflammatory statement like that without explicitly naming the body he's referencing, forcing you to actually go look it up in the legislation to find out what he's talking about, he's probably not being honest with you.
 
It has all those powers. It can write new regulations to do whatever the hell it wants.

It's not a regulatory body. It doesn't write regulations, never has and never will.

It's a group of primary care doctors who do lit reviews. Scary!

It's beltway wonks funded by a government agency who can do whatever the hell it wants.
 
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U.S. Preventive Services Task Force: Helpful Information: Questions and Answers

Tell Me More about the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF)
The USPSTF is supported by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services' Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ), and is made up of doctors, nurses, and other health care professionals with expertise in family medicine, pediatrics, internal medicine, obstetrics and gynecology, geriatrics, preventive medicine, public health, behavioral medicine, and nursing.

It does whatever the hell DHHS tells it to, and nobody voted for the rules DHHS makes.
 
It does whatever the hell DHHS tells it to, and nobody voted for the rules DHHS makes.

No. While I'm sure it's a revelation to you that the Preventive Services Task Force is inside AHRQ, that doesn't mean it suddenly has authority that it doesn't. Its purpose and role are established in statute. And, contrary to your silly assertions, regulations issued by HHS are always authorized in statute (and certainly can't overturn existing law).

And, on a separate note, you're always able to weigh in on proposed federal regulations. That's what the comment period is for.
 

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