Senate Republicans Block Benefits to Homeless Women Veterans

[Quantum Windbag]

Newsflash: Senate Republicans Block Benefits to Homeless Women Veterans : Ms Magazine Blog

Senate conservatives blocked the Homeless Women Veterans and Homeless Veterans with Children Act on Tuesday, following an objection from Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK, left), who spoke out in opposition to the bill. The $3.4 billion bill, introduced by Senator Patty Murray (D-WA), would have provided special benefits to homeless women veterans (as well as to homeless male veterans with dependent children). The defeat comes at a time when homelessness among women veterans has dramatically increased. According to the Department of Veterans Affairs, the number of homeless women veterans has nearly doubled over the past ten years. The trend is even more apparent among homeless veterans under 45; one in ten is a woman. What’s more, the increase in the number of homeless women veterans has coincided with a drop in homelessness among their male counterparts, according to Peter Dougherty, director of homeless veterans programs at the Department of Veterans Affairs.

YouTube - ‪Republican Senators Blocks Homeless Veterans Bill‬‏

Where is that Democratic budget again? I thin there should be no laws passed until we actually have one, not to mention the fact that we will be broke in two weeks, and all the Democrats can think about is spending more money.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The middle class exists only as "cannon fodder" for the rich. I thought that was understood.

The middle class are homeless now?

 

[JakeStarkey]

False premise, Hawk, and if that is all you have now, you fail. If you will not take care of those who took care of you, then see how easy it is to show that you are an ungrateful freak? For shame.

Nice to see you can't answer the question honestly. We already have programs that help veterans. So it is your premise that is false. But go ahead and keep calling this veteran an "ungrateful freak".

Completely and honestly answered. You are ungrateful for those who stood up for you, but you can't man up for them. Shame on you.

 

[Charles_Main]

Newsflash: Senate Republicans Block Benefits to Homeless Women Veterans : Ms Magazine Blog

Senate conservatives blocked the Homeless Women Veterans and Homeless Veterans with Children Act on Tuesday, following an objection from Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK, left), who spoke out in opposition to the bill. The $3.4 billion bill, introduced by Senator Patty Murray (D-WA), would have provided special benefits to homeless women veterans (as well as to homeless male veterans with dependent children). The defeat comes at a time when homelessness among women veterans has dramatically increased. According to the Department of Veterans Affairs, the number of homeless women veterans has nearly doubled over the past ten years. The trend is even more apparent among homeless veterans under 45; one in ten is a woman. What’s more, the increase in the number of homeless women veterans has coincided with a drop in homelessness among their male counterparts, according to Peter Dougherty, director of homeless veterans programs at the Department of Veterans Affairs.

YouTube - ‪Republican Senators Blocks Homeless Veterans Bill‬‏

You guys are shameless, Pathetic, and obviously very Desperate.

Fun stuff.

 

[Trajan]

uh huh...


voting 3.5 billion for a prgm that already exists minus a thorough vetting of what we get for that money, is ill advised.

for instance the VA already has a request in for 5.9 billion more, so why another addition of 3.5? that's pretty hefty. they are almost doubling their request?

for instance why have they not achieved success by their own metrics? yet, that want more money?

so they are 54-46.....sounds to me like they need to account for the 12 most certainly and why they have not achieved more success on that 34%, before we give them more cash.

The type of people you are answering imagine themselves to be super-patriots who exhibit their patriotism the only way they can, and that is to promote the throwing of taxpayer monies to the winds of any program they believe will make them appear to be all gung-ho for the troops they really think no more of than they do of their own selves, which is very little. These semi-vertebrates spend the majority of their lives bleating about conditions they have no control over whatsoever, but they think it shows they are big boys whose only goal in life is to right the wrongs of others. They usually seldom go out into the real world, and probably have no jobs of their own, which gives them unlimited time to blow hard in these forums. They are a pathetic, pitiful bunch.

Lasher is in touch with his "pathetic, pitiful" inner Lasher and projects on those who are better informed.

you're better informed? since when ? you cannot even hold a reasonable conversation...

 

[Trajan]

Trajan, you are the dribble on America's pant leg. If you don't support veterans, then you are morally worthless.

uh huh...


voting 3.5 billion for a prgm that already exists minus a thorough vetting of what we get for that money, is ill advised.

for instance the VA already has a request in for 5.9 billion more, so why another addition of 3.5? that's pretty hefty. they are almost doubling their request?

for instance why have they not achieved success by their own metrics? yet, that want more money?

so they are 54-46.....sounds to me like they need to account for the 12 most certainly and why they have not achieved more success on that 34%, before we give them more cash.

Thank for finally making a worthy statement, and I withdraw the "stain" comment. You did not deserve it. Yes, the vetting should be done. Cash benefit analysis (84%) for taking care of veterans is not the criteria, though. Homeless homeless veterans need to be taken in now. We can assign better assessments later.

sorry, NO, we do that now or as QW said submit a fucking budget for once..its only been 2 years,....

and do me a favor; don't thank me for anything, I don't care what you think is 'reasonable', you are hardly an authority.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trajan, who cannot critically analyze and stumbles in discussion, is good for grins and chuckles.

 

[frazzledgear]

Newsflash: Senate Republicans Block Benefits to Homeless Women Veterans : Ms Magazine Blog

Senate conservatives blocked the Homeless Women Veterans and Homeless Veterans with Children Act on Tuesday, following an objection from Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK, left), who spoke out in opposition to the bill. The $3.4 billion bill, introduced by Senator Patty Murray (D-WA), would have provided special benefits to homeless women veterans (as well as to homeless male veterans with dependent children). The defeat comes at a time when homelessness among women veterans has dramatically increased. According to the Department of Veterans Affairs, the number of homeless women veterans has nearly doubled over the past ten years. The trend is even more apparent among homeless veterans under 45; one in ten is a woman. What’s more, the increase in the number of homeless women veterans has coincided with a drop in homelessness among their male counterparts, according to Peter Dougherty, director of homeless veterans programs at the Department of Veterans Affairs.

YouTube - ‪Republican Senators Blocks Homeless Veterans Bill‬‏

This was a bill that was supposed to INCREASE the budget that already exists for homeless women veterans. This isn't to create yet another unfunded entitlement program (and it doesn't make sense to start any new ones anyway) - -this is at least SOMEONE with enough brains left in their head to realize our government is running into the brick wall of REALITY that we can't pay the budgets for all these entitlement programs as they already exist -much less increase ANY of them! Are you NUTS? Think politicians will score big points with their constituents if they go back and home and say "yeah, I did my part to sink our government too by voting to increase the level of unfunded entitlement programs -because after all, who isn't in favor of helping out homeless women veterans? Do we really care that we don't have the money for it and we are now just mere YEARS from total financial collapse of our government? Oh, let's not talk about THAT -not when we can talk about all the warm touchy-feely things I can pretend I did by voting to increase the budget of a program that we already couldn't pay for in the first place!" And oddly enough, this will strike a chord with total morons like you who just cannot grasp the dire situation our fucking politicians have placed this country. All by promising one group after another money no one has and no one will EVER have. So sure -how DARE those Republicans not vote to increase the budget of this entitlement program -those bad, evil Republicans who won't help to drive this nation to its knees.

Why should THIS budget be increased when we already can't pay for the level of entitlement spending that already exists? We are in a discussion about how much they are going to get CUT -not increased! We can't pay for what already exists -including not being able to pay for this particular budget already. So I guess you are stupid enough to think that any entitlement program YOU like in particular is more deserving than the others which are facing cuts? It doesn't make me happy either but you DO understand that for every $1 our government spends, it MUST borrow 40 cents because we are BROKE. We can't pay for everything that has already been promised to everyone -thanks to the dumbest, most self-centered and most short-sighted generation in my lifetime. Well the party is over now and its time to clean up the mess and salvage what we can from it. NOT increase or create still MORE entitlement programs!

Ok so we increase the budget for THIS particular entitlement -but it means cutting the budget even MORE than is already scheduled for ...WHAT? What other entitlement program will YOU say must have its budget cut even MORE than what is already going to have to happen JUST TO KEEP IT ALIVE. Any CLUE how many government entitlement programs there are? Any idea whether homeless women veterans can still access any of those? Did you realize this particular entitlement program exists IN ADDITION to any other a homeless women veteran would have access to -and NOT in exchange for all the others so that homeless women veterans receive more benefits than a homeless woman who did not serve in the military. But apparently you think it should be more in spite of the fact NO ONE CAN PAY FOR IT even without increasing it! You have instant oatmeal brains and make your decisions based on whether a bill has a nice touchy-feely TITLE to it or not and not based on REALITY of whether you can even pay for it or not. Not exactly a real heavy thinker, are you?

You morons who think the party can go on forever while running THE biggest Ponzi scheme in HISTORY on future generations think you are being "kind" and "caring" and are just full of shit. What has been done in the name of "caring" is anything but and it now guarantees that for the first time in our history, the standard of living for our children and grandchildren will be significantly lower than it was for those who ran that Ponzi scheme on them. Think homeless veteran women THEN will thank you for it when that entitlement disappears entirely along with half the others and the remaining will have a pittance budget? The out of control spending spree, borrowing 40 cents for every dollar spent is a recipe for disaster and we are fast approaching the time there will be NO funds left for ANY discretionary spending of any kind because every spare dime will have to go toward retiring our MASSIVE debt. Then homeless women vets will lose their entire budget along with every other entitlement program. What does it take to get through your head -we have NO business considering increasing ANY budget for ANY entitlement program. WE CANNOT PAY FOR THE LEVEL THEY EXIST AT ALREADY. Increasing any entitlement budget when our nation will face financial collapse before 2020 is beyond IMMORAL. It is evil.

By 2016 unless something drastic changes -the US will owe more money than all the currency in circulation from every nation combined. Can you even try to wrap your head around that -because this is something NO OTHER NATION in the world has ever done to itself. Its people like you who think bills are deemed desirable and affordable just by their title alone -and damn what's actually IN them, right?

In less than 30 years the US went from being THE largest creditor nation on the planet -to not only the largest debtor nation on the planet -but the largest in HISTORY. A better question than WHINING about not increasing the budget for entitlement programs in fact of impending financial COLLAPSE is to figure out how we got here in the first place.

If bringing the US to the brink of financial collapse with unfunded entitlement programs with the Ponzi scheme that is on the brink of utter collapse -then pat yourself on the back. You achieved your goal. But keep in mind while pretending you are oh so RIGHTEOUS, when it does not only will homeless women veterans lose their ENTIRE budget -so will everyone else on an entitlement program. What you are whining about is the MOST immoral choice that could be made -increase another entitlement program that is STILL unfunded and won't be paid for by the people demanding its increase. If we can't pay for it ourselves, insisting a generation that had no voice in the decisions get stuck with the tab is breathtakingly immoral.

You want to increase spending for ANYTHING -specify where the money is coming from. Who picks up the tab? Right now not only is every single cent spoken for -we can't pay for 40% of our out control government budget right now without expanding the budget for ANY entitlement program. Common sense and critical thinking skills just aren't your strong suits, are they?

 

[JakeStarkey]

FG, tell the Tea Party hold outs to back the compromise. They will get far more than anyone would have believed two years ago. Then let's take care of our veterans, who were willing to fight for you and who you are willing to throw out like garbage.

 

[theHawk]

False premise, Hawk, and if that is all you have now, you fail. If you will not take care of those who took care of you, then see how easy it is to show that you are an ungrateful freak? For shame.

Nice to see you can't answer the question honestly. We already have programs that help veterans. So it is your premise that is false. But go ahead and keep calling this veteran an "ungrateful freak".

Completely and honestly answered. You are ungrateful for those who stood up for you, but you can't man up for them. Shame on you.

To you idiots the only way to "man up" is to pay more taxes.
Or more accurately, demand that people with higher incomes than one's self pay higher taxes. It doesn't matter how much you actually pay in taxes just that you want higher taxes.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nice to see you can't answer the question honestly. We already have programs that help veterans. So it is your premise that is false. But go ahead and keep calling this veteran an "ungrateful freak".

Completely and honestly answered. You are ungrateful for those who stood up for you, but you can't man up for them. Shame on you.

To you idiots the only way to "man up" is to pay more taxes.
Or more accurately, demand that people with higher incomes than one's self pay higher taxes. It doesn't matter how much you actually pay in taxes just that you want higher taxes.

This is about veterans, not about your whiny ass being protected by veterans. You moron.

 

[DavidS]

The bill increases spending in an already existing program. Sorry but where is this money going to come from? Oh thats right, borrow it. Borrow more to spend more.

How many money do we spend on R&D of new weapons and new planes and new bombs?

Maybe we could use some of that money to help the people who fucking put their lives on the line to defend this country all of the other wars you Republicans send these people off to. "What's that? You put your life on the line in Iraq? Afghanistan? Great, thanks a lot. Now go be homeless." Fuck you, Hawk. That's a disgusting piece of shit attitude towards the people who have either died or been injured or have done nothing more than follow orders and head off to Iraq, been shot at and came home to nothing. Do you know what percentage of our American forces are on welfare and food stamps? Do you know that soldiers off in Iraq have to pay for their own uniforms to be cleaned? More money for the greedy corporate billionaires.

This country treats its veterans like shit and it's disgusting. Why should anyone join the military after how we treat these people? Might as well disband the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force because, folks, we don't need 'em anymore. They return home after losing their jobs, their homes, their spouses, they come home to nothing.. and how does the US Government thank them? By giving them a big middle finger.

In 2010, we spent $685 billion in defense.

$685 billion.

And we can't find a home for these people? We can't find affordable housing? Disgusting.