Senate Iran Resolution: De Facto Declaration of War?

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    For 26 minutes last Friday night, the sound of war drums reverberating through the Senate chamber were silenced as Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) stood and delivered a speech that served as a vehicle for filibuster and a voice of warning against military intervention in yet another Middle Eastern country. “I think a vote for this resolution is a vote for the concept of preemptive war,” Paul said.

    Senate Resolution 41 is a non-binding measure originally introduced in February and sponsored by Senators Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Bob Casey (D-Penn.), and Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.). The Senate passed the resolution late Friday night/early Saturday morning by a vote of 90-1. Senator Paul was the lone dissenting voice.


    Senator Paul considers such a statement unwise. “This means that right now, before anything happens, you’ve decided that you will preemptively go to war,” Paul said.

    Fox News disagrees. In a story reporting the Senate’s overwhelming support for the Graham resolution, the 24-hour news channel insists that the vote “should not be construed as an authorization for the use of military force or a declaration of war.”

    Despite denials that this resolution will be used to justify armed intervention in Iran, similar soft-pedaling was heard after September 11, 2001, and American troops are still dying in the Middle East 11 years later.




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    As was the 1998 resolution of "regime change in Iraq" being declared official federal policy, as signed by Bubba Clintoon.

    War is peace!
     
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    Alright. Another war to pay for with our lives and our wealth. Spreading freedom is such a success for us! :lmao:
     
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    Sad but true. You can see it coming unfortunately.
     
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    We are spreading freedom. We just didn't stop to think that in some circles freedom means the freedom to oppress others based on democracy.
     
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    Relax. They can always fall back on the Hillary Clinton hilarious mulligan that by voting for the Iraq War Resolution she didn't think it actually meant we'd go to war.
     
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    You shouldn't talk about Liberals like that!
     
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    The text of the bill: Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    After all the Whereases:



    So there you go. This is a resolution, not a bill. It is not legally a declaration of war. An actual declaration of war would require a bill and a vote.

    This is chest thumping.

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    De facto (English pronunciation: /diː ˈfæktoʊ/, /deɪ/, Latin pronunciation: [deː ˈfaktoː]) is a Latin expression that means "concerning fact." In law, it often means "in practice but not necessarily ordained by law" or "in practice or actuality, but not officially established."
     
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    Nope. doesnt look like one.

    Of course, Iran acquiring a nuclear weapon could be a de facto declaration of war.

    War is coming unless we radically change the course we are on.
     

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