Senate defeats Republican-led health-care repeal effort

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44 - Senate defeats Republican-led health-care repeal effort

The Senate on Wednesday defeated a Republican-led effort to repeal the entire national health-care overhaul, with lawmakers voting strictly along party lines. The decision underscores the hurdle that the GOP faces in that Democratic-majority chamber as it tries to overturn the law.

All 50 Senate Democrats present and one independent voted against the repeal, while all 47 Republicans voted in favor. Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Mark Warner (D-Va.) were not present. The measure was proposed by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

Republicans needed the support of 13 Democrats for the measure to move forward because of a Democratic-led procedural move that set up a 60-vote hurdle.

While the full repeal measure fell short, a separate health-care amendment offered by Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) sailed through the Senate with bipartisan support. The Stabenow proposal, which would repeal an unpopular tax-reporting provision of the law that opponents say overburdens small businesses, passed on an 81-to-17 vote. The House has not yet considered that proposal.

While the Health Care Repeal vote result was absolutely no surprise, I am glad to see both parties could come up together in a bipartisan effort to get rid of the tax-reporting provision that would of hurt small businesses.
 
44 - Senate defeats Republican-led health-care repeal effort

The Senate on Wednesday defeated a Republican-led effort to repeal the entire national health-care overhaul, with lawmakers voting strictly along party lines. The decision underscores the hurdle that the GOP faces in that Democratic-majority chamber as it tries to overturn the law.

All 50 Senate Democrats present and one independent voted against the repeal, while all 47 Republicans voted in favor. Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Mark Warner (D-Va.) were not present. The measure was proposed by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

Republicans needed the support of 13 Democrats for the measure to move forward because of a Democratic-led procedural move that set up a 60-vote hurdle.

While the full repeal measure fell short, a separate health-care amendment offered by Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) sailed through the Senate with bipartisan support. The Stabenow proposal, which would repeal an unpopular tax-reporting provision of the law that opponents say overburdens small businesses, passed on an 81-to-17 vote. The House has not yet considered that proposal.

While the Health Care Repeal vote result was absolutely no surprise, I am glad to see both parties could come up together in a bipartisan effort to get rid of the tax-reporting provision that would of hurt small businesses.


I have a feeling Repealing it will not be needed. Eventually at least I fully expect the Mandate to be declared a violation of the Constitution.
 
44 - Senate defeats Republican-led health-care repeal effort

The Senate on Wednesday defeated a Republican-led effort to repeal the entire national health-care overhaul, with lawmakers voting strictly along party lines. The decision underscores the hurdle that the GOP faces in that Democratic-majority chamber as it tries to overturn the law.

All 50 Senate Democrats present and one independent voted against the repeal, while all 47 Republicans voted in favor. Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Mark Warner (D-Va.) were not present. The measure was proposed by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

Republicans needed the support of 13 Democrats for the measure to move forward because of a Democratic-led procedural move that set up a 60-vote hurdle.

While the full repeal measure fell short, a separate health-care amendment offered by Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) sailed through the Senate with bipartisan support. The Stabenow proposal, which would repeal an unpopular tax-reporting provision of the law that opponents say overburdens small businesses, passed on an 81-to-17 vote. The House has not yet considered that proposal.

While the Health Care Repeal vote result was absolutely no surprise, I am glad to see both parties could come up together in a bipartisan effort to get rid of the tax-reporting provision that would of hurt small businesses.


I have a feeling Repealing it will not be needed. Eventually at least I fully expect the Mandate to be declared a violation of the Constitution.

Here's a thought that should get the liberals here at USMB grinding their teeth.

The case gets to the SCOTUS. By a 5-4 majority, not only does the mandate portion of the law get struck down by the SCOTUS (affirming the ruling by Judge Vinson, in effect) but they also adopt his logic as to the non-severability of that provision from the balance of the Obamacare law. In that event, the ENTIRE law could be declared by the SCOTUS to be unConstitutional. Null and void from jump street.

No. That's not a prediction necessarily. Its just nice to picture the centerpiece of the Obama Administration's absolutely horrible domestic agenda getting completely uprooted and totally discarded.
 
The republicans have never in modern times done anything that helps the nation and its people. They are simply the supporting actors (tools) for the wealthy and the corporations as politics becomes more about money and its relationship to power. That that idea is not evident to all Americans demonstrates the mass distraction and fantasy media and journalism have become.

"Something is profoundly wrong with the way we live today. For thirty years we have made a virtue out of the pursuit of material self-interest: indeed, this very pursuit now constitutes whatever remains of our sense of collective purpose. We know what things cost but have no idea what they are worth. We no longer ask of a judicial ruling or a legislative act: is it good? Is it fair? Is it just? Is it right? Will it help bring about a better society or a better world? Those used to be the political questions, even if they invited no easy answers. We must learn once again to pose them." Tony Judt 'Ill Fares the Land'
 
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While the Health Care Repeal vote result was absolutely no surprise, I am glad to see both parties could come up together in a bipartisan effort to get rid of the tax-reporting provision that would of hurt small businesses.


I have a feeling Repealing it will not be needed. Eventually at least I fully expect the Mandate to be declared a violation of the Constitution.

Here's a thought that should get the liberals here at USMB grinding their teeth.

The case gets to the SCOTUS. By a 5-4 majority, not only does the mandate portion of the law get struck down by the SCOTUS (affirming the ruling by Judge Vinson, in effect) but they also adopt his logic as to the non-severability of that provision from the balance of the Obamacare law. In that event, the ENTIRE law could be declared by the SCOTUS to be unConstitutional. Null and void from jump street.

No. That's not a prediction necessarily. Its just nice to picture the centerpiece of the Obama Administration's absolutely horrible domestic agenda getting completely uprooted and totally discarded.

The only reason the Republican idea of the individual mandate was needed is the absence of what liberals and progressives wanted in the first place...a public option or the ability to buy Medicare before the age of 65.

I hope our right wing ideologue activist Supreme Court rules against the bill. It will finally FORCE the public option on the insurance cartels who have gotten away with murdering more American than al Qaeda.


"Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing. They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage--the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They approve of social security benefits-so much so that they took them away from almost a million people. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them. They believe in international trade--so much so that they crippled our reciprocal trade program, and killed our International Wheat Agreement. They favor the admission of displaced persons--but only within shameful racial and religious limitations.They consider electrical power a great blessing--but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They say TVA is wonderful--but we ought never to try it again. They condemn "cruelly high prices"--but fight to the death every effort to bring them down. They think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it."
President Harry S. Truman
 
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The republicans have never in modern times done anything that helps the nation and its people. They are simply the supporting actors (tools) for the wealthy and the corporations as politics becomes more about money and its relationship to power. That that idea is not evident to all Americans demonstrates the mass distraction and fantasy media and journalism have become.

"Something is profoundly wrong with the way we live today. For thirty years we have made a virtue out of the pursuit of material self-interest: indeed, this very pursuit now constitutes whatever remains of our sense of collective purpose. We know what things cost but have no idea what they are worth. We no longer ask of a judicial ruling or a legislative act: is it good? Is it fair? Is it just? Is it right? Will it help bring about a better society or a better world? Those used to be the political questions, even if they invited no easy answers. We must learn once again to pose them." Tony Judt 'Ill Fares the Land'

Ya gotta get that Jealous thinkings out of ya head.
Where did OBama Get 350,000,000.00 to run for President <not from the minorities or young people who voted for him---your not that niave are you.
All poloticians have to be in bed with the money just the way it is ya know like all college kids recognize the smell of POT--ya might not like it but it is there.
 
Take note folks, the Democrats voted AGAINST the will of the people again.

remember this in the coming elections
 
Anyone who believes that a 2000 page bill crafted by politicians...dem. OR rep....is actually good for the country, is a well indoctrinated tool.
 
The republicans have never in modern times done anything that helps the nation and its people. They are simply the supporting actors (tools) for the wealthy and the corporations as politics becomes more about money and its relationship to power. That that idea is not evident to all Americans demonstrates the mass distraction and fantasy media and journalism have become.

"Something is profoundly wrong with the way we live today. For thirty years we have made a virtue out of the pursuit of material self-interest: indeed, this very pursuit now constitutes whatever remains of our sense of collective purpose. We know what things cost but have no idea what they are worth. We no longer ask of a judicial ruling or a legislative act: is it good? Is it fair? Is it just? Is it right? Will it help bring about a better society or a better world? Those used to be the political questions, even if they invited no easy answers. We must learn once again to pose them." Tony Judt 'Ill Fares the Land'

And you libs in modern times have never done anything but erode people's freedom in the name of compassion for them. An especially nefarious form of tyranny our framers warned us about.
 
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I never expected it to make it through the Dem controlled Senate. After all. This is their signature peice of legislation. Its so "Historic." Bullshit.

Here's hoping the SC finds it unconstitutional. Which IMO it is. The Govt can't mandate that any citizen has to BUY ANYTHING.
 
Take note folks, the Democrats voted AGAINST the will of the people again.

remember this in the coming elections

REALLY???

AP-GfK Poll: Opposition to health care law eases

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Ahead of a vote on repeal in the GOP-led House this week, strong opposition to the law stands at 30 percent, close to the lowest level registered in AP-GfK surveys dating to September 2009.

The nation is divided over the law, but the strength and intensity of the opposition appear diminished. The law expands coverage to more than 30 million uninsured, and would require, for the first time, that most people in the United States carry health insurance.

The poll finds that 40 percent of those surveyed said they support the law, while 41 percent oppose it. Just after the November congressional elections, opposition stood at 47 percent and support was 38 percent.

As for repeal, only about one in four say they want to do away with the law completely. Among Republicans support for repeal has dropped sharply, from 61 percent after the elections to 49 percent now.

Also, 43 percent say they want the law changed so it does more to re-engineer the health care system. Fewer than one in five say it should be left as it is.

AP-GfK Poll: Opposition to health care law eases
 
Repeal will likely take place post the 2012 election cycle IF the Republicans gain control of the Senate, keep the House AND win the Oval office.
 
44 - Senate defeats Republican-led health-care repeal effort

The Senate on Wednesday defeated a Republican-led effort to repeal the entire national health-care overhaul, with lawmakers voting strictly along party lines. The decision underscores the hurdle that the GOP faces in that Democratic-majority chamber as it tries to overturn the law.

All 50 Senate Democrats present and one independent voted against the repeal, while all 47 Republicans voted in favor. Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Mark Warner (D-Va.) were not present. The measure was proposed by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

Republicans needed the support of 13 Democrats for the measure to move forward because of a Democratic-led procedural move that set up a 60-vote hurdle.

While the full repeal measure fell short, a separate health-care amendment offered by Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) sailed through the Senate with bipartisan support. The Stabenow proposal, which would repeal an unpopular tax-reporting provision of the law that opponents say overburdens small businesses, passed on an 81-to-17 vote. The House has not yet considered that proposal.

While the Health Care Repeal vote result was absolutely no surprise, I am glad to see both parties could come up together in a bipartisan effort to get rid of the tax-reporting provision that would of hurt small businesses.

*Conservatives did not expect this to pass the Senate just yet. This is not an ovenight success piece of legislation, rather a one step at a time in the "right" direction for our country, and delivering on a promise to the voters, that they are working to repeal a one trillion dollar expense by the Dems. to hurt small business and taxpayers, while gaining even more power and control.*


"The Senate voted Wednesday for the first time to repeal a piece of President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul, rolling back a new tax reporting requirement that’s been universally panned by business owners.

"The amendment to repeal the 1099 reporting requirement passed 81-17 with broad bipartisan support



"The provision would have required business owners to file 1099 tax documents on all cumulative purchases from a single vendor that total more than $600 in a year.

It was included in the health law because it would have raised about $17 billion in previously uncollected taxes. A bipartisan collection of business groups have opposed the provision, arguing that it would bury them in paperwork."


Read more: Senate repeals part of health care law - Jennifer Haberkorn - POLITICO.com
 

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