Sen Joe McCarthy: American Patriot and Hero

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    As mentioned, Acheson was incompetent and lousy as a Secretary of State. I don't think anyone, including Joe McCarthy, actually thought the man was a Communist or actively subversive. His main connection with the pursuance of Communists, Soviet operatives, and security risks was his open support of Alger Hiss when Hiss was accused of spying and convicted of perjury, which went quite a ways toward proving Acheson was incompetent.
     
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    Thank you.

    Unless I am missing a bit it seems the attacks on Marshall and Acheson were unofficial and akin to folks debating the surge in our latest war and all that. To declare McCarthy "wrong" about them would be similar to declaring someone "wrong" about Obama being a socialist or Reagan being the trend setter with big government bailouts. In other words it is all in the point of view and either opinion is at least able to be defended.
     
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    All exposed LONG before MacCarthy.
     
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    You failed to mention that the perjury charges against Lattimore were dropped.
     
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    All this comes from Ann Coulter's book Treason.
    Just like McCarthy Coulter demonizes anyone that would dare disagree with her and her analysis that McCarthy was an American hero. Everyone that disagrees with her is labeled "a traitor".
    All through the book Coulter uses McCArthy as her latest role model.
    Amazing any sane American would fall for that.
    She claims that anyone that does not come to the altar and worship McCarthy have supported fifty years of treason.
    Coulter twisted, slanted, distorted and lied about history when she smeared Truman in the book stating that Truman and General Marshall opposed Stalin because the Republicans won the mid term elections in 1946. Coulter claimed that both Truman and General Marshall fully supported all Soviet expansion after the war and the Soviet way of life before those elections.

    Coulter is full of lies. I suggest everyone read this book as it full of nothing but myths, fables and lies to sell books.
    Coulter paints McCarthy as a great man worthy of emulation. She states he is very smart, bright, witty, very warm hearted and this one was the kicker; she claims he was macho. She plays him to be the sincere farm boy decorated military veteran that saved the world exposing hundreds of Soviet spies currently working in American government.
    And eventually his own party and President called him out.
    McCarthy was brought down by himself at the televised hearings. American citizens are not dumbasses and it was his own party then that had enough of his lies. Grass roots support for his ouster ran his ass off.
    But go ahead and believe the Uncle Remus fairy tales Ann Coulter spins.
     
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    The McCarthy period and McCarthyism should have been a learning experience for America, perhaps not for all the people but hopefully enough so that it doesn't happen again. Are we that fearful a people that we seem to be easily led into some type of Peter-Pan land? For better or worse Ike was the president and he should have taken the lead and he did not.
     
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    If anything, McCarthy vastly understated both the extent to which the Democrat Administrations took their marching orders from Moscow and the untold human misery, suffering and mass murder the Stalin and Mao regimes would inflict on the planet
     
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    So why did Moscow send Truman marching orders to send American troops to defend South Korea? Sure doesn't make sense. Why didn't Moscow just tell Truman to lay low and let North Korea take over South Korea?
     
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    That question just shows how naive people like you are.

    World War II turned all of the "victors" into totalitarian societies -- three main world dictatorships: Russia, China and the USA -- just as described in George Orwell's classic work, 1984. He deliberately reversed the last two digits of the title -- 1984 meant the situation as he saw it in 1948: the three great powers of Eurasia, East Asia and Oceania (the USA being the controlling power of Oceania).

    As Adolph Hitler so percipiently remarked,

    "The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it."

    Hitler destroyed himself and his totalitarian state, but he achieved his major goal to spread totalitarianism over the whole Earth.

    The reason so many naive people don't recognize the USA as a totalitarian state is that the USA was and is the most advanced totalitarian state, with the most incredibly efficient interlocking structure of "education", brainwashing and social control that the world has ever seen.

    Only an incompetent totalitarianism employs terror: modern, efficient McFascism serves you with a smile and makes you love your slavery.

    So, to answer your naive question, Russia did not control the USA; Russia, China and the USA were competing totalitarian states. It is natural for competing totalitarian states to oppose each other, since they want to gain the maximum advantages possible for their respective ruling classes.
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    McCarthy died a drunk at 48 of liver disease.
     

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