Self protection and gun ownership

[Dr Grump]

Who's scared shitless? When you live in a country where people accept they are responsible for their own safety, you find people who are self-sufficient and who don't like the idea of waiting until the cops arrive to take care of any threat that may present itself.

BTW, I live approximately 200 miles from the nearest hospital, and cougar and bear abound. We also have livestock and dogs, which every now and then need to be dispatched. We have no city police, our police force consists of a sheriff's department which consists of a couple of dufuses who mean well, but don't exactly instill confidence. Add that to the fact that our roads are a trafficking highway for drug runners, due to the fact that they're so lightly patrolled...or not patrolled at all.

We'll just keep our guns, thanks.

Oh, I buy the argument with regard to cougars and bears. That's a fair call....

LOL re the sheriffs. well, we have a nationwide police force and you have to pass certain criteria - height, weight, gun proficiency etc. Then you have to spend six months at the Police college learning law etc. No voting in down here...strict criteria. although to be fair, they have loosened the height and age requirements over the past 15 years..

I'm not talking about YOUR mentality, I'm talkign about hte shoot first ask questions later

 

[editec]

I'll say straight up that I support the right to own a firearm. I believe that that police are not there to protect you, they are there to clean up the blood and find out who did it once a crime has been comitted. Ultimately, each person is responsible for his own self protection. This is achieved three ways:

1. Avoidance- This is how most people protect themselves. They live in safe communities, establish relationships with stable people, avoid travelling to unsafe areas. The majority of shootings occur late night, in drug areas, are gang related, related to cheating on a spouse or being involved in some criminal activity. This is why most Americans live their lives never having a need to protect themselves with a firearm

2. Flight- Basically, run away. Back away in a conflict. If someone with a gun wants your wallet or car....give it to him.

3. Fight- Be armed and know how to protect yourself. When faced with a threat, fight back

Most gun owners are responsible. They are trained in how to handle their weapons and when to use them. The problem with some views of self protection is that once they have Number 3, they think that Number 1 and 2 no longer apply to them. A person with a gun assumes a "I aint gunna take no shit" posture and refuses to back down in a conflict. This is where many unnecessary shootings occur.

I have difficulty walking away from confrontations, anyway, armed or not.

Which is an excellent reason for somebody like me NOT to be armed, I think.

I know damned well that during certain periods of my tumultuous life, I'd have killed some of the assholes I've met... had I been armed.

And let's face it: in may cases, regardless of the provocation or justification, if you're standing over a corpse with a gun in your hand, your life is about to take a turn that nobody sensible would it want to take.

I understand my limitations and foibles, so I suppose I've structured my life such that I avoid places where it might be sensible to be armed.

However if I lived someplace where being armed seemed necessary, I don't doubt I'd do so.

 

[brewerboy]

Because the OP contains asinine statements.

So you dont have the ability to read between the lines?

Or do you, but just choose to make a mountian out of a molehill and derail a perfectly good thread?

And I bet that anyone on here giving the OP shit would cry foul if anyone else jumped on your ass like this.

Just saying.

His entire premise is bullshit. He does not even have any facts to back up his "feelings". I am pretty sure if we had a bunch of bar shootings by angry patrons we would hear about it. And the so very few road rage attacks are beyond unimportant. Do they occur? Sure just like a crazied idiot drives a car into a group of Bystanders on purpose. But so few occur as to be meaningless statistically.

There is no problem with people that legally own guns not backing down cause they are packing. In fact these idiotic claims were made in EVERY State that recently added the right to concealed carry. And no shoot outs , no spike in murderous rages with guns has occurred in ANY of them. THAT is the point.

The OP was simply being long winded for "I bet theres the occasional gun toter who shoots someone he doesnt have to because of the simple fact he has a gun"

Unproveable? Probably. Faulty logic? Probably so.

Worth derailing a thread simply to be a dick? Not really.

 

[Dr Grump]

But it is RGS.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!