SEIU Protest! Did Ya'll See This on MSNBC?

[Si modo]

Well you didn't mind taking time to advise us that we are only giving half the story. So after the game I hope you'll reconsider and give us the other half that you seem to think we're missing. I agree that it can be damaging and harmful to only tell the convenient parts of any story, so I for one want to know if that is the case here.

I'm going to ask the group right now if they will be civil, polite, and fair if you'll do that.

You will, won't you gang?

Commercial break. I'm merely telling people to not jump the gun, because that egg on one's face is never pretty. There are always three sides to every story. In this case, the writer's, the union's, and the truth.

Do I think the union should of gone to the home? Not really, unnecessary really. However, Immie (I'm not worried about you by the way Immie) made a good point. People on the right had no problem with Abortion doctors getting their homes or businesses protested. Why is that? Oh right, because they agree with the protesters. I think it's wrong in both cases, leave people's personal property alone.

However, since the DC police were there and gave them a escort, I assume they went to assure there would be no problems

If I may you one other bit piece of advice to you and people like Immie. Disown people like Sinatra. She is only here to make money for each post, not make any real arguments or discussions. Partisan hackery at it's finest.

The DC police were not there. He lives in Maryland. The Montgomery County cops were not at his home.

The DC cops only escorted the protesters through DC. No cops were there at his home when he arrived. Just protesters trampling his lawn and scaring a 14 year old kid - obviously, SEIU's equal.

 

[Foxfyre]

Well you didn't mind taking time to advise us that we are only giving half the story. So after the game I hope you'll reconsider and give us the other half that you seem to think we're missing. I agree that it can be damaging and harmful to only tell the convenient parts of any story, so I for one want to know if that is the case here.

I'm going to ask the group right now if they will be civil, polite, and fair if you'll do that.

You will, won't you gang?

Commercial break. I'm merely telling people to not jump the gun, because that egg on one's face is never pretty. There are always three sides to every story. In this case, the writer's, the union's, and the truth.

Do I think the union should of gone to the home? Not really, unnecessary really. However, Immie (I'm not worried about you by the way Immie) made a good point. People on the right had no problem with Abortion doctors getting their homes or businesses protested. Why is that? Oh right, because they agree with the protesters. I think it's wrong in both cases, leave people's personal property alone.

However, since the DC police were there and gave them a escort, I assume they went to assure there would be no problems

If I may you one other bit piece of advice to you and people like Immie. Disown people like Sinatra. She is only here to make money for each post, not make any real arguments or discussions. Partisan hackery at it's finest.

If this had been Tea Partiers staging a protest, practically laying seige against a private home and terrifying the teenage occupant of that home, the USMB leftists would have started a gazillion threads on it damning the Tea Partiers by now. You did so when you felt abortion doctors or clinics were unfairly protested or when some nuts did violence in those cases.

You're absolutely right that private homes should be off limits for this kind of thing, and many on the right, including myself, have been very vocal and explicit when we felt somebody was over the line even if we didn't like the one protested. Honest people do not condone bad acts no matter who does them.

It was pretty half hearted and went along with urging us not to jump to any conclusions too early, but at least you had the guts to say you don't approve attacking people in their homes. So I'll give you that.

I wonder what it says that not a single other leftist has ventured into this thread to do even that?

 

[Modbert]

It was pretty half hearted and went along with urging us not to jump to any conclusions too early, but at least you had the guts to say you don't approve attacking people in their homes. So I'll give you that.

I wonder what it says that not a single other leftist has ventured into this thread to do even that?

1.) Nothing was half hearted. I was making a observation. You guys want other people who don't agree with you to come into this thread, yet you're being hostile to nonexistent posts. You have no idea what others who would come into this thread would say. I'm here, and I disagree with what they did.

2.) Like I said before, why are they going to bother? There's no point in coming to this thread where all it's going to be is a flamefest in a right wing echo chamber.

3.) If the tea partiers did this, plenty of people in this thread would of been defending it. And that what separates me from others. I have my principles, and I'm also consistent.

Edit: Go back and look at the posts that were made after my original one. Go look at how more than a few of you went out on a limb and wildly guessed with no evidence about how I feel about this.

 

[Foxfyre]

It was pretty half hearted and went along with urging us not to jump to any conclusions too early, but at least you had the guts to say you don't approve attacking people in their homes. So I'll give you that.

I wonder what it says that not a single other leftist has ventured into this thread to do even that?

1.) Nothing was half hearted. I was making a observation. You guys want other people who don't agree with you to come into this thread, yet you're being hostile to nonexistent posts. You have no idea what others who would come into this thread would say. I'm here, and I disagree with what they did.

2.) Like I said before, why are they going to bother? There's no point in coming to this thread where all it's going to be is a flamefest in a right wing echo chamber.

3.) If the tea partiers did this, plenty of people in this thread would of been defending it. And that what separates me from others. I have my principles, and I'm also consistent.

You're right that I have no idea what others who would come into this thread would say and that is why I didn't speculate on that. Nor has anybody else. There are just observations that nobody else from the left is in here to denounce the SEIU for what it did.

You did speculate that plenty of people in this thread would would have defended Tea Partiers if they did what the SEIU did though. How is it you can claim to be so introspective and know that the rest of us aren't so gifted?

Anyhow have a great night Modbert. I won't rag on you any more. Tonight anyway.

 

[Immanuel]

Well you didn't mind taking time to advise us that we are only giving half the story. So after the game I hope you'll reconsider and give us the other half that you seem to think we're missing. I agree that it can be damaging and harmful to only tell the convenient parts of any story, so I for one want to know if that is the case here.

I'm going to ask the group right now if they will be civil, polite, and fair if you'll do that.

You will, won't you gang?

Commercial break. I'm merely telling people to not jump the gun, because that egg on one's face is never pretty. There are always three sides to every story. In this case, the writer's, the union's, and the truth.

Do I think the union should of gone to the home? Not really, unnecessary really. However, Immie (I'm not worried about you by the way Immie) made a good point. People on the right had no problem with Abortion doctors getting their homes or businesses protested. Why is that? Oh right, because they agree with the protesters. I think it's wrong in both cases, leave people's personal property alone.

However, since the DC police were there and gave them a escort, I assume they went to assure there would be no problems

If I may you one other bit piece of advice to you and people like Immie. Disown people like Sinatra. She is only here to make money for each post, not make any real arguments or discussions. Partisan hackery at it's finest.

Whoa there, that was not my point, but the shoe does fit both ways.

My point was that the left was out to lynch the abortion protesters, yet they seem to have been strangely quiet about these protests. In fact, in the thread I was reading about this over the weekend, I believe they were defending the SEIU protesters.

Immie

 

[Modbert]

You're right that I have no idea what others who would come into this thread would say and that is why I didn't speculate on that. Nor has anybody else. There are just observations that nobody else from the left is in here to denounce the SEIU for what it did.

You did speculate that plenty of people in this thread would would have defended Tea Partiers if they did what the SEIU did though. How is it you can claim to be so introspective and know that the rest of us aren't so gifted?

Anyhow have a great night Modbert. I won't rag on you any more. Tonight anyway.

I'm going off prior history of some of those who have posted in the thread. There's a difference between that and making assumptions of those not even in the thread.

I really don't see either why you need people to come in here and denounce the SEIU. It's not going to change what happened. Hell, I came in this thread to denounce the SEIU and I got flack for it.

But anyway, have a good night Fox.

 

[Modbert]

Whoa there, that was not my point, but the shoe does fit both ways.

My point was that the left was out to lynch the abortion protesters, yet they seem to have been strangely quiet about these protests. In fact, in the thread I was reading about this over the weekend, I believe they were defending the SEIU protesters.

Immie

Dunno, I don't speak for them and they don't speak for the entire " the left".

 

[Immanuel]

Whoa there, that was not my point, but the shoe does fit both ways.

My point was that the left was out to lynch the abortion protesters, yet they seem to have been strangely quiet about these protests. In fact, in the thread I was reading about this over the weekend, I believe they were defending the SEIU protesters.

Immie

Dunno, I don't speak for them and they don't speak for the entire " the left".

I don't think I said you did.

Actually, you correctly pointed out the flip side of my initial comment. It is all partisan hackery. The sides were reversed during the abortion protests. However, like you, I don't think either side was right in invading individual's private property.

Immie

 

[Sinatra]

SEIU astroturf special forces?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

It's so great to see so many posters jumping to conclusions after hearing one side of the story. Goodness knows a right wing pundit wouldn't have a biased opinion against unions.

Nina Easton is not a right wing pundit.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

For the record, I would bother to go and post a usual full response. However, Red Sox and Celtics are on. Furthermore, I'm simply not going to waste my evening in a right wing echo chamber that has no plan on being open minded to what I have to say, no plan on changing their mind, and no plan on being reasonable about anything related to the unions.

I've been on USMB long enough now to know when I'm wasting my time, and I'm simply not going to do so here.

In other words , you have nothing!



But we already knew that.

 

[WillowTree]

For the record, I would bother to go and post a usual full response. However, Red Sox and Celtics are on. Furthermore, I'm simply not going to waste my evening in a right wing echo chamber that has no plan on being open minded to what I have to say, no plan on changing their mind, and no plan on being reasonable about anything related to the unions.

I've been on USMB long enough now to know when I'm wasting my time, and I'm simply not going to do so here.

In other words , you have nothing!



But we already knew that.

yes we did.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Now it looks like our tax dollars were used to support this awful SEIU intimidation. How sad. The man's 14yr old son had to hide in his closet out of fear. This wasn't a "Protest." This was a Mob. Criminal charges should be looked into. This man and his family's rights were violated. The Democrats and SEIU should be held accountable. Wake up America! Vote all "Community Organizer" Democrats out!

 

[Foxfyre]

It's so great to see so many posters jumping to conclusions after hearing one side of the story. Goodness knows a right wing pundit wouldn't have a biased opinion against unions.

Nina Easton is not a right wing pundit.

She is sometimes a commentator on Fox News but usually the counter weight for the more conservative point of view and very little of her work history would be described as right wing:

In May 2006, Easton left the Boston Globe, to take over as the Washington Bureau Chief of Fortune Magazine.

She has also appeared as a commentator on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos, CBS's Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer, CNN's NewsNight, NBC's Meet the Press with David Gregory, and PBS's Washington Week, among others.

She is a Phi Beta Kappa grad from UC Berkeley. How rightwing could she be?

 

[chanel]

Who cares who lived next door or reported it? A picture is worth a thousand words. Hundreds of people trespassed on private property, which would scare the shit out of any kid. Or adult for that matter. Those police are pussies.

 

[Foxfyre]

Who cares who lived next door or reported it? A picture is worth a thousand words. Hundreds of people trespassed on private property, which would scare the shit out of any kid. Or adult for that matter. Those police are pussies.

For sure. If somebody with the inside track and ability to get the story out had not been there, I'm sure if it had been reported at all, it would have been reported very differently than the way it actually was.

 

[Toro]

We probably wouldn't know about this if Fortune writer, Nina Easton, didn't live next door to the BofA Exec who was stormed by the SEIU last week.

If this had been Tea Partiers, you know it would have been emblazoned across the front of every newspaper and would have led ever telecast for at least a day or two. But I'm guessing that 99% of you had never seen it until now. I'm a news junkie and I hadn't.

So what do you think? Does it cross the line to storm a person's private home with an organized, loud, and threatening protest? And why wasn't this as newsworthy as a Tea Party event?

What's really behind SEIU's Bank of America protests?​

by Nina Easton

(FORTUNE) -- Every journalist loves a peaceful protest-whether it makes news, shakes up a political season, or holds out the possibility of altering history. Then there are the ones that show up on your curb--literally.

Last Sunday, on a peaceful, sun-crisp afternoon, our toddler finally napping upstairs, my front yard exploded with 500 screaming, placard-waving strangers on a mission to intimidate my neighbor, Greg Baer. Baer is deputy general counsel for corporate law at Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500), a senior executive based in Washington, D.C. And that -- in the minds of the organizers at the politically influential Service Employees International Union and a Chicago outfit called National Political Action -- makes his family fair game.

Waving signs denouncing bank "greed," hordes of invaders poured out of 14 school buses, up Baer's steps, and onto his front porch. As bullhorns rattled with stories of debtor calls and foreclosed homes, Baer's teenage son Jack -- alone in the house -- locked himself in the bathroom. "When are they going to leave?" Jack pleaded when I called to check on him.

Baer, on his way home from a Little League game, parked his car around the corner, called the police, and made a quick calculation to leave his younger son behind while he tried to rescue his increasingly distressed teen. He made his way through a din of barked demands and insults from the activists who proudly "outed" him, and slipped through his front door. . . .

More here:
What's really behind SEIU's Bank of America protests - May. 19, 2010

This stuff drives me crazy.

Morans.

 

[Foxfyre]

We probably wouldn't know about this if Fortune writer, Nina Easton, didn't live next door to the BofA Exec who was stormed by the SEIU last week.

If this had been Tea Partiers, you know it would have been emblazoned across the front of every newspaper and would have led ever telecast for at least a day or two. But I'm guessing that 99% of you had never seen it until now. I'm a news junkie and I hadn't.

So what do you think? Does it cross the line to storm a person's private home with an organized, loud, and threatening protest? And why wasn't this as newsworthy as a Tea Party event?

What's really behind SEIU's Bank of America protests?​

by Nina Easton

(FORTUNE) -- Every journalist loves a peaceful protest-whether it makes news, shakes up a political season, or holds out the possibility of altering history. Then there are the ones that show up on your curb--literally.

Last Sunday, on a peaceful, sun-crisp afternoon, our toddler finally napping upstairs, my front yard exploded with 500 screaming, placard-waving strangers on a mission to intimidate my neighbor, Greg Baer. Baer is deputy general counsel for corporate law at Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500), a senior executive based in Washington, D.C. And that -- in the minds of the organizers at the politically influential Service Employees International Union and a Chicago outfit called National Political Action -- makes his family fair game.

Waving signs denouncing bank "greed," hordes of invaders poured out of 14 school buses, up Baer's steps, and onto his front porch. As bullhorns rattled with stories of debtor calls and foreclosed homes, Baer's teenage son Jack -- alone in the house -- locked himself in the bathroom. "When are they going to leave?" Jack pleaded when I called to check on him.

Baer, on his way home from a Little League game, parked his car around the corner, called the police, and made a quick calculation to leave his younger son behind while he tried to rescue his increasingly distressed teen. He made his way through a din of barked demands and insults from the activists who proudly "outed" him, and slipped through his front door. . . .

More here:
What's really behind SEIU's Bank of America protests - May. 19, 2010

This stuff drives me crazy.

Morans.

Me too. And with the exception of Modbert who did wade in for a bit, you'll note that those who have shown up on every Tea Party thread to pelt the Tea Partiers with the worst insults they can think of have yet to make their presence known here?

Telling isn't it.

 

[Toro]

You just don't go to someone's house to protest.

Whatever those guys are for, I'm against. I have no idea what they are protesting, but since they are such rude douchebag morons, they must be wrong.

 

[Big Fitz]

it's only a matter of time before one of these thugs gets themselves shot because they harassed the wrong person.