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Romney's 47 percent figure lumped together separate groups that have little relation to one another. Most Americans do pay taxes: The poorest fifth of Americans paid an effective tax rate of 17 percent last year, and the second-poorest fifth paid an effective tax rate of 21 percent, when factoring in payroll taxes, sales taxes and property taxes, among others, according to Citizens for Tax Justice.
It is true that 46 percent of American households did not pay federal income taxes last year, according to the Tax Policy Center. But that number is unusually high, in part because of the recession -- and a majority of that 46 percent still paid payroll taxes. Only 18 percent of American households paid no income taxes and no payroll taxes last year. It is largely low-income seniors and very poor people that legally don't pay federal income taxes or payroll taxes, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities and the Tax Policy Center.
It was also inaccurate for Romney to claim that those who don't pay federal income taxes would vote for President Obama "no matter what." Nearly all states with a high percentage of Americans that don't pay federal income taxes vote Republican in presidential elections, according to the Washington Post.
I keep on seeing this breakdown of taxes paid and by whom and I am sick and tired of the Rethugs on this thread no posting their information showing 47% of americans pay not a single fuking dime.........oops .... I mean where 47% of Americans do not pay the taxes that Mittens I am a multi millioniare Rommney told his buddies they don't pay.
Those are the taxes Ima talking about.
Come on you rethugs. Hold up your end. Post those numbers. refute refute with cold hard facts.
Or stfu and admit your man blew it. Again. This is starting to feel familiar isnt' it?
" We're going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory some of those loophole were understandable, but in practice, they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing." ~ Ronald Reagan
actually Va...I think you were being sarcastic with this post....I think you are one of the mature ones in this thread.
LMAO...and Barb thanked you for it....not even realizing it.
Honestly, Jarhead....I really don't care what he meant. Romney has touted himself as being this really smart businessman, which somehow qualifies him to be POTUS. Saying things like this, regardless of his intent, knowing how they sound, is just plain stupid. I would never have voted for Romney anyway, but for those who were considering it, things like this can have the ability to sway their opinion against him, you know?
when I used to own my business, the way I spoke to my clients was different than the was I spoke to my employees. This was a closed door forum with his financial supporters. He was not on his guard and by no means was it meant the way it was spun.
I used the example of when the same dirty tactic was used against Obama regarding the religion and guns thing.
The only difference is...whereas the right spun what he said back then...and the left is spinning what Romney said now.....the media back then took Obamas explanation and reported it as such "an explanation"....whereas the media this time is ignoring Romeys explanantion and continuing to report on the spin.
And contrary to what Rdd said...I am not blaming the media for how Romeny said what he said...I am blaming the media for not givingh it the same type of coverage they gave the Obama situation....and we all know that the majority of the voiters base their decisions on what they hear in the media...very few are interested in politics as we are.
Now...that being said...this is an election about two completely different ideologies...
One is big government; government control; programs for the people
The other is small gvernment; free enterpise; programs ONLY for the neediest
Which is best? We both differ with our senitments....but it would be a shame if spin, selective reporting and lies decides this election
Honestly, Jarhead....I really don't care what he meant. Romney has touted himself as being this really smart businessman, which somehow qualifies him to be POTUS. Saying things like this, regardless of his intent, knowing how they sound, is just plain stupid. I would never have voted for Romney anyway, but for those who were considering it, things like this can have the ability to sway their opinion against him, you know?
when I used to own my business, the way I spoke to my clients was different than the was I spoke to my employees. This was a closed door forum with his financial supporters. He was not on his guard and by no means was it meant the way it was spun.
I used the example of when the same dirty tactic was used against Obama regarding the religion and guns thing.
The only difference is...whereas the right spun what he said back then...and the left is spinning what Romney said now.....the media back then took Obamas explanation and reported it as such "an explanation"....whereas the media this time is ignoring Romeys explanantion and continuing to report on the spin.
And contrary to what Rdd said...I am not blaming the media for how Romeny said what he said...I am blaming the media for not givingh it the same type of coverage they gave the Obama situation....and we all know that the majority of the voiters base their decisions on what they hear in the media...very few are interested in politics as we are.
Now...that being said...this is an election about two completely different ideologies...
One is big government; government control; programs for the people
The other is small gvernment; free enterpise; programs ONLY for the neediest
Which is best? We both differ with our senitments....but it would be a shame if spin, selective reporting and lies decides this election
Programs ONLY for the neediest? That would make sense. But where has that been stated in the platform? If you listen to what's being said I have not heard one idea that will determine who "the neediest are". Just sweeping generlizations that all poor people are on welfare or that 47% of the country are dependent on government....that sort of nonsense.
I'm all for a plan that weeds out the moochers. Does such a plan exist?
when I used to own my business, the way I spoke to my clients was different than the was I spoke to my employees. This was a closed door forum with his financial supporters. He was not on his guard and by no means was it meant the way it was spun.
I used the example of when the same dirty tactic was used against Obama regarding the religion and guns thing.
The only difference is...whereas the right spun what he said back then...and the left is spinning what Romney said now.....the media back then took Obamas explanation and reported it as such "an explanation"....whereas the media this time is ignoring Romeys explanantion and continuing to report on the spin.
And contrary to what Rdd said...I am not blaming the media for how Romeny said what he said...I am blaming the media for not givingh it the same type of coverage they gave the Obama situation....and we all know that the majority of the voiters base their decisions on what they hear in the media...very few are interested in politics as we are.
Now...that being said...this is an election about two completely different ideologies...
One is big government; government control; programs for the people
The other is small gvernment; free enterpise; programs ONLY for the neediest
Which is best? We both differ with our senitments....but it would be a shame if spin, selective reporting and lies decides this election
Programs ONLY for the neediest? That would make sense. But where has that been stated in the platform? If you listen to what's being said I have not heard one idea that will determine who "the neediest are". Just sweeping generlizations that all poor people are on welfare or that 47% of the country are dependent on government....that sort of nonsense.
I'm all for a plan that weeds out the moochers. Does such a plan exist?
Sadly...you have not been paying attention to Romney when he speaks. You only hear the crap about him.
He has made it clear many times that he supports saftey nets for the neediest. He even mentioned it in his explanation. Sadfy, not many heard his explanation.
" We're going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory some of those loophole were understandable, but in practice, they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing." ~ Ronald Reagan
" We're going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory some of those loophole were understandable, but in practice, they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing." ~ Ronald Reagan
And they were eliminated from the tax laws you freaking child.
there are no loopholes.....investing overseas is a practice that allows for overseas investors to invest in America.
What you call loopholes (due to you being naive) are not loopholes...they were intentionally written into the tax laws by republicans AND democrats to give an incentive to investors to invest overseas.
In addition, this bill reduces from 30 percent to 10 percent the rate of Virgin Islands tax imposed on certain payments of Virgin Islands source income to U.S. corporations, citizens, and resident aliens. The lowering of the tax rate will significantly encourage U.S. investment in the Virgin Islands and will give the Virgin Islands parity with Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands.169 [Emphasis mine]
In Ca back in 2007, Obama was talking about how frustrated Americans in Pa were. He then explained how they cling to their guns and religion and take it out on those that are not like them..
He did not say "some of them"......so I guess we should assume he meant ALL of those frustrated Americans living in Pa are religious gun toting racists?
Well...I didnt take it that way....did you?
Stop debating like a child.
To be perfectly honest I really am not concerned with what Romney said ABOUT those people. What really bothers me is that he said "It's not my job to worry about them" Well it is his job as President of the USA to worry about all of us. This is what Obama said "To those Americans who's support I have yet to earn. I may not have won your vote but I hear your voice. I need your help and I will be your President too"
uh...excuse me....
It was quite obvious that he said his job was not to worry about GETTING THEIR VOTES....
Just as it is not Obamas job trying to get the votes of a libertarian.
Romney doesn't pay federal income taxes or Social Security taxes or Medicare taxes.
Romney is a welfare queen.
Romney's 47 percent figure lumped together separate groups that have little relation to one another. Most Americans do pay taxes: The poorest fifth of Americans paid an effective tax rate of 17 percent last year, and the second-poorest fifth paid an effective tax rate of 21 percent, when factoring in payroll taxes, sales taxes and property taxes, among others, according to Citizens for Tax Justice.
It is true that 46 percent of American households did not pay federal income taxes last year, according to the Tax Policy Center. But that number is unusually high, in part because of the recession -- and a majority of that 46 percent still paid payroll taxes. Only 18 percent of American households paid no income taxes and no payroll taxes last year. It is largely low-income seniors and very poor people that legally don't pay federal income taxes or payroll taxes, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities and the Tax Policy Center.
It was also inaccurate for Romney to claim that those who don't pay federal income taxes would vote for President Obama "no matter what." Nearly all states with a high percentage of Americans that don't pay federal income taxes vote Republican in presidential elections, according to the Washington Post.
Many take advantage of the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), originally a Republican [/B]policy that offers a tax break to low-income working parents. According to the authors
hold it. did,t you say that republicans hate the poor.?
Guess it's you that lies.
uh...excuse me....
It was quite obvious that he said his job was not to worry about GETTING THEIR VOTES....
Just as it is not Obamas job trying to get the votes of a libertarian.
I understand that and I think it's wrong. If you are not worried about getting their vote then you obviously have no concern for those people. Every vote counts and personally I would want to work to get some votes from those 47% (who are mostly republican) because if this guy has 47% of the vote locked down then he only needs win over another 4% while I need to win over another 53%. See this is that arithmetic ole Billy spoke of.
And by "not worrying about getting their votes", that means he has no intention of looking out for them as POTUS, yes?
