Seems Like Everyday Obama Is Backing Off a Campaign Pledge

Low Key = Office of the President Elect :ack-1:

It would be interesting to compare this president elect to others, in terms of 'low key'

No matter, agree with him or disagree, we all need him to make choices which provide positive results for the nation as a whole and he has to be given an opportunity to either rise or fall on his own.

The only time I can or will ever take him to task is when his words do not support his actions. But, for me that criteria stands for everyone.

I do find the little sign stuck on his podium funny cheesy and I can't resist cracking on it.
 
So, why Obama?

Because the only thing the anti Obamistas could come up with seemed to be nonsense: He is the AntiChrist, he's a Marxist, he is a Muslim terrorist, he wasn't born in the US, and, a real gem you may not have heard, he's the son of Malcom X.

If his enemies can't come up with anything real, he must be a pretty good choice.



Well I certainly agree with you about those claims. I am curious though why you didn't mention the ones of substance though. The ones based on political fact.

Yes he is walking into a buzz saw and yes, he will have to change some of his many grand promises. BUT, you know, none of this just happened. In fact, anyone with any education at all would have seen it long before this. so I must wonder, why did he make promises he knew he would have to back off of? Or if he didn't know, then I must wonder exactly how smart he is and his advisors.

You see one of the biggest smoke screens from all sides here is that this just popped up. That they didn't know. That they couldn't imagine it being this bad.

Maybe all of them, yes, Obama included really should get out and spend some time on the "Main Street" they all so fondly speak of.

I too hope he does well. We all desperately need him to, but, it all is not in his hands. He is limited as each president is, so we all need to keep the heat on all of the others in that merry little playground called DC.
 
Well I certainly agree with you about those claims. I am curious though why you didn't mention the ones of substance though. The ones based on political fact.

That would have to have been his lack of experience, which was a big issue in my mind. His enemies seemed to keep harping on the nonsense issues, however, instead of that one.


Yes he is walking into a buzz saw and yes, he will have to change some of his many grand promises. BUT, you know, none of this just happened. In fact, anyone with any education at all would have seen it long before this. so I must wonder, why did he make promises he knew he would have to back off of? Or if he didn't know, then I must wonder exactly how smart he is and his advisors.


Of course, the way to get elected is to promise the stars, and hope you can deliver the moon. Tell the voters the whole truth, warts and all, and they'll choose the other guy every time.

A politician died, and went to the pearly gates. There, he was met by Saint Peter, and by Lucifer. Lucifer offered to show him Hell, saying it was really a great place. He said it just had received some bad press.

The pol went down with Lucifer to see his digs. He saw a wonderful golf course, people playing under a blue sky, having a great time. After a round or two, he was shown to what would be his new home, a two story mansion with its own private pond and ten acres, right across from the golf course. He decided that Hell wouldn't be so bad after all.

When he came back, he was greeted with streets full of garbage, beggars, a small, drafty apartment in a fourth floor walkup, and a blizzard brewing. When he asked where the first Hell was, Lucifer told him:

"What you saw was the campaign promises. What you got was the reality after the election."

I too hope he does well. We all desperately need him to, but, it all is not in his hands. He is limited as each president is, so we all need to keep the heat on all of the others in that merry little playground called DC.

Right on.
 
Perhaps the reason for no responses by Obama supporters is because there really is no point to responding to threads like these.

You all bitched about the things he was promising and now you're bitching because you seem to think he's breaking those promises.

Seems kind of silly to me. Ya'll don't have to suffer under his "socialist" administration and if he doesn't change anything then you get to keep the shitty government you seem to so enjoy. Ya'll should be dancing in the streets.

adn the really funny part is that you're bitching that his supporters aren't bitching about him breaking promises.

We aren't bitching because he hasn't even taken office yet. Some of us will wait until he's actually on the job and in control, with the heavily dem Congress and then we'll see what happens.

I personally suspect he's being low key for now cuz Bush is still in power. The less he ruffles feathers the better. You don't come out screaming about all the shit you'll do when the other guy still has the keys to the castle.

Stephen Colbert said that George Bush was a man who believes on Wednesday what he believed on Monday, regardless of what happened on Tuesday.

Obama takes changing conditions into account and makes the right decision.

It's called wisdom.
 
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The question is, will the people who voted for him hold him accountable for what he promised? Or I guess the better question is do the majority of people who voted for him even know/care what he promised?

Obama Backs Off Windfall Tax Pledge
Newsmax.com - Obama Backs Off Windfall Tax Pledge
Newsmax reports the news the way Louis Farrakhan preaches Judiasm.


All Obama pledged was to return the tax rates to what we had in the end of the Clinton era, which amounts to a hike from 36 to 39 percent for the top income bracket.
 
Stephen Colbert said that George Bush was a man who believes on Wednesday what he believed on Monday, regardless of what happened on Tuesday.

Obama takes changing conditions into account and makes the right decision.

It's called wisdom.


THE DIG


:dig:


THE PUSH


Stephen Colbert studied philosophy at the all-men's private liberal arts school Hampden-Sydney College in Virginia. Afterwards moving to Chicago to study theater!

Stephen Colbert tears up when Obama was elected president!

:night:
 
I love the way people like to rewrite what politicians said about having made "promises" and "having vowed"" to do this or that.

The Anti-Obamans have been playing this let's mischaracterize what Obama said game for months now, and it never fails to amuse me the way what he said is rewritten by his detractors and the those mischaracterizations are commented on with such enthusiasm..

It makes for very dramatic reading.

Highly inaccurate, but dramatic nevertheless.
 
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There is no need to rewrite Obama, his words are very public and there are several sites for people to go read them.

That is the nice thing about politicians. Voting records and the text of addresses are public. Their own claims and their own words are always the best tools to use to debate with.

Of course when you do this, often times you get the tireless "oh everyone does that" or "well that's politics" as if that is some justification in making it OK.

God forbid we might actually expect these people we vote into office and pay for to stand behind their words, promises, policies and expressed principles.
 
There is no need to rewrite Obama, his words are very public and there are several sites for people to go read them.

That is the nice thing about politicians. Voting records and the text of addresses are public. Their own claims and their own words are always the best tools to use to debate with.

Of course when you do this, often times you get the tireless "oh everyone does that" or "well that's politics" as if that is some justification in making it OK.

God forbid we might actually expect these people we vote into office and pay for to stand behind their words, promises, policies and expressed principles.

Really?

Show me the site where obama VOWED to do the things this article says, would you?

I rather doubt he vowed to do anything.

I doubt he promised to do much.

He might have promised to TRY to do things, just as McCain promised to TRY to do things, but that's hardly a vow, now is it?

If you cannot see how this inflamatory selection of words was designed to mischaracterize the truth, Lyc, then you really ought to try to learn something about how subtle propaganda really can be.

Like I say, show me a vow in quotes, would you?
 
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Really?

Show me the site where obama VOWED to do the things this article says, would you?

I rather doubt he vowed to do anything.

I doubt he promised to do much.

He might have promised to TRY to do things, just as McCain promised to TRY to do things, but that's hardly a vow, now is it?

If you cannot see how this inflamatory selection of words was designed to mischaracterize the truth, Lyc, then you really ought to try to learn something about how subtle propaganda really can be.

Like I say, show me a vow in quotes, would you?



I'm sorry but, you lost me here. What article did I share?

In fact, other than having some fun with some good political sarcasm, the only thing I have questioned Obama on so far are his comments in regard to change.

And my comments about that are supported on his web site(s) and the sites which hold the full text of the debates. Further, I understand very well what is a promise and what is a desire (or proposed plan).

Further, if you read my posts where I comment in a serious tone about all of this bull shit, you will notice that my opinion is that it is too early to judge Obama on substance as president.

What I do find interesting is why people like you get so mad because people question his comments? Why you wish to play the other person a dummy for doing that, instead of responding with facts, to support your position. I personally find it comical that Obama, McCain, Bush or any of the lawmakers expect us, the American citizen to buy into this bull that they didn't see any of this coming. That they were preaching and saying one thing, they didn't know where the economy was heading. My opinion is far from limited to your treasured Obama.

Then you add .... show me a vow in quotes!

LOL ........... Save it pal. Play your word and phrase games with someone else. The mans speeches and debates are well documented. A man is only as good as his word and his ability to stand behind that word. Anytime someone questions Obama's word(s) this is the type of shit we hear. These little plays on words and phrases as if we didn't understand what he meant.
 

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