seeing as hes going to be around in 2012, some facts on newt

[Mr. Shaman]

They excuse their own failings by saying "they all do it." And then point out the exact same failings in the Republicans like they are some moral paragons.
Democrats are the biggest fucking hypocrites to walk the planet.

The Republican Party holds itself up to be some moral beacon of family values, so yes, that is why the morality bar is raised higher for them than the Democrats. Republicans put themselves on a pedestal so when they slip they get called on it more. It's your own fault.

Please quote two Republican officeholders holding themselves up to beacons of family values.

How 'bout a house-full??

(They did have to be good, Christian men, right???)

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[Sarah G]

had an affair while trying to impeach clinton:

Gingrich admits having affair in '90s - Politics - msnbc.com

fined after stealing tax payer money:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/leadership/stories/011897.htm

wanted death penalty for small amounts of drugs:

Gingrich Suggests Tough Drug Measure - NYTimes.com

some conservative role model here!

And he would STILL be a better President than Obama. But alas, I think Newt is unelectable with all the afore mentioned baggage.

But then again, if things get worse, and that could happen, anything is possible.

No he wouldn't. He's very erratic. Republicans would hate that guy as president, you never know what his next policy will be like. He has a lot of issues, the guy is smart but there is a fine line between genius and insanity.

 

[code1211]

had an affair while trying to impeach clinton:

Gingrich admits having affair in '90s - Politics - msnbc.com

fined after stealing tax payer money:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/leadership/stories/011897.htm

wanted death penalty for small amounts of drugs:

Gingrich Suggests Tough Drug Measure - NYTimes.com

some conservative role model here!

Blu,

None of this matters to the majority of indoctrinated right-wing fanatics.

Lucifer could manifest, declare himself and run for President and as long as he is on the Republican side he will get millions of votes. We are dealing today with the same phenomenon that brought the Third Reich to power, a predominately unsophisticated, politically ignorant, brainwashed electorate.

That's what it takes and that's what they've got.

It might be wise to study to history a little before making broad, unfounded proclaimations about it.

Hitler's crowd was a group of thugs who bullied their way into power aided by the times. However, the populace was about the same as any other except that there people starving in the streets, inflation had gone wild, the entire world was bleeding the country white for war reparations and the people were gripped by what could have been termed a "vast national malaise".

Hitler rose because he focused the anger of the people on a common enemy, actually several, and he told them basically two things: If they elected him, he would return the country to greatness and they would eat the same day he took office.

They elected him and he had wagons rolling through Berlin the following day with bread distributing to all who could come to the side bars.

Political manuevering and intimidation caused a variety of events that soon led to the consolidation of leadership posts into one and the position of "Leader" was soon the result.

What is required to bring a bad man into office is a ruined country and a bleak future. This results in people giving up their rights and following a person who promises the return to the "good old days".

What is required is the dismantaling of the economy, the centralization of power politically and a majority comprised of ignorant idiots who do not study history.

Does any of this sound familiar?

 

[code1211]

had an affair while trying to impeach clinton:

Gingrich admits having affair in '90s - Politics - msnbc.com

fined after stealing tax payer money:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/leadership/stories/011897.htm

wanted death penalty for small amounts of drugs:

Gingrich Suggests Tough Drug Measure - NYTimes.com

some conservative role model here!

And he would STILL be a better President than Obama. But alas, I think Newt is unelectable with all the afore mentioned baggage.

But then again, if things get worse, and that could happen, anything is possible.

No he wouldn't. He's very erratic. Republicans would hate that guy as president, you never know what his next policy will be like. He has a lot of issues, the guy is smart but there is a fine line between genius and insanity.

I don't agree with that. Newt is very smart and speaks in sentences too long to fit the IQ of most in the media. Because he's smarter than they are, they like to snipe at him.

My favorite example of this is the statement he made about a program that would "die on the vine". The Democrats picked this up and the disingenuous media media allowed that to go on. Rarely was there a correction from any in the media saying that Newt had presented a choice and that the current option would be found to be so bad that everyone would opt to the other choice.

It would "die on the vine" due to public preferance. The Democrats implied, and the media allowed the implication to stand, that the evil government led by Newt would somehow make that program die on the vine and leave our defenseless seniors out in the cold.

To your point, though, he often covers multiple options and thoughts in the same sentence and this is confusing unless taken in context. His mind moves fast and can accomodate more than one position while he carries on an inner debate. Most intelligent people are like this. Considering and discarding options and opinions while deciding on a course of action.

His positions, however, are pretty constant and this is based on a lifetime of considered thought and analysis.

Positions held because of logic are pretty solid. Positions held due to political caprice are pretty liquid and lead to statemnts like, "I was for it before I was against it."

Newt's positions are based on a respect and admiration of the capabilities of the human spirit and the nobility of and power in the adherance to hard work and determined effort.

What are examples of Newt's changing positions?