Security Clearances - an Anecdote

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There is a "Whistle-Blower" bloviating now about how higher-ups in the Trump Administration have overridden rejections of security clearances for about two dozen government officials and consultants. There is no claim that the Higher-ups don't have the authority to do this; she just doesn't think it's nice.

I was turned down for a Security Clearance when I applied to work for DoD in 1975.

Turns out, I had "failed" a polygraph test when applying for a job as a security guard a few years earlier, and it gave the FBI a little heartburn. I got it sorted out, but it was a bit of an embarrassment.

What happened?

Well, during the polygraph I was asked (among many other things) whether I had ever missed work due to drunkenness. The test was set up for me to say "No" to every question. This didn't come up in the interview. There was ONE time while I was in the Army when I was unable to come to work because I was too sick and hung over. Lie #1. "Have you ever stolen from your employer?" Again, when thinking about it during the exam, I remembered numerous things that I had taken from my office while I was in the army. Paper, pens, envelopes, things like that. Lie #2.

I had failed a polygraph test.

The security company hired me anyway and I worked there for a few months until I found a better job. So I never have any strong reactions when I hear that someone had a problem with a security clearance. It could be nothing at all.
 
There is a "Whistle-Blower" bloviating now about how higher-ups in the Trump Administration have overridden rejections of security clearances for about two dozen government officials and consultants. There is no claim that the Higher-ups don't have the authority to do this; she just doesn't think it's nice.

I was turned down for a Security Clearance when I applied to work for DoD in 1975.

Turns out, I had "failed" a polygraph test when applying for a job as a security guard a few years earlier, and it gave the FBI a little heartburn. I got it sorted out, but it was a bit of an embarrassment.

What happened?

Well, during the polygraph I was asked (among many other things) whether I had ever missed work due to drunkenness. The test was set up for me to say "No" to every question. This didn't come up in the interview. There was ONE time while I was in the Army when I was unable to come to work because I was too sick and hung over. Lie #1. "Have you ever stolen from your employer?" Again, when thinking about it during the exam, I remembered numerous things that I had taken from my office while I was in the army. Paper, pens, envelopes, things like that. Lie #2.

I had failed a polygraph test.

The security company hired me anyway and I worked there for a few months until I found a better job. So I never have any strong reactions when I hear that someone had a problem with a security clearance. It could be nothing at all.


And you were given the chance to explain, and straighten out any mistakes just as those mentioned were. Obviously you were able to clear up any questions. Those mentioned didn't, even though they were given every opportunity to do so.
 
You are inferring, I believe, facts not in evidence.

The accuser is obviously part of the resentful Deep State. What she says must be taken with the proverbial grain of salt.
 
Whistleblower says White House overruled 25 security clearance denials

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Here it comes. The Mueller probe’s a flop so the Dims are out to get the president any way they can.


Cummings waits until 8:30am, Saturday, March 23, to call the closed-door hearing in which this “18 year employee” of the White House Personnel Security Office releases a highly-privileged list of people she felt were given security clearances over her disapproval. As if she is God or something.


The Swamp do you think?


Cummings said he will move this week to authorize his first subpoena in the probe, which will be for the deposition of Carl Kline.

Kline served as the White House personnel security director and supervised Newbold. He has since left the White House for the Defense Department.

More of this travesty @ Whistleblower says White House overruled 25 security clearance denials | My Connection from Cox

Just read where’s she’s brazen enough to return to work!
 
You are inferring, I believe, facts not in evidence.

The accuser is obviously part of the resentful Deep State. What she says must be taken with the proverbial grain of salt.

One hearing will clear it all up if all the clearances were legitimate.If they were not, the country cannot allow unqualified people to stay in those positions.
 
White House whistleblower "humiliated" after security clearance report



What the hell did she expect? That her boss and co-workers would turn a blind eye to her treason?

The White House whistleblower told NBC’s Peter Alexander the supervisor moved files to a shelf beyond her reach. "It was definitely humiliating," said Newbold, who has been a White House security adviser for 18 years and has a rare form of dwarfism. "But it didn’t stop me from doing what was right."

They moved files? That humiliated her?


She shoots off her big mouth, knowing full well it was an attack on the man in the Oval Office and she’s whining about the results?


More
@ White House whistleblower says she felt "humiliated" after reporting security clearance issue
 
White House whistleblower "humiliated" after security clearance report



What the hell did she expect? That her boss and co-workers would turn a blind eye to her treason?

The White House whistleblower told NBC’s Peter Alexander the supervisor moved files to a shelf beyond her reach. "It was definitely humiliating," said Newbold, who has been a White House security adviser for 18 years and has a rare form of dwarfism. "But it didn’t stop me from doing what was right."

They moved files? That humiliated her?


She shoots off her big mouth, knowing full well it was an attack on the man in the Oval Office and she’s whining about the results?


More
@ White House whistleblower says she felt "humiliated" after reporting security clearance issue


Yes, Childish petty behavior can always be expected from Trump and his followers.
 
White House whistleblower "humiliated" after security clearance report



What the hell did she expect? That her boss and co-workers would turn a blind eye to her treason?

The White House whistleblower told NBC’s Peter Alexander the supervisor moved files to a shelf beyond her reach. "It was definitely humiliating," said Newbold, who has been a White House security adviser for 18 years and has a rare form of dwarfism. "But it didn’t stop me from doing what was right."

They moved files? That humiliated her?


She shoots off her big mouth, knowing full well it was an attack on the man in the Oval Office and she’s whining about the results?


More
@ White House whistleblower says she felt "humiliated" after reporting security clearance issue


Yes, Childish petty behavior can always be expected from Trump and his followers.


Are you so ignorant that you cannot see that she is NOT a Trump supporter? She tried to rat him out because she's an unaccountable swamp rat bureaucrat.
 
White House whistleblower "humiliated" after security clearance report



What the hell did she expect? That her boss and co-workers would turn a blind eye to her treason?

The White House whistleblower told NBC’s Peter Alexander the supervisor moved files to a shelf beyond her reach. "It was definitely humiliating," said Newbold, who has been a White House security adviser for 18 years and has a rare form of dwarfism. "But it didn’t stop me from doing what was right."

They moved files? That humiliated her?


She shoots off her big mouth, knowing full well it was an attack on the man in the Oval Office and she’s whining about the results?


More
@ White House whistleblower says she felt "humiliated" after reporting security clearance issue


Yes, Childish petty behavior can always be expected from Trump and his followers.


Are you so ignorant that you cannot see that she is NOT a Trump supporter? She tried to rat him out because she's an unaccountable swamp rat bureaucrat.


You're still having comprehension problems. Oh well.
 
Leftists seem to have a hard time dealing with Officials exercising their legal discretion. Staffers make recommendations to the officials; the officials exercise their discretion. It's really not all that complicated.

So it is with these security clearances. the staffers have a list of disqualifying factors, and they make their recommendations to the Official accordingly. But the Official makes the final call.

A baseball analogy: A coach tells the manager that a certain pinch hitter "really hits Lefty's good!" The manager elects to use another pinch hitter. The manager has exercised his discretion, and will be the one who gets the blame or the credit, depending on how it works out. The coach tells a reporter after the game that he recommended another hitter, "who woulda got a hit!" Coach gets fired.

But that's where the analogy fails, because staffers are Civil Service and can never get fired.
 
Leftists seem to have a hard time dealing with Officials exercising their legal discretion. Staffers make recommendations to the officials; the officials exercise their discretion. It's really not all that complicated.

So it is with these security clearances. the staffers have a list of disqualifying factors, and they make their recommendations to the Official accordingly. But the Official makes the final call.

A baseball analogy: A coach tells the manager that a certain pinch hitter "really hits Lefty's good!" The manager elects to use another pinch hitter. The manager has exercised his discretion, and will be the one who gets the blame or the credit, depending on how it works out. The coach tells a reporter after the game that he recommended another hitter, "who woulda got a hit!" Coach gets fired.

But that's where the analogy fails, because staffers are Civil Service and can never get fired.

The difference being that the coach is just responsible to the team. Security decisions effect the entire country.
 
My line of work has sent me to some really interesting places. For many years. Places where I've had to have been escorted by men with guns. Big guns, too. Ha. I've seen some cool stuff, too, lemme tell ya.

I've had to repeat personality testing more so than background checks. That was actually the biggest obstacle to being abe to maintain a crew of men, their personalities were what got them left out of working on certain projects. I'm an INTJ every single time and I've never not been permittted to enter sensitive facilities.
 
Leftists seem to have a hard time dealing with Officials exercising their legal discretion. Staffers make recommendations to the officials; the officials exercise their discretion. It's really not all that complicated.

So it is with these security clearances. the staffers have a list of disqualifying factors, and they make their recommendations to the Official accordingly. But the Official makes the final call.

A baseball analogy: A coach tells the manager that a certain pinch hitter "really hits Lefty's good!" The manager elects to use another pinch hitter. The manager has exercised his discretion, and will be the one who gets the blame or the credit, depending on how it works out. The coach tells a reporter after the game that he recommended another hitter, "who woulda got a hit!" Coach gets fired.

But that's where the analogy fails, because staffers are Civil Service and can never get fired.

But that's where the analogy fails, because staffers are Civil Service and can never get fired.

That's the crux of the situation here. She's an "18 year employee" who probably feels superior to the guy who turned down her recommendations. He might've been promoted over her or is a Trump appointee.

Pure sour apples and Cummings is doing everything he can to play it up.
 

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