Secularists vs Traditionalists

[Sky Dancer]

It wouldn't be my career choice. But hey, my parent's weren't uber-uptight Christian fundamentalists. Do you know that most sex shop owners were raised by Christians?

Some folks don't understand the concept of the feminist sex stores. Theire minds are still in the gutter. They want to keep the old 'masturbation service centers' of the past. The old style porn/sex shops.

 

[Said1]

His job was to provide sperm. Aside from the noted weekly visit, I doubt the family unit is that cohesive.

 

[Sky Dancer]

The family unit is the single mom, and her son. It seems cohesive. Sperm donor dad visits. So what? It works for them.

 

[Said1]

The family unit is the single mom, and her son. It seems cohesive. Sperm donor dad visits. So what? It works for them.

You brought up 'family'.

 

[Sky Dancer]

The family unit is the single mom, and her son. It seems cohesive. Sperm donor dad visits. So what? It works for them.

You brought up 'family'.

They're still a family. Just a non-traditional family. there are plenty of non-traditional families around; step families, adoptive families, two moms, two dads, single parent families etc.

 

[Said1]

The family unit is the single mom, and her son. It seems cohesive. Sperm donor dad visits. So what? It works for them.

You brought up 'family'.

They're still a family. Just a non-traditional family. there are plenty of non-traditional families around; step families, adoptive families, two moms, two dads, single parent families etc.

Really? Tell me more about these 'non-traditional' families?

 

[Sky Dancer]

Are you saying the only families you know are two parent families?

Here's a resource for your reading pleasure:
http://www.cyfernet.org/parent/nontradfam.html

 

[Said1]

Are you saying the only families you know are two parent families?

Here's a resource for your reading pleasure:
Non-traditional Families: A Guide for Parents

Thanks.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Here's another resource:

Today's U.S. children under age 18 live in different family structures than children did during the 1970's. Families have changed, and these changes have implications for the circumstances of children. Now, children compose a smaller percentage of the population than they did years ago. More children are living in single-parent families, often headed by a never-married parent. These different family structures influence the economic well-being of children.

Federal Statistics: Children and Family Composition | Family Economics and Nutrition Review | Find Articles at BNET

 

[Epsilon Delta]

We don't get to order the universe and everyone in it to do our bidding.

And its just such a drag...

 

[Sky Dancer]

We don't get to order the universe and everyone in it to do our bidding.

And its just such a drag...

True enough. Not too many of us are 'universal monarchs'.

 

[midcan5]

Did y'all use didoes as pacifiers too ? How many butt plugs did you have for pets ?

You do realize that says more about you and where your mind is then is necessary.

 

[KittenKoder]

Strange, the title does not match where this discussion is now and too lazy to look back. However from personal observation while growing up and even now:

Single parent families and two parent families have little difference in the effect on the kids. The problems are never created by a lack of one parent or avoided by the presence of both.

 

[Rusticus]

To say the least. This woman's behavior is tantamount to child abuse, allowing her 3 year old to freely play with vibrators.

Why is that tantamount to child abuse?

I feel that the atmosphere that this child is FORCED to grow up in is not conducive to a healthy upbringing. Imagine it this way: A normal child may walk by this store and see one in a window, but this little boy is given one as a toy.

Is this the kind of toy you gave your kid when he was 3?

Now, how are the ever going to be able to teach this kid that sex is dirty and shameful. They're probably not even going to tell him that masturbation will make him blind. The shame of it!

 

[KittenKoder]

Why is that tantamount to child abuse?

I feel that the atmosphere that this child is FORCED to grow up in is not conducive to a healthy upbringing. Imagine it this way: A normal child may walk by this store and see one in a window, but this little boy is given one as a toy.

Is this the kind of toy you gave your kid when he was 3?

Now, how are the ever going to be able to teach this kid that sex is dirty and shameful. They're probably not even going to tell him that masturbation will make him blind. The shame of it!

Or that masturbation will make the penis shrink ... that one was always funny.

 

[eots]

poor little bastard....

 

[PoliticalChic]

I have to agree with this woman's worldview and view on sexual knowledge. The people I know who have the least hangups about sex are those with open minds and an understanding of sex in both its intrinsic biologic nature and its psychological power. I am part of a large family and have seen all approaches and openness is best. Consider that most sexual deviants come from so called normal families, that requires either depravity is inherent or experience related. I remember once going through vcr tapes our boys used and finding much porn. Never said a thing and they are good married fathers today. More to life than weirdness and weirdness requires others thing. Sex is magic if done right and shouldn't be surrounded by idiocy.

Separate and apart from the total morons who have responded in this thread, I'm disappointed that so many educated and intelligent members of this board continue to live the "60's," where self-actualization is more important than any obligations to society, and to the young that they have brought into this world. This individual in this article, cerrtainly not a lady, personifies so many single mothers, so many who live in the moment, doing whatever feels good, rather than giving the due respect to the values and traditions that have nurtured society for so long. Perhaps there is no G-d, no afterlife, or even no absolutes, but that does not give one the right to abrogate our obligations to our children.

I believe sexuality should be revealed like peeling the layers off an onion, not like Heather Has Two Mommies imposed on kindergarteners or vibrators given as toys for a 3 year old. Perhaps if there was a loving committed husband with an alternative view, he might be able to put the brakes on this kind of behavior.

But rather than conjecture on the upbringing of the child, in a committed married relationship. Here are some of the cold hard facts:

The single most important indicator that a child will end up in prison is to have that child be raised by a single mother. The majority of juvenile rapists and murderers come from single mother homes.

So you secularists, still believe that raising a child in a single mother home is acceptable?

The majority of those children having babies as teenagers, dropping out of school, and committing suicide were raised by single mothers.

Runaways, junvenile delinquents, and child murderers, the same.

Still can't budge you from your progressive opinion? It's pretty clear that your opinion is based on feeling, and not on knowing.

How about insisting that young girls be sexually promiscuous? Good idea? Chances are good if they are raised by a single mother.

And let's make sure that as adolescents that they are substance abusers as well: single mother homes.

So here's my point. I totally disagree with this woman's lifestyle, but I am also upset that what used to be a family friendly traditionalist magazine is now supporting this bizarre environment for this child. Woe betide us.

"Urban Violence Begins in Broken Homes
If there is any “deliberate racial discrimination” that drives violence and crime in black urban areas, it is the racial discrimination of the left. It is the racial discrimination of identity politics, which promote the idea that different ethnicities should live under different rules and receive special treatment.

The perpetrators, and victims, of violence in Chicago and other urban areas are largely young black men. They mostly come from homes with no father and from communities where this reality is the rule rather than the exception.

Making a child is not hard to do. Raising a child and conveying the values and rules that make for a successful life and responsible adulthood is. Particularly now that popular culture largely dismisses these truths. And in black communities, politics and media are dominated by the left, whose message for them is that life is unfair because of racism and the answer is big government.

Black leaders need to start doing their job and convey that marriage, work, education, and personal responsibility are the only things that will fix black America."
Urban Violence Begins in Broken Homes