Secularists vs Traditionalists

[PoliticalChic]

Woe betide us?

Consider yourself more educated now since you've read the article than you were before, and stop your subscription to the magazine if you can't stand it's content.

There is a poster here who wants to lock all those citizens whose morals he disagrees with in prison. I think you may have common cause with the poster named Sunni Man.

You are of course the perfect example of the secular progressive that makes totally false claims. Could you please find anything in my post that suggests locking anybody up. You probably never heard of this, but it is called creating a strawman. Do you feel more educated now?

I notice that you were unable to argue any of the points that I did make. Was that by choice or inability?

I don't agree with your Henny Penny the sky is falling hysteria over a magazine article. Is that clear enough for you? My point is that you and the poster Sunni Man have views in common.

What is clear, is that the points were too abstruse for you to handle.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Whatever. What irritated you the most? That the woman concieved her child by a sperm donor? That the woman has a healthy, sex-positive attitude? That the woman is a feminist? That the father of her child is part-time? That's she brings her child to work?

I'm so happy someone wrote the article and that you read it. It's good for you to look at your own narrow minded moralism.

This is one family's values--not yours.

The best thing you could do is visit her store and talk to the woman directly. She sounds like quite a character and so do you. Have you ever SEEN a sex toy in your life?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Whatever. What irritated you the most? That the woman concieved her child by a sperm donor? That the woman has a healthy, sex-positive attitude? That the woman is a feminist? That the father of her child is part-time? That's she brings her child to work?

I'm so happy someone wrote the article and that you read it. It's good for you to look at your own narrow minded moralism.

This is one family's values--not yours.

The best thing you could do is visit her store and talk to the woman directly. She sounds like quite a character and so do you. Have you ever SEEN a sex toy in your life?

You seemed to have missed the myriad negative impacts that this type of lifestyle has on children and the rest of society. I recommend that you go back and read my post more carefully. Can you respond to the specifics?

 

[Ravi]

Ask her to provide credible evidence that single mothers result in criminal children. She won't be able to, and neither can her dingbat hero Coulter do it...that's where PC got the information, btw.

Ann sure knows how to stir her credible idiots up.

There's something evil about women that hate other women so much.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Whatever. What irritated you the most? That the woman concieved her child by a sperm donor? That the woman has a healthy, sex-positive attitude? That the woman is a feminist? That the father of her child is part-time? That's she brings her child to work?

I'm so happy someone wrote the article and that you read it. It's good for you to look at your own narrow minded moralism.

This is one family's values--not yours.

The best thing you could do is visit her store and talk to the woman directly. She sounds like quite a character and so do you. Have you ever SEEN a sex toy in your life?

You seemed to have missed the myriad negative impacts that this type of lifestyle has on children and the rest of society. I recommend that you go back and read my post more carefully. Can you respond to the specifics?

It's all a bunch of hogwash. I disagree with every single point you made. You don't know this woman or her child to determine that either of them is living a negative life.

Did you read my links about christian sex shops and feminist sex shops and how they are completely different from porn outlets?

Open your mind. You're not stupid, you're just stubborn and narrow minded.

Plenty of single parents raise children to be perfectly healthy adults. Plenty of screwed up kids come from two parent families.

I think this woman is courageous . I salute her for having a successful business and being a good parent. I celebrate her for having the courage and foresight to open up healthy sex positive businesses for women and take it out of the realm of pornography.

 

[RodISHI]

I agree with you PC.

I was single from 18 on with two babes for five plus years. I was as careful with my children during that time as I could be concerning certain things.

We spent our time learning, playing whatever games we could that did not cost an arm and a leg. At four my daughter popped up out of the blue one day saying, "Mom lets eat some beans and have a farting contest". It floored me. Here I had worked on manners and all I couldn't figure it where she got that one from (Headstart maybe).

I will never regret protecting them as much as I possibly could from the outside influences such as mentioned in this article.

When I went to work at a bar as a bartender for a short stint my children did not know what mom did for a living. Heck why complicate a young life with adult things that need to remain adult things until they are adults.

My son went with a gal for awhile that was a stripper. Those poor babies do not know up from down because mom is such a mess she keeps it all out there for them to know. Her children cherished the time I would take with them to do normal kiddies things such as go to the park. They never complained about the stiff moral rules I laid down when they wished to go with me somewhere.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ask her to provide credible evidence that single mothers result in criminal children. She won't be able to, and neither can her dingbat hero Coulter do it...that's where PC got the information, btw.

Ann sure knows how to stir her credible idiots up.

There's something evil about women that hate other women so much.

Be specific as to which of the claims in my post you require "evidence". And when I do so, quietly crawl back under that rock from whence you came.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Ask her to provide credible evidence that single mothers result in criminal children. She won't be able to, and neither can her dingbat hero Coulter do it...that's where PC got the information, btw.

Ann sure knows how to stir her credible idiots up.

There's something evil about women that hate other women so much.

Be specific as to which of the claims in my post you require "evidence". And when I do so, quietly crawl back under that rock from whence you came.

Is this how you invite posters to participate in an interesting discussion? Take the gloves off and discuss the topic--which according to you--is 'everyone in the universe must agree with my narrow minded moral view.'

I know we don't agree--that's what makes it fun to talk about.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ask her to provide credible evidence that single mothers result in criminal children. She won't be able to, and neither can her dingbat hero Coulter do it...that's where PC got the information, btw.

Ann sure knows how to stir her credible idiots up.

There's something evil about women that hate other women so much.

Be specific as to which of the claims in my post you require "evidence". And when I do so, quietly crawl back under that rock from whence you came.

Is this how you invite posters to participate in an interesting discussion? Take the gloves off and discuss the topic.

Did you have something substantive to say? It's how I respond to someone who refers to me as an "idiot," or did you miss that? Read carefully.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Be specific as to which of the claims in my post you require "evidence". And when I do so, quietly crawl back under that rock from whence you came.

Is this how you invite posters to participate in an interesting discussion? Take the gloves off and discuss the topic.

Did you have something substantive to say? It's how I respond to someone who refers to me as an "idiot," or did you miss that? Read carefully.

Did I call you an idiot? Or did Ravi?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Is this how you invite posters to participate in an interesting discussion? Take the gloves off and discuss the topic.

Did you have something substantive to say? It's how I respond to someone who refers to me as an "idiot," or did you miss that? Read carefully.

Did I call you an idiot? Or did Ravi?

Notice that the quote was from Ravi, and that is the individual to whom I responded. If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Did you have something substantive to say? It's how I respond to someone who refers to me as an "idiot," or did you miss that? Read carefully.

Did I call you an idiot? Or did Ravi?

Notice that the quote was from Ravi, and that is the individual to whom I responded. If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it.

If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it. The same could be said to you about the OP. Leave this woman, her non-traditional family and her feminist sex store alone.

Do you only read about people exactly like you? How boring. Censor that magazine, immediately or just cancel your subscription. We don't get to order the universe and everyone in it to do our bidding.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Did I call you an idiot? Or did Ravi?

Notice that the quote was from Ravi, and that is the individual to whom I responded. If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it.

If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it. The same could be said to you about the OP. Leave this woman, her non-traditional family and her feminist sex store alone.

Do you only read about people exactly like you? How boring. Censor that magazine. Immediately.

I'm guessing that there was not ONE single negative result of a single-mother upbringing that you could disagree with. Your responses are vapid and vague, and pointless.

It seems that the cardinal rule to be a secular-progressive is to never admit that there is a lifestyle or behavior that is BAD. So your credentials are in order.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Notice that the quote was from Ravi, and that is the individual to whom I responded. If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it.

If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it. The same could be said to you about the OP. Leave this woman, her non-traditional family and her feminist sex store alone.

Do you only read about people exactly like you? How boring. Censor that magazine. Immediately.

I'm guessing that there was not ONE single negative result of a single-mother upbringing that you could disagree with. Your responses are vapid and vague, and pointless.

It seems that the cardinal rule to be a secular-progressive is to never admit that there is a lifestyle or behavior that is BAD. So your credentials are in order.

As long as there are single parents who raise healthy children, your Henny Penny the sky is falling argument is weak. Your prejudice is showing.

Why don't you just hang out with people identical to you? Why post on a forum where there are differences of opinion if you can't cut it?

What's your goal? A Stepford Universe? Cookie cutter Political Chic's? What a bore that would be! Isn't this more fun?

 

[Ravi]

Is this how you invite posters to participate in an interesting discussion? Take the gloves off and discuss the topic.

Did you have something substantive to say? It's how I respond to someone who refers to me as an "idiot," or did you miss that? Read carefully.

Did I call you an idiot? Or did Ravi?

Twas moi. And I stand by it. Pretending single motherhood leads to violent children without a shred of evidence other than Ann Coulter's narrow mind makes one an idiot. In Coulter's defense she's probably thinking of Obama when she thinks of juvenile rapists...since he was raised by a single mother and Coulter is basically unhinged.

Not to mention this thread was about some fauxrage over a magazine purporting to be a parent's guide being unfit to share with children. Parent's guides aren't meant to be shared with children.

I won't even bring up the logical question...why so much prurient interest in what other people do?

 

[dilloduck]

I won't even bring up the logical question...why so much prurient interest in what other people do?

actually ---you just did

 

[Sky Dancer]

Did you have something substantive to say? It's how I respond to someone who refers to me as an "idiot," or did you miss that? Read carefully.

Did I call you an idiot? Or did Ravi?

Twas moi. And I stand by it. Pretending single motherhood leads to violent children without a shred of evidence other than Ann Coulter's narrow mind makes one an idiot. In Coulter's defense she's probably thinking of Obama when she thinks of juvenile rapists...since he was raised by a single mother and Coulter is basically unhinged.

Not to mention this thread was about some fauxrage over a magazine purporting to be a parent's guide being unfit to share with children. Parent's guides aren't meant to be shared with children.

I won't even bring up the logical question...why so much prurient interest in what other people do?[/QUOTE]


Because the owner of the sex posiitive store has it all. Single parenthood without an oppressive male in sight, business success, and a sex friendly lifestyle. Good for her.

 

[dilloduck]

Did I call you an idiot? Or did Ravi?

Twas moi. And I stand by it. Pretending single motherhood leads to violent children without a shred of evidence other than Ann Coulter's narrow mind makes one an idiot. In Coulter's defense she's probably thinking of Obama when she thinks of juvenile rapists...since he was raised by a single mother and Coulter is basically unhinged.

Not to mention this thread was about some fauxrage over a magazine purporting to be a parent's guide being unfit to share with children. Parent's guides aren't meant to be shared with children.

I won't even bring up the logical question...why so much prurient interest in what other people do?[/QUOTE]


Because the owner of the sex posiitive store has it all. Single parenthood without an oppressive male in sight, business success, and a sex friendly lifestyle. Good for her.

oppressive male ------

oh lordy take me now !!

 

[Ravi]

It wouldn't be my career choice. But hey, my parent's weren't uber-uptight Christian fundamentalists. Do you know that most sex shop owners were raised by Christians?

 

[Sky Dancer]

Twas moi. And I stand by it. Pretending single motherhood leads to violent children without a shred of evidence other than Ann Coulter's narrow mind makes one an idiot. In Coulter's defense she's probably thinking of Obama when she thinks of juvenile rapists...since he was raised by a single mother and Coulter is basically unhinged.

Not to mention this thread was about some fauxrage over a magazine purporting to be a parent's guide being unfit to share with children. Parent's guides aren't meant to be shared with children.

I won't even bring up the logical question...why so much prurient interest in what other people do?[/QUOTE]


Because the owner of the sex posiitive store has it all. Single parenthood without an oppressive male in sight, business success, and a sex friendly lifestyle. Good for her.

oppressive male ------

oh lordy take me now !!

You must admit the guy in the photo looks like he knows who wears the pants in that family!