Secularism is not the solution

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    So it's not Christian-right Bush, but you eeevil godless anti-Christian secularist liberals who are causing the war! :razz:

     
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    That explains some of the 'firebrand fundamentalists' leaders, but most regular people need some bombs dropped on their home, sanctions, maybe some white phosphorous on their kids before they're REALLY ready to kill infidels...
     
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    Yet another fundementalist retard that cannot parse the difference between secular and athiest. Amusing, in that if he could, he would see that his very own arguments indicate fundementalist retards are still fully, and solely, responsible for this war on terror.
     
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    Well said, lol. Don't leaders need followers?
    Osama sure wasn't sitting on any of those planes...
     
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    That's certainly not what the argument says.

    Parsing aside, the point is that it is not the fundamentalists they hate but the liberal "progressive" (haha) secularists who are the stinking rotten fish in the barrel sliming our entire country. For examples, just check out Hollyweird any day of the week...it's full of secularist retards. Of course they have legions of retarded secularist followers who think they're so :cool:
     
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    His argument states, and restates, that the hate these retards possess is derived directly from their very own fundemetalism.

    But it's not their secularism that is "sliming our entire country"--except in the eyes of retarded fundementalists bent on a theocratic aggenda.
     
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    Yes, but you say fundamentalism as if it is a bad word. Maybe it is to you. Both Muslims and Christians (fundamentalist or not) hate America's "secular sin". This basic agreement is found in all major religions. Today's secularism is opposed to most religious beliefs which are only based in centuries of life and living. You only need to look at the fruits of today's secularism to see how wrong it is for society. So who are actually the "retards" here?

    Christians in this country are not "bent on a theocratic agenda". They do want a "good society" however. This does not mean they think people should follow any particular religion but that they should follow rules that seek the "higher good" for society - which is something ignored by today's secularists as they primarily engage only in selfish pursuits which become destructive both to themselves and society.
     
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    Sounds like Christians would be super environmentalists, and all for closing the income gap... awesome.

    But, as a secularist I feel the same way. I also think (secularly) that we should have a peaceful, inclusive and healthy society... how exactly is that self-destructive?
     
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    Well then there aren't many like you. Why is that? Most people seem to find secularism and its accompanying relativism as an excuse for not following tried and true traditional principles and laws that have been promoted primarily by religious people since our country was founded. Wake up and look around you. Ever since secularists started running things our country has been living in the gutter. Destruction is everywhere.
     
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    I think Scamingeagle's point is that a lot of secularist are all for the hedonistic life style. If it feels good why not do it. this is not the same thing as a healthy society.

    I would also add that you can not have total inclusion for a healthy society either. If you were to let in every fanaticle nutball where would society be. Unfortunately that is exactly what a lot of the "Liberal" "free thnking" "hedonistic" secularist think we should do.

    This will ultimately be the down fall of the US as I see it. We will be so blinded by our own freedom's we want, that we wont see all the subversive coming in and slowly eroding our freedoms by saying you have to repect my beliefs because I might be offended if you dont (gee kinda sounds like now)

    This is what comes from being all inclusive. that is the biggest problem..
     
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