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no apologies necessary.......we all learned something.
like why page #s aren't good for pointing people in the right direction for one......
no apologies necessary.......we all learned something.
like why page #s aren't good for pointing people in the right direction for one......
Something I've noticed in many of the misconceptions about what this bill proposes is too many are taking a line or two or a paragraph here and there out of context. You really need to read from the start of the section (at least) and refer to the current code that is being amended.
Healthcare Decisions Day
WHEREAS, Healthcare Decisions Day is designed to raise public awareness of the need to plan ahead for healthcare decisions, related to end of life care and medical decision-making whenever patients are unable to speak for themselves and to encourage the specific use of advance directives to communicate these important healthcare decisions. WHEREAS, in Alaska, Alaska Statute 13.52 provides the specifics of the advance directives law and offers a model form for patient use.
WHEREAS, it is estimated that only about 20 percent of people in Alaska have executed an advance directive. Moreover, it is estimated that less than 50 percent of severely or terminally ill patients have an advance directive.
WHEREAS, it is likely that a significant reason for these low percentages is that there is both a lack of knowledge and considerable confusion in the public about Advance Directives.
WHEREAS, one of the principal goals of Healthcare Decisions Day is to encourage hospitals, nursing homes, assisted living facilities, continuing care retirement communities, and hospices to participate in a statewide effort to provide clear and consistent information to the public about advance directives, as well as to encourage medical professionals and lawyers to volunteer their time and efforts to improve public knowledge and increase the number of Alaska’s citizens with advance directives.
WHEREAS, the Foundation for End of Life Care in Juneau, Alaska, and other organizations throughout the United States have endorsed this event and are committed to educating the public about the importance of discussing healthcare choices and executing advance directives.
WHEREAS, as a result of April 16, 2008, being recognized as Healthcare Decisions Day in Alaska, more citizens will have conversations about their healthcare decisions; more citizens will execute advance directives to make their wishes known; and fewer families and healthcare providers will have to struggle with making difficult healthcare decisions in the absence of guidance from the patient.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, Sarah Palin, Governor of the state of Alaska, do hereby proclaim April 16, 2008, as:
Healthcare Decisions Day in Alaska, and I call this observance to the attention of all our citizens.
no apologies necessary.......we all learned something.
like why page #s aren't good for pointing people in the right direction for one......
Something I've noticed in many of the misconceptions about what this bill proposes is too many are taking a line or two or a paragraph here and there out of context. You really need to read from the start of the section (at least) and refer to the current code that is being amended.
That and average reading comprehension is realllllllllllly dismal.
Also referencing and/or incorporation/redaction/replacement of existing code is not something people are used to. You have to jump around and back and forth to do it. Most are unwilling or confused by this.
Healthcare Decisions Day
WHEREAS, Healthcare Decisions Day is designed to raise public awareness of the need to plan ahead for healthcare decisions, related to end of life care and medical decision-making whenever patients are unable to speak for themselves and to encourage the specific use of advance directives to communicate these important healthcare decisions. WHEREAS, in Alaska, Alaska Statute 13.52 provides the specifics of the advance directives law and offers a model form for patient use.
WHEREAS, it is estimated that only about 20 percent of people in Alaska have executed an advance directive. Moreover, it is estimated that less than 50 percent of severely or terminally ill patients have an advance directive.
WHEREAS, it is likely that a significant reason for these low percentages is that there is both a lack of knowledge and considerable confusion in the public about Advance Directives.
WHEREAS, one of the principal goals of Healthcare Decisions Day is to encourage hospitals, nursing homes, assisted living facilities, continuing care retirement communities, and hospices to participate in a statewide effort to provide clear and consistent information to the public about advance directives, as well as to encourage medical professionals and lawyers to volunteer their time and efforts to improve public knowledge and increase the number of Alaska’s citizens with advance directives.
WHEREAS, the Foundation for End of Life Care in Juneau, Alaska, and other organizations throughout the United States have endorsed this event and are committed to educating the public about the importance of discussing healthcare choices and executing advance directives.
WHEREAS, as a result of April 16, 2008, being recognized as Healthcare Decisions Day in Alaska, more citizens will have conversations about their healthcare decisions; more citizens will execute advance directives to make their wishes known; and fewer families and healthcare providers will have to struggle with making difficult healthcare decisions in the absence of guidance from the patient.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, Sarah Palin, Governor of the state of Alaska, do hereby proclaim April 16, 2008, as:
Healthcare Decisions Day in Alaska, and I call this observance to the attention of all our citizens.
Have you plastered that in all the appropriate threads, rdean? Should make some heads explode.
WHEREAS, it is likely that a significant reason for these low percentages is that there is both a lack of knowledge and considerable confusion in the public about Advance Directives.
WHEREAS, as a result of April 16, 2008, being recognized as Healthcare Decisions Day in Alaska, more citizens will have conversations about their healthcare decisions; more citizens will execute advance directives to make their wishes known; and fewer families and healthcare providers will have to struggle with making difficult healthcare decisions in the absence of guidance from the patient.
Someone else had suggested that each section of a bill that amends or adds to current law contain a summary (in plain English) what that section is intended to do. Something like that would put a stop to a lot of these rumors.
Healthcare Decisions Day
WHEREAS, Healthcare Decisions Day is designed to raise public awareness of the need to plan ahead for healthcare decisions, related to end of life care and medical decision-making whenever patients are unable to speak for themselves and to encourage the specific use of advance directives to communicate these important healthcare decisions. WHEREAS, in Alaska, Alaska Statute 13.52 provides the specifics of the advance directives law and offers a model form for patient use.
WHEREAS, it is estimated that only about 20 percent of people in Alaska have executed an advance directive. Moreover, it is estimated that less than 50 percent of severely or terminally ill patients have an advance directive.
WHEREAS, it is likely that a significant reason for these low percentages is that there is both a lack of knowledge and considerable confusion in the public about Advance Directives.
WHEREAS, one of the principal goals of Healthcare Decisions Day is to encourage hospitals, nursing homes, assisted living facilities, continuing care retirement communities, and hospices to participate in a statewide effort to provide clear and consistent information to the public about advance directives, as well as to encourage medical professionals and lawyers to volunteer their time and efforts to improve public knowledge and increase the number of Alaskas citizens with advance directives.
WHEREAS, the Foundation for End of Life Care in Juneau, Alaska, and other organizations throughout the United States have endorsed this event and are committed to educating the public about the importance of discussing healthcare choices and executing advance directives.
WHEREAS, as a result of April 16, 2008, being recognized as Healthcare Decisions Day in Alaska, more citizens will have conversations about their healthcare decisions; more citizens will execute advance directives to make their wishes known; and fewer families and healthcare providers will have to struggle with making difficult healthcare decisions in the absence of guidance from the patient.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, Sarah Palin, Governor of the state of Alaska, do hereby proclaim April 16, 2008, as:
Healthcare Decisions Day in Alaska, and I call this observance to the attention of all our citizens.
Have you plastered that in all the appropriate threads, rdean? Should make some heads explode.
I was and someone wrote me a note to stop spamming the boards. Perhaps they didn't like that fact that Sarah was for health care before she was against it.
I think it would be a good idea and not just with the health care bills but any of them. That would certainly put a stop to these ignorant scare tactics the right is pulling.Someone else had suggested that each section of a bill that amends or adds to current law contain a summary (in plain English) what that section is intended to do. Something like that would put a stop to a lot of these rumors.
That would be a good idea. The technical term for this is called: "Legislative Intent" and it usually heads each proposed bill in brief, but in this case, or in all cases really, until more of the population has a familiarity with legalese, it should be utilized heavily.
Crickets. Imagine.
that's cause some of us are working, living life, going to broadway shows with family and friends, yadda, yadda, yadda.... i don't sit at the computer all day
and the purpose of the section has already been explained to you by someone in the health field.
i can't help it if you can't read with comprehension.
oh...and i'm going back to work now... so i may or may not think about this thread again.... and may or may not bother answering you if i do think about it, depending on how ignorant and nasty your answer is. Farshtey?
and perhaps this, from another thread on this board, which you've clearly ignored, will be in simple enough english for you to follow:
FACT CHECK: No 'death panel' in health care bill - Yahoo! News
When this bill was first introduced it was my impression that the section in question while not mandatory had the implied message to Seniors that it was more cost effective for them to consider methods of ending life rather than seeking any and all means available to them that might extend their lives. After much consideration on this matter, and reading the section over and over I have come to two conclusions , first that to make a blanket statement that there is a requirement in the bill as written that Seniors are required to appear before a panel i.e. "death panel" is a little bit of a stretch and can be considered somewhat more of a political intrepretation more so than an actual one. The second thing however is the implied meaning of the section, while perhaps not intentional does send the message as it applies to cost factors to providers and to Seniors by encouraging end of life counsel every 5 years. The message it sends is one that on a cost savings basis it would be easier to counsel Seniors on dignified ways to end their lives rather than seek out perhaps expensive medical care that would perhaps cost the taxpayers more than they had planned on.
One more thing to consider here too is that end of life counsel and living wills, etc. are very private family matters and should NEVER be legislated in any manner by any branch of any Govt. other than the legal aspects that apply to the estates themselves. What people need to consider here, that like it or not, in our society there is a rather large segment that values life in all it forms and see's any encouragement to end it as repulsive. While there are still other segments of our society that see this issue as one of more to do with dignity and respect and wish to encourage it as much as possible and IMO that was the prupose of this section. While, again I think it a little bit of a stretch to just up claim this is a so called section that requires "death panels" I do think that we as a nation must in the end see this matter as a very private family matter that can be done respectfully and without the need for legislation that applies to a healthcare bill.
Educating the public is a whole world different from a directive which subjects clients to forced counseling, and even further from a directive which sets up a panel of attorneys and beaurocrats to determine whose medical expenses will be paid for..in a system that the people are forcibly herded into.
Crickets. Imagine.
that's cause some of us are working, living life, going to broadway shows with family and friends, yadda, yadda, yadda.... i don't sit at the computer all day
and the purpose of the section has already been explained to you by someone in the health field.
i can't help it if you can't read with comprehension.
oh...and i'm going back to work now... so i may or may not think about this thread again.... and may or may not bother answering you if i do think about it, depending on how ignorant and nasty your answer is. Farshtey?
and perhaps this, from another thread on this board, which you've clearly ignored, will be in simple enough english for you to follow:
FACT CHECK: No 'death panel' in health care bill - Yahoo! News
So you had time to come in here, read the posts, and type in a response telling us . . . that you didn't have time to read the posts and respond?
When this bill was first introduced it was my impression that the section in question while not mandatory had the implied message to Seniors that it was more cost effective for them to consider methods of ending life rather than seeking any and all means available to them that might extend their lives. After much consideration on this matter, and reading the section over and over I have come to two conclusions , first that to make a blanket statement that there is a requirement in the bill as written that Seniors are required to appear before a panel i.e. "death panel" is a little bit of a stretch and can be considered somewhat more of a political intrepretation more so than an actual one. The second thing however is the implied meaning of the section, while perhaps not intentional does send the message as it applies to cost factors to providers and to Seniors by encouraging end of life counsel every 5 years. The message it sends is one that on a cost savings basis it would be easier to counsel Seniors on dignified ways to end their lives rather than seek out perhaps expensive medical care that would perhaps cost the taxpayers more than they had planned on.
One more thing to consider here too is that end of life counsel and living wills, etc. are very private family matters and should NEVER be legislated in any manner by any branch of any Govt. other than the legal aspects that apply to the estates themselves. What people need to consider here, that like it or not, in our society there is a rather large segment that values life in all it forms and see's any encouragement to end it as repulsive. While there are still other segments of our society that see this issue as one of more to do with dignity and respect and wish to encourage it as much as possible and IMO that was the prupose of this section. While, again I think it a little bit of a stretch to just up claim this is a so called section that requires "death panels" I do think that we as a nation must in the end see this matter as a very private family matter that can be done respectfully and without the need for legislation that applies to a healthcare bill.
I am in "disgustingly good health for a man my age" as my doctor put it. But should I start seeing signs of failing health, I will see such counsel, whether or not Medicare pays for it. I do not want to put the responsibility for the "pull the plug" decision on my wife or children.
All I see in the wording of this bill is removing the cost of that counsel from my budget. By the way, my mother-in-law recieved just such counseling, and was much happier in facing her last days for it, knowing her exact wishes would be followed.
Crickets. Imagine.
that's cause some of us are working, living life, going to broadway shows with family and friends, yadda, yadda, yadda.... i don't sit at the computer all day
and the purpose of the section has already been explained to you by someone in the health field.
i can't help it if you can't read with comprehension.
oh...and i'm going back to work now... so i may or may not think about this thread again.... and may or may not bother answering you if i do think about it, depending on how ignorant and nasty your answer is. Farshtey?
and perhaps this, from another thread on this board, which you've clearly ignored, will be in simple enough english for you to follow:
FACT CHECK: No 'death panel' in health care bill - Yahoo! News
So you had time to come in here, read the posts, and type in a response telling us . . . that you didn't have time to read the posts and respond?
