Second amendment more important?

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    Is the second amendment more imprtant than the first, which guarantees speech?

    There are all kinds of limits on speech. You may not incite slander defraud etc by use of speech.

    Why are limits on guns, not acceptable?
     
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    Can you grasp the meaning of the word infringed......

    Have we anyway?


    Do you read anything other then the DNC website?
     
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    Red herring.

    Murder is already a capital crime in many states, no matter whether you commit the act with a gun, bomb, crossbow or machete.
     
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    I "grasp" the entire amendment..in plain text.

    It assures the right of the "people" (not person) as in collective, to bear arms, to insure the security of the state in a militia.

    It does not protect the right to hunt.
    It does not protect the right to conceal carry.
    It does not protect the right to use arms for home protection.
    It does not protect the right to "stand your ground".

    That comes from case law.
     
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    All the Progressive Leaders who rose to true greatness, Stalin, Mao, etc, did so because their citizens lacked a Second Amendment
     
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    That pesky Constitution.
     
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    I think so. Infringing on absolute free speech would be the putting of limits on it. Like prohibiting libel or the incitement to riot etc.

    Are you maintaining that you have the right to incite riot or to slander. Perhaps your version of free speech would allow you to lie in court?
     
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    There are already reasonable restrictions on guns. You have reasonable restrictions on speech as well.
     
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    These "reasonable" restrictions on guns have loopholes up the kazoo! Just the way the Colorado shooter amassed his arsenal proves that.
     

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