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The Tenth Amendment recognizes that "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
And suppression of insurrection is explicitly authorized for Congress.
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INSURRECTION. A rebellion of citizens or subjects of a country against its government.
How is it that States with a majority (assumption) of their citizens wanting to be independent peacefully, considered insurrection?
*Disclaimer-- I do not support secession..but I do support STATES RIGHTS
Much too broad.. You noted a section and article of the US Constitution which YOU state supports your argument of an all powerful Federal government. I'd like that direct link.
I'm not into playing games. Article I Section 8 of the Constitution is in the link provided. If you are to lazy to scroll down and read the appropriate section then I can't help you.
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If you want to play personal insults, do it elsewhere.. I've not insulted you, DO THE SAME.
A people who wish to peacefully form their own Union is NOT an insurrection nor is it a revolt..Those are your definitions. Every petitition I've read has stated , "PEACEFULLY."The Constitution doesn't say "armed insurrection". It says "insurrection" which is a revolt against established authority.
Insurrection:: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government
Revolt:: to renounce allegiance or subjection (as to a government)
Insurrection - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Revolt - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Actually there is a huge difference. One is an individual act. The other is an attempt to change an established government.
Texas petitioned the United States for admission to the Union and it took the vote of Congress for such admission to pass, same principle should apply for Texas to leave the union.
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There it is^^^^ YOUR implied definition of REVOLT. You're using your own standard based upon your own set of ideological beliefs.. That's nothing more than your opinion.
Nope the links were to the dictionary definition of insurrection and revolt not "my" definition.
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Well no.
There absolutely should be no right to secede.
There is a right for folks to leave. If they are unhappy they should use that right.
I'm not into playing games. Article I Section 8 of the Constitution is in the link provided. If you are to lazy to scroll down and read the appropriate section then I can't help you.
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If you want to play personal insults, do it elsewhere.. I've not insulted you, DO THE SAME.
Then the next time you ask for a link and one is provided in good faith try not to reply with a snarky comment. The Article I've mentioned is in the Constitution, if you don't want to read the section that is mentioned, that is your problem not mine.
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Because they are part of the United States, which is a superior (has in higher not necessarily better) part of the government. Summary secession without the consent of Congress would be insurrection against the United States.
I also don't support secession and do support state powers as defined under the 10th Amendment, however insurrection suppression is a Congressional authority.
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Because they are part of the United States, which is a superior (has in higher not necessarily better) part of the government. Summary secession without the consent of Congress would be insurrection against the United States.
I also don't support secession and do support state powers as defined under the 10th Amendment, however insurrection suppression is a Congressional authority.
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It's "superior" only in your own mind. secession is not "insurrection."
No one is surprised that a goose stepping statist like you opposes secession. Adolf Hitler held the same position.
I'm not into playing games. Article I Section 8 of the Constitution is in the link provided. If you are to lazy to scroll down and read the appropriate section then I can't help you.
A people who wish to peacefully form their own Union is NOT an insurrection nor is it a revolt..Those are your definitions. Every petitition I've read has stated , "PEACEFULLY."There it is^^^^ YOUR implied definition of REVOLT. You're using your own standard based upon your own set of ideological beliefs.. That's nothing more than your opinion.
Nope the links were to the dictionary definition of insurrection and revolt not "my" definition.
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I'm not into playing games. Article I Section 8 of the Constitution is in the link provided. If you are to lazy to scroll down and read the appropriate section then I can't help you.
That section doesn't support your claim.
I'm not into playing games. Article I Section 8 of the Constitution is in the link provided. If you are to lazy to scroll down and read the appropriate section then I can't help you.
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Nope the links were to the dictionary definition of insurrection and revolt not "my" definition.
And suppression of insurrection is explicitly authorized for Congress.
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INSURRECTION. A rebellion of citizens or subjects of a country against its government.
How is it that States with a majority (assumption) of their citizens wanting to be independent peacefully, considered insurrection?
*Disclaimer-- I do not support secession..but I do support STATES RIGHTS
Because they are part of the United States, which is a superior (has in higher not necessarily better) part of the government. Summary secession without the consent of Congress would be insurrection against the United States.
I also don't support secession and do support state powers as defined under the 10th Amendment, however insurrection suppression is a Congressional authority.
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thats a distinction Obama will not see......If people secede Obama will call it a revolt. True or not war will come.
thats a distinction Obama will not see......If people secede Obama will call it a revolt. True or not war will come.
I would dispute that. Tyrants don't tolerate any opposition to their power.
Insurrection nor revolt require armed conflict, both only require and attempt to usurp the existing government and the suggested OP provides for a PEACEFUL transition to secession.
If you want to play personal insults, do it elsewhere.. I've not insulted you, DO THE SAME.
Then the next time you ask for a link and one is provided in good faith try not to reply with a snarky comment. The Article I've mentioned is in the Constitution, if you don't want to read the section that is mentioned, that is your problem not mine.
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Excuse me????????????????? Asking you to actually BACK UP YOUR OWN ARGUMENT is snarky??
I'm done with this..
It's very obvious from your responses that you are unable to debate this subject matter without being emotional.
Lastly, you didn't provide the section, NOW DID YOU??? YOU PROVIDED THE ENTIRE US CONSTITUTION. OMG lmao
I remember you.. Nothing has changed.
Insurrection nor revolt require armed conflict, both only require and attempt to usurp the existing government and the suggested OP provides for a PEACEFUL transition to secession.
