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archangel said:
..they have even been found in reconstruction projects on US Naval bases under federal contractors,not to mention in every field from house construction to high tech electronics industries...on and on..industry likes cheap labor in every field...wake up and smell the coffee! :spank3:

Illegals at power plant prompt call for legislation

By Stephen Dinan
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Illegal aliens using false Social Security numbers were able to enter and work as contract painters at a power plant in Florida, including work near one nuclear reactor.
Officials at Progress Energy, which runs the Crystal River Energy Complex in Citrus County, say they followed federal regulations and that the contractor should have better vetted its employees.
Now a congresswoman is calling for hearings on how the lapse could have happened and calling for the Senate to pass a bill cracking down on illegal aliens' ability to obtain government identification.
"We certainly don't want to have one illegal alien at a nuclear power plant, let alone several," said Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, Florida Republican. "According to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Progress Energy did absolutely nothing wrong. They followed the guidelines. But in today's world, the terrorists are just itching to get at us. We need to have more assurances than just pass to the contractor that's been hired."
She said the incident illustrated the need for the Senate to pass the REAL ID act, which passed the House in February and sets national standards for the use of driver's licenses in federal facilities -- an incentive for states to make sure applicants are in the country legally.
Progress Energy said at least two workers used identification with false Social Security numbers to enter the facility as part of their contract job, and officials at the Florida Gulf Coast Building and Construction Trades Council said the number could be as high as seven.
The individuals worked for Brock Specialty Services, a Texas-based company that was hired to do maintenance at the facility.
Progress Energy spokesman Rick Kimble said the energy company followed the NRC's guidelines. "Point blank, it should not have happened. We obviously should be taking steps in the future to make sure it does not happen," he said. "But we followed the regulations that were required. We also think the contractor had an obligation to do pre-screening as well."
Brock officials couldn't be reached for comment.
Mr. Kimble said the NRC requires that persons admitted to power plants have valid government-issued identification, which these workers had. He said the men provided Social Security numbers to be matched against law-enforcement databases, but the false numbers the workers gave didn't raise any red flags.
He said the plant has four fossil fuel units and one reactor. He said just one person who submitted a false Social Security number had access to the nuclear unit, and he, like any other visitor, had a constant escort.
The building and construction union first raised the issue as part of a complaint about contractors at the power company. Michael J. Jeske, secretary-treasurer for the union, said no matter how the workers managed to gain access, something was broken.
"That doesn't give the local community a very good feeling, if you have a situation where undocumented foreigners can get access to a nuclear power plant and that doesn't violate anything," he said.
 
Oh well, I guess because they are in country illegally they are up to no good automatically. How about we find out if they are doing a good or excellent job, get a security check on them then get them through the citizenship process them, or should we just boot their ass for the hell of it?

This is scapegoating at its finest.
 
OCA said:
Oh well, I guess because they are in country illegally they are up to no good automatically. How about we find out if they are doing a good or excellent job, get a security check on them then get them through the citizenship process them, or should we just boot their ass for the hell of it?

This is scapegoating at its finest.

Not at all. You made a statement that they weren't doing jobs like that - I remembered an article that showed they did.

I actually have no problem with illegals in the country. They do a lot of jobs that other people won't touch.

I do have a problem with them receiving welfare, etc.
 
OCA said:
Oh well, I guess because they are in country illegally they are up to no good automatically. How about we find out if they are doing a good or excellent job, get a security check on them then get them through the citizenship process them, or should we just boot their ass for the hell of it?

This is scapegoating at its finest.
we should boot thier ass for being ILLEGAL
 
GotZoom said:
Not at all. You made a statement that they weren't doing jobs like that - I remembered an article that showed they did.

I actually have no problem with illegals in the country. They do a lot of jobs that other people won't touch.

I do have a problem with them receiving welfare, etc.

I have a problem with ANYBODY recieving welfare, illegal or legal, native or non-native.
 
OCA said:
I have a problem with ANYBODY recieving welfare, illegal or legal, native or non-native.
Well then lets stop it by getting rid of the people who are here illegally first.
then move on to the rest.
 
gop_jeff said:
Actually, he (and I) support upholding the LAW.

Well i'm not saying the law is wrong, but I am saying that there is no viable way to now enforce the immigration law now that these people have been here for a time and become to a large degree productive citizens.

The only way, and I understand that its tough to admit it, is for amnesty to happen, otherwise this problem will only continue and actually get worse. Sorry but thats reality.
 
dilloduck said:
Well then lets stop it by getting rid of the people who are here illegally first.
then move on to the rest.

Who is more of a problem Dillo? The native fatfuck who sits on his ass here and recieves all sorts of government subsidies but puts very little back into the economy or the illegal(by and large despite the myths most illegals don't recieve subsidies) who works 2-3 shitty jobs and puts some of his money back into the local economy.
 
OCA said:
Oh well, I guess because they are in country illegally they are up to no good automatically. How about we find out if they are doing a good or excellent job, get a security check on them then get them through the citizenship process them, or should we just boot their ass for the hell of it?

This is scapegoating at its finest.

Excuse me...If one commits a felony by entering another countries space illegally then according to you why should we think they are up to no good automatically...humm..you just answered your own question..one cannot pass a security check when one has already violated the law...boot em I say and maybe the ilk of you too! :bsflag:
 
OCA said:
Well i'm not saying the law is wrong, but I am saying that there is no viable way to now enforce the immigration law now that these people have been here for a time and become to a large degree productive citizens.

The only way, and I understand that its tough to admit it, is for amnesty to happen, otherwise this problem will only continue and actually get worse. Sorry but thats reality.
Sounds like communism---if you productive to society you can stay no matter what else you have done.

"hey--that dude killed somebody !"

"It's ok--he's a fine Dr."
 
dilloduck said:
Sounds like communism---if you productive to society you can stay no matter what else you have done.

"hey--that dude killed somebody !"

"It's ok--he's a fine Dr."

A little over the top don't ya think there Dillo?
 
archangel said:
Excuse me...If one commits a felony by entering another countries space illegally then according to you why should we think they are up to no good automatically...humm..you just answered your own question..one cannot pass a security check when one has already violated the law...boot em I say and maybe the ilk of you too! :bsflag:

Nope, you made no sense. Entering a country illegally to seek out a better life should be classified as a felony? I say change the law temporarily, AMNESTY NOW!

If we boot em you gonna take over for them? What should we tell the businesses that will fail because of this? Tough shit?
 
OCA said:
Well i'm not saying the law is wrong, but I am saying that there is no viable way to now enforce the immigration law now that these people have been here for a time and become to a large degree productive citizens.

The only way, and I understand that its tough to admit it, is for amnesty to happen, otherwise this problem will only continue and actually get worse. Sorry but thats reality.

I disagree. Here's my three-step plan to solve immigration.

1. Secure the borders to keep more illegals from coming in. This means more border patrol agents, more patrols in general, etc.

2. Fine any company, corporation, or individual who employs an illegal immigrant $50K each. Deport those illegals.

3. Continue to deport other illegals as they are arrested for other crimes, etc. etc.

Step one will destroy the supply of illegals. Step two will destroy the demand for the US to want illegals. Steps two & three will destroy the demand for illegals to want to come to America.
 
gop_jeff said:
I disagree. Here's my three-step plan to solve immigration.

1. Secure the borders to keep more illegals from coming in. This means more border patrol agents, more patrols in general, etc.

2. Fine any company, corporation, or individual who employs an illegal immigrant $50K each. Deport those illegals.

3. Continue to deport other illegals as they are arrested for other crimes, etc. etc.

Step one will destroy the supply of illegals. Step two will destroy the demand for the US to want illegals. Steps two & three will destroy the demand for illegals to want to come to America.

What about the businesses that depend on this cheap labor? And yes its true, no Americans I know are going to lay drywall 12-14 hrs a day for 10.00/hr, go ahead take a survey on that.

Step 2 will hurt economies and is not doable.
 
OCA said:
I'm waiting for the point.
the point is that there are a lot of folks who are waiting in line to get to America for years. Why should the wet backs of any race be forgiven? Because they will clean toilets? What kind of precendent is that--the very first thing they do when they come here is illegal.
 
OCA said:
What about the businesses that depend on this cheap labor?

The business will close. The owner and employees will have to find another job. Other businesses will end up closing and more and more people will be out of work.

They will be forced to stand in unemployment lines. Our taxes will rise because more people are unemployed.

But look on the bright side, at least they can compete with "their own" instead of those mexicans for the minimum wage jobs that are available.

Bad idea.
 
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