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Typically petitions are searched for duplicate signatures and phoney names. This has been the rule for millions of years or perhaps at least 75 years.
The greatest source of voter fraud comes in the form of RINO dominated republicans.
then why was it the Democrats who were against searching the recall petitions for duplicate signatures and phoney names?
I'm from North Eastern Illinois and I can tell you that the majority of signatures aren't even valid..
If you look at the point of the recall, you would realize that the left had a bigger hurdle to jump than prompting the recall election.
Like winning the recall, for example. Without an incident of public corruption, policies that fundementally disrupts society or suppression of valued rights(yep, I know. The "disregard of citizens right to collective bargain" is being usurped. But the left forgets that it is running up against our natural politics, the "right to survive" in terms of state finances. The left has to present another idea that balance the state budget in order to preserve collective bargaining. They have not.) The left cannot hope to win anyway.
At best, they can only use up capital with the electorate to make a political statement. Not good politics, if you ask me.
You know good and well that this was not about the budget, it was about beating back the union.
Tell that to the average Wisconsin tax payer who was looking at a 3 billion dollar deficit when Walker took office and a balanced budget two years later. The public sector unions in Wisconsin NEEDED to be beaten back because they were bleeding the State dry. Walker did just that. The recall effort is sputtering because there are only so many union people and far left liberals and they've already signed (from some reports...several times!) so now they've got to get signatures from the OTHER folks in Wisconsin. Good luck on that and even better luck trying to convince the electorate in Wisconsin that they'd be better off going back to the same people who put them 3 billion in debt in the first place.
I'm from North Eastern Illinois and I can tell you that the majority of signatures aren't even valid..
I'm from there, too, and I can tell you there's no way I or Mr. Wingnut quoted above can make that call.
Do you remember how it was suddenly reintroduced as a standalone bill and voted on with no debate? It had nothing to do with the budget, he had concessions from the union equal to what he was on record as wanting to save in that area and went ahead anyway.
you mean once he was elected governor and was able to review the state financials, recieve advice from his economic team, review all options and decided on what needed to be done......which was a slight devciation freom his original intention...but that was becuase he was not afforded the knowledge of the true financial crisis they were facing....
He opted to not have a debate as it was only going to get ugly and go nowhere. And as you saw...the democrats had no interest themselves in anything but having it THEUIR way....as was seen when they ran from the law.
and look at how jarhead dances around the fact that the bill was not passed as a budget and had no numbers in it because it was all about stripping union rights. If it was a budget bill and had anything to do with number then they couldn;t have voted on it without a quorum.
It had NOTHING to do with the budget and the fact that they took the budget portions out of the bill and passed a stand alone version of the union stripping parts of the bill shows that it had nothing to do with the budget.
if it had been a Democratic governor, and the Republican ran away to avoid doing their jobs, you can bet everything you own the Dems on here would have pitched a fit.
if it had been a Democratic governor, and the Republican ran away to avoid doing their jobs, you can bet everything you own the repubs on here would have cheered them on.
WOW! that was fun. LOL
Those seats should have been considered vacated and elections should have been held to fill them.
you mean once he was elected governor and was able to review the state financials, recieve advice from his economic team, review all options and decided on what needed to be done......which was a slight devciation freom his original intention...but that was becuase he was not afforded the knowledge of the true financial crisis they were facing....
He opted to not have a debate as it was only going to get ugly and go nowhere. And as you saw...the democrats had no interest themselves in anything but having it THEUIR way....as was seen when they ran from the law.
if it had been a Democratic governor, and the Republican ran away to avoid doing their jobs, you can bet everything you own the Dems on here would have pitched a fit.
if it had been a Democratic governor, and the Republican ran away to avoid doing their jobs, you can bet everything you own the repubs on here would have cheered them on.
WOW! that was fun. LOL
You know good and well that this was not about the budget, it was about beating back the union.
Tell that to the average Wisconsin tax payer who was looking at a 3 billion dollar deficit when Walker took office and a balanced budget two years later. The public sector unions in Wisconsin NEEDED to be beaten back because they were bleeding the State dry. Walker did just that. The recall effort is sputtering because there are only so many union people and far left liberals and they've already signed (from some reports...several times!) so now they've got to get signatures from the OTHER folks in Wisconsin. Good luck on that and even better luck trying to convince the electorate in Wisconsin that they'd be better off going back to the same people who put them 3 billion in debt in the first place.
Thanks for the hyperbole and hyperpartisan rhetoric. However, according to an article on foxnews the budget was only GOING to be 137 million in the hole AFTER walker slashed taxes and cut projected revenues right after getting into office. So if you got that wrong what else did you get wrong?
I'm from there, too, and I can tell you there's no way I or Mr. Wingnut quoted above can make that call.
Yeah??
They were in Zion the other day having anyone and anyone sign their petition...
Too bad they had to use the court system.
Would have been nice if Walker opposers would have simply admitted to the fake signatures, deleted them, and moved on.
The right didn't have to use the court system anymore than they had to run phony dems during the previous group of recalls.
They made a choice to draw out the process and make it take longer so they have more time to pass all the legislation that they want to pass before walker even has to face the recall vote.
Besides that there is already a process to vet the signatures but walker and this judge want the state Government Accountability Board to be "more aggressive" in vetting the signatures. It's pure politics on walkers part but it's no suprise that you would blame those trying to recall him. LOL
duh
Most signatures won't be accepted as valid.
Like I said in a previous post they were in fucking Illinois collecting signatures..
In typical fashion democrats are fucking cheats and liars - and those signatures from Illinois and all the other false sigs will account for at minimum 30% of their petition.
I personally saw those motherfuckers asking Illinois residents to sign their petition and I saw a couple that did and they had no idea what the fuck was going on...
They said "do you support unions, if you do sign this."
They should be in fucking jail for spewing across the border...
Like I said in a previous post - I told them to get the fuck back to Wisconsin...
That shit pissed me off. The dishonesty and the circumvention of democracy.
But HOW will this kind of thing be detected?
Mickey Mouse is easy to throw out. But what about made up people at made up addresses? Or people at real addresses.
I hope that whoever was in Zion was too dumb to get convincing addresses but ????
Very frustrating.
I don't know....
I suppose one could scribble anything...
Zion is mostly a ghetto and the majority of their residents are on welfare and those folks will do anything they're told to do.
I have absolutely no idea how Wisconsin will validate those signatures of Wisconsin residents...
you mean once he was elected governor and was able to review the state financials, recieve advice from his economic team, review all options and decided on what needed to be done......which was a slight devciation freom his original intention...but that was becuase he was not afforded the knowledge of the true financial crisis they were facing....
He opted to not have a debate as it was only going to get ugly and go nowhere. And as you saw...the democrats had no interest themselves in anything but having it THEUIR way....as was seen when they ran from the law.
and look at how jarhead dances around the fact that the bill was not passed as a budget and had no numbers in it because it was all about stripping union rights. If it was a budget bill and had anything to do with number then they couldn;t have voted on it without a quorum.
It had NOTHING to do with the budget and the fact that they took the budget portions out of the bill and passed a stand alone version of the union stripping parts of the bill shows that it had nothing to do with the budget.
Your post shows you don't know how Wisconsin unions have exerted pressure on municipal budgets.
Just because there were no direct dollar figures involved in that part of the legislation doesn't mean it had nothing to do with budgets.
The monetary part of Walker's proposals were going to involve significant cuts in municipal budgets. In order to work with less money, the cities and counties needed greater latitude to make tough decisions.
I'm from there, too, and I can tell you there's no way I or Mr. Wingnut quoted above can make that call.
Yeah??
They were in Zion the other day having anyone and anyone sign their petition...
Not gonna call you a liar, but I'm not gonna take your word for it, either. If it is true, it would be a drop in the bucket and not a basis for saying that the majority of sigs are false.
I'm from there, too, and I can tell you there's no way I or Mr. Wingnut quoted above can make that call.
Yeah??
They were in Zion the other day having anyone and anyone sign their petition...
Not gonna call you a liar, but I'm not gonna take your word for it, either. If it is true, it would be a drop in the bucket and not a basis for saying that the majority of sigs are false.
if it had been a Democratic governor, and the Republican ran away to avoid doing their jobs, you can bet everything you own the Dems on here would have pitched a fit.
if it had been a Democratic governor, and the Republican ran away to avoid doing their jobs, you can bet everything you own the repubs on here would have cheered them on.
WOW! that was fun. LOL
Funny thing is Republicans never do run away to avoid doing their jobs. It's only ever the Democrats that do.
Why do you think that is?
